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UK and USA both allied with Japan against China at the beginning of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Japan bought oil from UK and USA to fuel its invasion of China. China fought the three great powers -- Japan, USA and UK -- to a stalemate, despite being in the middle of a civil war. Then Japan got frustrated and backstabbed its ally UK by taking over the oil fields of SE Asia itself, leading USA to cut oil too, leading Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. And the rest is history.
 
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UK and USA both allied with Japan against China at the beginning of the Second Sino-Japanese War. Japan bought oil from UK and USA to fuel its invasion of China. China fought the three great powers -- Japan, USA and UK -- to a stalemate, despite being in the middle of a civil war. Then Japan got frustrated and backstabbed its ally UK by taking over the oil fields of SE Asia itself, leading USA to cut oil too, leading Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. And the rest is history.
what kind of stup!t tree did fall into on way down from sky. your history chart is was beyond the chart of history, ufff what idiots.
 
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More conjecture and what-if scenarios. Imaginary history fun for you? Read up on real history and see what happened to the Europeans in China without fighting a war.

Quite disappointed in your points. Weak, unsupported, and does not address the point at hand. I feel like I'm arguing with the mentally challenged who can't hold 3 seconds of coherent thought together (by the way, and I mean this seriously. no offense if you're really mentally challenged. Just let me know and I will stop picking on you).
Saying that Imperial Japan at her peak can only conquer 1/3 of China is like saying Nazi Germany at her peak can only conquer Europe but not Russia.

So who is the real mentally challenged now? And I meant that question seriously, no offense.
 
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Saying that Imperial Japan at her peak can only conquer 1/3 of China is like saying Nazi Germany at her peak can only conquer Europe but not Russia.

Oooookaaay. Lets try this again. What does this statement have to do with my original point again? Care to explain your logic to the audience here?
 
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Saying that Imperial Japan at her peak can only conquer 1/3 of China is like saying Nazi Germany at her peak can only conquer Europe but not Russia.

So who is the real mentally challenged now? And I meant that question seriously, no offense.

for the record, china at the time was in one of its weakest periods and that is the only time that japan could even makes any progess in attacking china. europe however was different, britain and france was not at their weakest, Germans were just really good at war.
 
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for the record, china at the time was in one of its weakest periods and that is the only time that japan could even makes any progess in attacking china. europe however was different, britain and france was not at their weakest, Germans were just really good at war.
Bad argument, just like the other guy's.

To say 'strongest' or 'weakest' implies there is a standard of military strength that is independent of comparison. No such standard. Imperial Japan was 'stronger' than China but 'weaker' than the US. China was 'weaker' than Imperial Japan but certainly was 'stronger' than other smaller Asian neighbors. It is only when there is a group that the superlative '-est' is applicable because the group itself set that standard. For example, inside NATO, the US is the 'strongest' but outside NATO, the once Soviet Union can claim that '-est' superlative in many ways over the US.

So the criticism against Imperial Japan that at the highest peak, whatever that peak is, the Japanese can conquer only 1/3 of mainland China is silly. We do not know how much higher/further the Japanese could have gone IF there was no WW II because only the conflict against a 'stronger' power -- the US -- did it strained the Japanese to their limits and eventually they collapsed. It is a failed criticism in trying to salvage some face for China.
 
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China has no heart, has nothing but big mouth and ready to bully smaller size nation like Phillippine, Vietnam. Meanwhile Japan is a very good and brave fighter-nation.

After WWII, US is so scared of Japanese that US by all means, don't let Japan to develop its war capablility, war service industry had to transfer to civil service industry like Mitsubishi. At the moment, with agressive rise ( not peaceful rise at all ) of China, US will free Japan, let her develop the war capability at her will. Then we will see how dangerous Japan is. China will be conquered again if it engage with Japan...

Vietnam fight well just only at her homeland, a fight to protect homeland, Vietnam will win finally. Japan is different, Japan fight very well to conquer Chinese. Wait and see.
 
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China has no heart, has nothing but big mouth and ready to bully smaller size nation like Phillippine, Vietnam. Meanwhile Japan is a very good and brave fighter-nation.

After WWII, US is so scared of Japanese that US by all means, don't let Japan to develop its war capablility, war service industry had to transfer to civil service industry like Mitsubishi. At the moment, with agressive rise ( not peaceful rise at all ) of China, US will free Japan, let her develop the war capability at her will. Then we will see how dangerous Japan is. China will be conquered again if it engage with Japan...

Vietnam fight well just only at her homeland, a fight to protect homeland, Vietnam will win finally. Japan is different, Japan fight very well to conquer Chinese. Wait and see.

Go for it Japan! :lol:

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China has no heart, has nothing but big mouth and ready to bully smaller size nation like Phillippine, Vietnam. Meanwhile Japan is a very good and brave fighter-nation.

After WWII, US is so scared of Japanese that US by all means, don't let Japan to develop its war capablility, war service industry had to transfer to civil service industry like Mitsubishi. At the moment, with agressive rise ( not peaceful rise at all ) of China, US will free Japan, let her develop the war capability at her will. Then we will see how dangerous Japan is. China will be conquered again if it engage with Japan...

Vietnam fight well just only at her homeland, a fight to protect homeland, Vietnam will win finally. Japan is different, Japan fight very well to conquer Chinese. Wait and see.
Yes, Japan is very good. Japan knew the right way to deal with Vietnamese ;)

The Straits Times (Singapore)
August 21, 2008

THE Socialist Republic of Vietnam declared its independence on Sept 2, 1945. The declaration came at the tail end of a famine which began in 1944. The famine still haunts the consciousness of many who were alive then.

An estimated two million Vietnamese, or 10 per cent of the population then, died during the famine. By comparison, three million Vietnamese were killed during the Second Indochina War, from 1954 to 1975.

The causes of the famine are hardly in dispute. In 1940, the Japanese army occupied Vietnam but left Vichy France in charge of its administration. By the terms of the May 1941 Franco-Japanese treaty, French Indochina had to supply grains to Japan. From 1941 to 1944, Vietnam supplied 700,000 to 1.3 million tonnes of padi and maize to Japan, roughly equivalent to 50 to 80 per cent of its grain production. And a fairly significant acreage was forced into the production of jute, hemp, cotton and castor-oil plants - also for Japan - thus reducing food production. The wartime destruction of roads and other transport infrastructure made it difficult to transport excess food from southern Vietnam to the north. What ensued was tantamount to genocide.

Many victims walked long distances to provincial capitals, and thousands marched on the capital, Hanoi. Survivors resident there then tell of long lines of ghost-like figures trooping into the city. Hanoi families often found corpses in front of their homes. Huge pits were dug in rural areas near Hanoi for mass burials. The wages paid to burial workers went down by the day, and in Hanoi people were soon burying bodies just for a bowl of gruel. The dead in rural areas were left in the open to rot because people did not have the strength to bury them.

Extreme conditions drove many people to extreme behaviour. The vomit of one became the food of another. People followed horses and oxen to eat the dung or to search for the occasional undigested pieces of food in the dung. Food in the mouth was not necessarily secure, because there were frequent fights to force food out of mouths. People stole, robbed and killed for food.

One family that made cakes for sale reports how it made cakes from earth to guard against theft. Customers would pay for the earth cakes and redeem them for real ones later elsewhere.

There are stories of how infants were eaten up by hungry dogs. Parents would leave their children at home to go look for food, only to find blood and bones in cribs when they returned.
 
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