SOUTH AFRICA

[mike2000]

u know abit about safrican history

You are from Zambia bro?

 

[mike2000]

Good to see a thread on subsahara Africa on here, Since we dont have any/hear much about the region on here(and in the world as well). However, will be good if we can have more news about not just southern/East Africa, but also Central Africa(french speaking) since it seems to be a region everybody ignores/doesnt talk about at all, maybe its because its the poorest/most backward/least intergrated region in Africa(much like South Asia in Asia). Hopefully we can have more threads about these regions on here. Maybe i should start one.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

@PlanetWarrior what about the "white flight"?

White flight or chicken run is a fallacy. They move to Oz or the USA or UK but return to South Africa. Home after all, is where the heart lies

 

[PlanetWarrior]

But DA is not offspring of the National party,while the ANC cooperate with the national party in west cape some times,and in a healthy democracy,one party in power too long is not a good thing

DA absorbed the majority of the National Party and the ANC absorbed the rest. The ANC is still regarded as the liberators by the older generation Blacks, similar to the Congress Party of India. The younger generation Black voters however are looking at alternatives and the DA seems to be the party which is capitalizing the most from this. I wouldn't be surprised if South Africa gets a White President within the next 15 years.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

can you share link to your zimbabwe thread ?

Zimbabwe

Here you go

 

[XenoEnsi-14]

Whities, darkies and brownies? Really........ Anyways I have fallen in love with San Bushwomen.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

You are from Zambia bro?

He is South African.

 

[al-Hasani]

@PlanetWarrior

Great thread. This time you did not try to "fool" anyone as when you made your thread about Zimbabwe if you recall.

Can you make a similar thread about Namibia, Kenya or Tanzania? Those are the Sub-Saharan African countries that I would like to visit the most together with South Africa.

Especially experiencing a safari trip which I am yet to experience.

Or visiting the beautiful Swahili coastline which has Arab traces on every street corner almost.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

@PlanetWarrior

Great thread. This time you did not try to "fool" anyone as when you made your thread about Zimbabwe if you recall.

Can you make a similar thread about Namibia, Kenya or Tanzania? Those are the Sub-Saharan African countries that I would like to visit the most together with South Africa.

Especially experiencing a safari trip which I am yet to experience.

Or visiting the beautiful Swahili coastline which has Arab traces on every street corner almost.

Thanks and will do bro. The history of southern Africa is rich and you will find traces of many visitors from the past including Indians and Arabs. Sadly, these visitors who came to trade embedded a culture of trust and respect for visitors amongst the local Blacks. Hence they were totally offguard when the European colonialists came knocking at their doors

 

[al-Hasani]

Thanks and will do bro. The history of southern Africa is rich and you will find traces of many visitors from the past including Indians and Arabs. Sadly, these visitors who came to trade embedded a culture of trust and respect for visitors amongst the local Blacks. Hence they were totally offguard when the European colonialists came knocking at their doors

It would be really interesting if you got the time to make such threads. I have to admit that my knowledge about Sub-Saharan Africa is somewhat limited compared to other regions of the world. I would love to visit though. The nature and wildlife is stunning there and I assume that the people are really hospitable and warm.

I have recently developed an interest in the Swahili coastline and especially Kenya and Tanzania. Looks like two very breathtaking countries nature and landscape wise. There is also the Arab connection which I find interesting too. Arabs, especially Arabians, traded with that region of Africa for millenniums. Together with Horn of Africa which I find very interesting too.

Indians did too as you wrote.

Indian Ocean trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This trade was much bigger than the Silk Road trade yet it's not as well-known. A shame.

Or this ancient trade route that began almost 3000 years ago and ended 1800 years ago.

Incense Route - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Since you live in Zimbabwe and lived in South Africa then covering Namibia first might be the most logical pick?

 

[PlanetWarrior]

It would be really interesting if you got the time to make such threads. I have to admit that my knowledge about Sub-Saharan Africa is somewhat limited compared to other regions of the world. I would love to visit though. The nature and wildlife is stunning there and I assume that the people are really hospitable and warm.

I have recently developed an interest in the Swahili coastline and especially Kenya and Tanzania. Looks like two very breathtaking countries nature and landscape wise. There is also the Arab connection which I find interesting too. Arabs, especially Arabians, traded with that region of Africa for millenniums. Together with Horn of Africa which I find very interesting too.

Indians did too as you wrote.

Indian Ocean trade - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This trade was much bigger than the Silk Road trade yet it's not as well-known. A shame.

Or this ancient trade route that began almost 3000 years ago and ended 1800 years ago.

Incense Route - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Since you live in Zimbabwe and lived in South Africa then covering Namibia first might be the most logical pick?

Southern Africa is a wildlife heaven and the good part is that you will easily get halal wildlife food served in many restaurants here. Yes, true indeed on your other submissions. And yes, I did live in many parts of Southern Africa including Windhoek in Namibia so I guess a thread on that country would not be difficult

 

[al-Hasani]

Southern Africa is a wildlife heaven and the good part is that you will easily get halal wildlife food served in many restaurants here. Yes, true indeed on your other submissions. And yes, I did live in many parts of Southern Africa including Windhoek in Namibia so I guess a thread on that country would not be difficult

What type of wildlife can be eaten in Southern Africa? Hopefully people do not eat endangered animals like in certain parts of Asia and Africa. That would be a big shame.

Recently I have even thought about living in those parts of Africa and working as an chemical engineer (once I fully graduate) for 1-2 years to see how life is there. For instance in Kenya or Tanzania. Somehow the savanna and the unique African wildlife has always attracted me.

It must be a special place.

Sorry if I am asking too many questions but you must be the right person to be asked those questions on PDF.

Maybe do some humanitarian work too and finally do something meaningful.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

What type of wildlife can be eaten in Southern Africa? Hopefully people do not eat endangered animals like in certain parts of Asia and Africa. That would be a big shame.

Recently I have even thought about living in those parts of Africa and working as an chemical engineer (once I fully graduate) for 1-2 years to see how life is there. For instance in Kenya or Tanzania. Somehow the savanna and the unique African wildlife has always attracted me.

It must be a special place.

Sorry if I am asking too many questions but you must be the right person to be asked those questions on PDF.

Ask away. Nope, in Southern Africa there are many laws which protect endangered species. Poaching remains a problem but that is adequately addressed by the governments here. There are many tasty wildlife dishes such as springbok and many other varieties of buck or crocodile or ostrich meat etc. Kenya and Tanzania are relatively peaceful countries and are undergoing huge development so engineers are needed there. In southern Africa, if you want to spend time in peace and tranquility in a nature reserve, all it means is a half an hour to two hours drive away from the cities

 

[al-Hasani]

Ask away. Nope, in Southern Africa there are many laws which protect endangered species. Poaching remains a problem but that is adequately addressed by the governments here. There are many tasty wildlife dishes such as springbok and many other varieties of buck or crocodile or ostrich meat etc. Kenya and Tanzania are relatively peaceful countries and are undergoing huge development so engineers are needed there. In southern Africa, if you want to spend time in peace and tranquility in a nature reserve, all it means is a half an hour to two hours drive away from the cities

Thank you for the answers bro.

It's good to see that the government is doing something to protect its own unique wildlife.

Is daily life expensive in Southern Africa? I mean South Africa is probably more expensive than nearby Zimbabwe or Mozambique for instance. I am not sure about Namibia but I would believe that the costs of living are similar to those in South Africa. Might be wrong though. Just guessing based on what little I know.

Sounds tasty. Ostrich meat and crocodile meat? Interesting to say the least.

Yes, I have heard about that too. I don't recall any current wars or conflicts in Tanzania or Kenya. I recall that there were some ethnic riots after the presidential election in Kenya years ago but it quickly ended if I remember correctly.
I guess that crime and diseases are a bigger threat if anything. Malaria especially.

What are the rules regarding nature reserves in general in Southern Africa? For instance if I were to visit South Africa can I then just visit such an nature reserve whenever I want to? Is it expensive?

Something like this would be amazing;



Menu National Park, Kenya.

It does not have to be as luxurious as that above.

Safari lodges like that could be great too.



Hell, even a basic tent for a few nights would be great although I doubt that this is allowed to do in the middle of a nature reserve where you got all kind of predators around. Unless you have armed guards with you from the national reserve/park I assume.

Me, my father and one of my older brothers (we are all interested in hunting and wildlife) have talked about going to Africa for such a safari trip but it has never materialized. I hope that it does. My uncle has been on such a safari trip in Kenya with my cousins and they praised it heavily and said that it was a once in a life-time experience.

 

[PlanetWarrior]

Thank you for the answers bro.

It's good to see that the government is doing something to protect its own unique wildlife.

Is daily life expensive in Southern Africa? I mean South Africa is probably more expensive than nearby Zimbabwe or Mozambique for instance. I am not sure about Namibia but I would believe that the costs of living are similar to those in South Africa. Might be wrong though. Just guessing based on what little I know.

Sounds tasty. Ostrich meat and crocodile meat? Interesting to say the least.

Yes, I have heard about that too. I don't recall any current wars or conflicts in Tanzania or Kenya. I recall that there were some ethnic riots after the presidential election in Kenya years ago but it quickly ended if I remember correctly.
I guess that crime and diseases are a bigger threat if anything. Malaria especially.

What are the rules regarding nature reserves in general in Southern Africa? For instance if I were to visit South Africa can I then just visit such an nature reserve whenever I want to? Is it expensive?

Something like this would be amazing;



Menu National Park, Kenya.

It does not have to be as luxurious as that above.

Safari lodges like that could be great too.



Hell, even a basic tent for a few nights would be great although I doubt that this is allowed to do in the middle of a nature reserve where you got all kind of predators around. Unless you have armed guards with you from the national reserve/park I assume.

Me, my father and one of my older brothers (we are all interested in hunting and wildlife) have talked about going to Africa for such a safari trip but it has never materialized. I hope that it does. My uncle has been on such a safari trip in Kenya with my cousins and they praised it heavily and said that it was a once in a life-time experience.

South Africa is a tad more expensive than its neighbors but at least in South Africa the shops or supermarkets are well stocked and there is never a shortage of anything. Unlike its neighbors offcourse and especially Zimbabwe where you may as well buy your bread for a week and freeze it since there is a good chance that the shops will be out of bread or some other commodity such as meat for a month or so

The entire Southern Africa is a wildlife paradise. The Kruger National Park in South Africa is well renowned. Costs for these types of safaris are dependent on the type of accommodation you are seeking and the tour packages which you want. South Africa, Zimbabwe and Namibia unlike Kenya for example, has strict regulations on hunting and you would require both a permit and a arms license before you are allowed to hunt. Overall, the costs of these packages are rather reasonable. There are plenty of experienced and skilled guards at the reserves and it is extremely seldom that you would hear of an incident of an attack on a tourist by any predator. Not to say that it doesn't happen though. The last attack I heard off was that of a Chinese tourist at the Kruger National Park who got off his tour vehicle to pet a lion. Unfortunately he didn't understand English and disregarded the tour operator's pleas to him to return to the vehicle. Sadly, the lion had Chinese food that day and that was reported widely in the media in Southern Africa.