Soon Nepal will come under the care of China!

[Gen Padmanabhan]

Yeah the usual last mundane line when run out of counter argument.. Happens here quite often.. You're not an exception.. Then again as one of the few sensible mature Indian posters here mentioned quite often.. Majority of you'll are ignorant collage kids with the first taste of nationalism

I am not running, but there is no point to build an argument who know nothing about this topic.

Waste of brain & time, instead have fun with this guy.

 

[Gibbs]

I am not running, but there is no point to build an argument who know nothing about this topic.

Waste of brain & time, instead have fun with this guy.

On the contrary i know way much more than may be you can handle.. Hence your one liner rebuff.. Quite typical of over jingoistic kids these days on defense forums who tries to bite way more than you can chew

So actually it's my waste of time.. G'day

 

[Rangila]

Problem about to be solved:

Nepalese parties agree to advance Constitution amendment bill

 

[Gibbs]

1. Every Country is an artificial construct so your point about India being an artificial nation is irrelevant at best and disingenuous otherwise.

The only example of nation created by colonialism to the extent of India would be sub Saharan Africa, Where artificial boundaries were drawn, To the extent of numerous countries that came in to existence.. Anyway the point being It was relevant in context to my argument

India has no need to be a subordinate power

But it proved other wise in the post colonial history of the republic of India to the present day

If one cares to take a comprehensive view of India Foreign Policy one would be surprised to note that India and China are collaborating on great many fronts against West on the substantial matters which would decide the future - they are not just glamorous enough to be commented on in popular media.

That is common in any bilateral or multi lateral relationships in the 21st century, Sino/US, US/Iran and Sino/Japan are even better examples of that.. Not just in regards to India.. IT's a uni polar world

Indian sovereignty is sacrosanct and inviolate

So is every other nations how big or small or the size of population

 

[Jacob Martin]

Nations born of religion and ethnicity never get along.

Then aren't we glad that Pakistan was not born of religion?

 

[Spectre]

he only example of nation created by colonialism to the extent of India would be sub Saharan Africa, Where artificial boundaries were drawn, To the extent of numerous countries that came in to existence.. Anyway the point being It was relevant in context to my argument

You are wrong here, USA was a product of colonialism so was Oceania. Boundaries in Europe were forged by wars conducted by Monarchs. I can go on and on to point out all boundaries are imposed. Nation State theory is quite explicit about this and the causes for rise of Nationalism. If you want we can debate this elsewhere.

But it proved other wise in the post colonial history of the republic of India to the present day

No it has not. We made allies based on interest - you cannot term the transactional nature of relationship as the subordinate one.

That is common in any bilateral or multi lateral relationships in the 21st century, Sino/US, US/Iran and Sino/Japan are even better examples of that.. Not just in regards to India.. IT's a uni polar world

So is every other nations how big or small or the size of population

Agreed, India is not special in this regards however in this Uni Polar world some nations are more free and equal than others. Just to point out Syria has lot less control over it's fate than lets say Sri Lanka. It might be due to combination of many factors - Defense, Economy, Geography, Allies etc.

 

[Eminent Mainstream Media]

Never compared the two.. Just reminded you of realities, Sovereignty cannot be measured by the size of the population or geographical size

India has always been and will be a subordinate state for the foreseeable future.. It's an artificial nation created by the colonists.. India never had 2 million troops that won the WWII it was 2 million British subjects of British India that participated under the Union Jack that fought for HM the Queen


Again in real politik India was and will be a subordinate country for the global powers.. During the cold war to Russia in an failed attempt by Nehru and Indira Gandhi to distance it self from it's colonial legacy and now to the West specifically to the US to be used asa regional counter weight to China, It's true competitor

Yes you did compare-

Yes Sovereignty will be measured by the size of population and geographical size- It would be joke to consider Russian empire a subordinate to say Srilanka- Its too big a country to be subordinate-

Same is the case with India- It cannot be subordinate- India has been there since beginning of History- from where do you think names such as Indian Ocean, West Indies, East Indies came ?


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Indian_Army

It was 2.5million by WW2- A look at the regiments will give you an idea of the number which was from current day India-

India have had an independent foreign policy irrespective of Its association with any country- India opposed USSR when It Invaded Afghanistan- and Opposed US whenever It needed to- just until recently there was US sanctions on us- China is a natural competitor which have surged ahead thanks to its policies and implementation-

Let me give you a better idea- you would never find any Indian saying we have US/Russia/China to save us from some big tough macho neighbor bullying us- But I can give you a number of internet Srilankans and Nepalis saying that- Even a large country like Pakistan has its ministers boasting about China- on the contrary there as Nations like Iran which we respect as It didn't bulge down- and never tows the line- Countries like India set the line-

I'm afraid you have no right to talk for me.. You know nothing about me.. You're just another faceless entity in a online forum

I have traveled to Nepal and to India a multitude of times.. Still have exchanges with few Nepali friends and colleagues i keep in touch with.. And it's not a pretty picture they're opinion about Indian role in the recent developments

So I guess it's you who need a dose of reality and try get get some real information from the people other than gutter journalism that is called India media these days

Which Places did you visit in Nepal and India-

 

[Levina]

Time to fence Nepal border and send millions of Nepalis back

True.
It's high time India stopped being liberal to Nepalese despite their bonhomie with Chinese.
After the Tarai region issue India should once and for all seal its borders.

 

[T-123456]

True.
It's high time India stopped being liberal to Nepalese despite their bonhomie with Chinese.
After the Tarai region issue India should once and for all seal its borders.

Teach,help me out cause i dont get it
''Nepal under the care of China'',is Nepal sick or something?

 

[Gen Padmanabhan]

On the contrary i know way much more than may be you can handle.. Hence your one liner rebuff.. Quite typical of over jingoistic kids these days on defense forums who tries to bite way more than you can chew

So actually it's my waste of time.. G'day

Maybe you already wasting your time on a forum like me. These days there are alot of self obsessed people, Isnt it?

BTW, there is nothing to chew here. Lolz.

 

[Islah]

i dont think so

 

[Jaanbaz]

Nepal to be the next pakistan?

Better then being the next India.

 

[Levina]

Teach,help me out cause i dont get it
''Nepal under the care of China'',is Nepal sick or something?

Recently I was talking to a Nepalese friend of mine, who told me that India has lost its grip over Nepal.
Let me tell you, India and Nepal signed a few special treaties back in 1950's which gave Nepalese people same economic and educational rights as Indians within India. Nepalese can hold government posts in India while the same is not applicable to Indians in Nepal. They do not need passports and visas to enter India.
That's the kind of freedom Nepalese enjoyed in India. But today India stands betrayed by Nepal.
We must seal our borders before we face security threats from our Himalayan neighbour.

Reality check - India will be building the biggest ever Hydroelectric power station for Nepal, which, China was trying hard to get. India will be drawing 83% of energy from that.

No matter what one says or does, the ground realities, the geographies cannot be ignored. Nepal has easy access to India through the plains, while with China, it is through mountain passes.

Nepal also has a special status. Nepalese citizens can work in India without having the need to acquire Work Permits. Lots of Nepalese students/working professionals are in India.

Nepalese now favour China over India.
This is a fact!!

 

[Maira La]

That's the kind of freedom Nepalese enjoyed in India. But today India stands betrayed by Nepal.
We must seal our borders before we face security threats from our Himalayan neighbour.

It's actually the other way around. Nepal stands betrayed, because the Indian right-wing, led by Narendra vai, want to see an independent state carved out of Nepal's Terai plains for the separatist Madhesi people!

 

[Levina]

It's actually the other way around. Nepal stands betrayed, because the Indian right-wing, led by Narendra vai, want to see an independent state carved out of Nepal's Terai plains for the separatist Madhesi people!

The demand for a separate state was put forward by madhesi leaders and not madhesi people.
But yes Madhesi people feel betrayed that they have not been allocated proper country resources despite the fact that Madhesh has sizeable portion of country's resources.