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Yes, provided it can be at least duo-packed into an 8-cell vls. I'm not sure it would be possible to shoehorn more than 2 of the Chinese 8-cell launchers into the F22P/C28A design. Quadpacked like ESSM, it would be a very viable option esp if it has active (terminal) radar guidance (which eliminates the need for radar illuminators or directors).@Penguin
DK-10 is a SAM based on SD-10A BVRAAM with an added booster motor and TVC. Its quoted range is 50km with VLS work in progress. Would that be a viable option?
I've a question.what kind of "Air Defence" you're expecting an enlarged FAC could provide,retaining enough offensive and defensive capability??limited ASW can be understood,but a decent Air Defence??to house HQ-9 type air defence in VLS module,I think it needs more than a 1000 Ton vessel.
RAM and ESSM > FL3000N and SD-10 or hq16@Penguin
I though he was talking about "Air Defense Ship" having long range SAM,as he mentioned about Brahmos and Su-30,and India uses group of long ranged ASCM.thats why I mentioned HQ-9.what is the chinese equivalent of RIM-116 and RIM-162??
RAM and ESSM > FL3000N and SD-10 or hq9
Could you tell us why PN did not pursue more A-90B submarines, is it because of zardari fiasco Karachi bus bombing that killed french engineer [which my personal thoughts are across the border neighbors did it].
I am not the navy expert , but here is my thought .
Drop everything , start from scratch , we have the capability to build both Ships & Subs , lets start improving that , it may take 10-20 years , but at least we will have a base to stand on , Focus more on subs then on Frigates or destroyers , build a reliable Air defence system for our coastal borders , so PN does not always have to rely on PAF .
For all this to happen we need an investment budget of around $5-6bn (for 5 years , $1bn per year), just for the Navy .
We are not an Island nation therefore it would be virtually impossible to completely cut-off Pakistan from the outside world. Thus the rulers do not fully understand why a strong Navy is needed or what is required to have a strong Navy.
Besides, all of our military heroes such as Salahuddin, Taimur, Babur, Ghaznavi, Ghauri, Mehmet-II the conquerer of Constantinople relied primarily on their army. Even the Air force is in effect an extension of the army. What started with the use of hot air balloons, primarily for the purpose of gathering info about enemies troop deployment in 1794 during the battle of Fleurus; turned into bombing from air; during WWI with fighter deployed to protect the bombers.
Navy is also the most expensive arm of the services. Cost of the building and maintaining a single modern vessel could possibly equip the entire army of a small nation. For example a modern tank such as M-1 Abrams, Leopord-2 or Soviet T-95 cost about $4 to 6-million each. BAE Systems charged Norway & Sweden $200 million for 48 Archer self-propelled 155 systems including ammunition i.e. at unit cost of $4.1-million.
A state of the art 4th generation fighter cost $60 -70 million each with JF-17 costing only $20 -25 million. On the other hand a modern warship such as British Type 26 frigate costs about $600-million. Even a Chinese frigates cost about $200-million each. Besides it is a lot more expensive to maintain & operate a naval ship than an air craft or a tank. You can see that $1-billion per year spent on Army or Air force or would get a lot more bang for your buck. Therefore in cash strapped nation such as Pakistan, when military planners look at resource allocation; Navy always comes last.
This is not denying the importance of a credible naval deterrence; however it is unlikely that Pakistan would have sufficient funds to allocate $1-billion per year for buying naval hardware anytime in the foreseeable future. Pak Navy therefore has to make up the numbers with surplus vessels from the US or Britain.
Young man.Hey dick-for-brains, do kisses work against blockades?
My man India is a big country with different requirements.Get and Make More corvettes (500 tons-1500 ton). They are the real backbone of Indian Navy,and will certainly work for Pakistan too,IMO.
Niaz Bhai what would you say about the use of midget submarines ? In that they may not have the endurance nor would they be able to carry a whole lot of ammunition but were they to be mass-produced (say the PN having 50 of these) with each of them carrying 1-2 torpedoes needed to take out or severely cripple a Frigate sized ship - Wouldn't we have a credible deterrence in terms of keeping the Indian Navy far....far away from our coast ?
@Rashid Mahmood - What are your thoughts, sir ?
domestic project will be cheaper then buying ready made foreign weapons. Today for tomorrow we will have to make our stuff so why not today?
Your over dependence on Chinese and American equipment, which you have taken for granted, has killed off your indigenous industry. But its never too late to start.Why not take the trouble to make yr own ships like indians. Why always bank on China and America for weapons?
Not for buying , but for Research & Development , so after 10 years we could stand on our own feet & dont have to look around for buying weapons that we should already have be producing .This is not denying the importance of a credible naval deterrence; however it is unlikely that Pakistan would have sufficient funds to allocate $1-billion per year for buying naval hardware anytime in the foreseeable future. Pak Navy therefore has to make up the numbers with surplus vessels from the US or Britain.