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So what changed about India in 5 years of Modi?

BJP's only USP is that they nationalist/patriotic.....blah..blah..etc. Frankly other than foreign affairs I dont see any other +ve things about the govt. They cant even maintain proper law & order in the country. They say make in India and then buy foreign equipment. They are no different from congress wrt mollycoddling with business houses.

I dont know what makes you think they will get back mallya or choksi. Most of the things that takes place is due process which has already been fixed. The end result is always the same.

Sorry, mate. You have no idea what you are talking about. The defence industry is doing really well, with both imports and domestic orders. Make in India also includes making imported stuff in India by Indian companies.

Law and order has been the same as it always has, which won't change without an overhaul of the state police system. So this has nothing to do with the centre.

All govts the world over mollycoddle businesses. But the Congress was special, they practised crony capitalism, which almost destroyed the economy. BJP has put the squeeze on businesses in fact.

Both the gents you named will be extradited.

As I said if there is a different govt next time then we will know what the previous govt did. Until then it is only a claim.

Lol. That's not how it works. All the scams UPA did were discovered while they were in power, not after BJP came to power. It would be appreciated if you don't make up facts.
 
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Lol Joe, when you become so funny?

I'm sorry but when Indians keep espousing nonsense then you have to call them on their retardedness.

I'm only making this response out of respect for you.

If IK is a military stooge, then why didn't he take the PM position in the early 2000s even Musharraf offered it to him?

Did you even know that Joe?
The military offered him the PM position, but he refused since he did not democratically win it.

Indians further look retarded when you bringing up the fact that he only won a minority government. If the military was so powerful, why didn't they just give him a super majority?

He struggled for 22 years politically to get to where he is.

How many of you internet warriors have even struggled 22 hours?

I'm sorry Joe, but as far as this topic goes, Indians look full on retarded.

PS. Even if he is a stooge, at least we didn't vote in a butcher.

And I thought you had a sense of humour. :(

Sorry, mate. You have no idea what you are talking about. The defence industry is doing really well, with both imports and domestic orders. Make in India also includes making imported stuff in India by Indian companies.

Law and order has been the same as it always has, which won't change without an overhaul of the state police system. So this has nothing to do with the centre.

All govts the world over mollycoddle businesses. But the Congress was special, they practised crony capitalism, which almost destroyed the economy. BJP has put the squeeze on businesses in fact.

Both the gents you named will be extradited.



Lol. That's not how it works. All the scams UPA did were discovered while they were in power, not after BJP came to power. It would be appreciated if you don't make up facts.

Have you been sleeping with Donald Trump?
 
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Would be appreciated if you present a rebuttal.

Easy.

Just turn every statement you made back to front, and upside down.

Never heard a more ridiculous set of bland statements with no fact to back them. It isn't worth a fact-checker's time.

Sorry, my only flaw is my love of country and our PM:angel:

OK, I'll leave those cows alone and look out for some good, wholesome buffalo meat.
 
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Easy.

Just turn every statement you made back to front, and upside down.

Never heard a more ridiculous set of bland statements with no fact to back them. It isn't worth a fact-checker's time.

Yes, so you have no contrary points to present. Figures.
 
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Tell you what: address your whining to @Nilgiri and @Vibrio. They will kiss the bruises and make you feel better. You loser.

I noticed how quickly you disappeared once I mentioned non-BJP ruled Karnataka for the sanitation and electricity programs. :lol:

And I also noticed how the only thing you could do to counter my arguments is by relating me to Donald Trump, like that explains everything.

Personally, I think Modi's going to die in the PM's chair in his 4th term. And it's not like I have any love for the guy, just think he's better than all the scrubs out there.

But what I detest is irrational people who are just all-round intellectually dishonest and just filled with hate. A pretty common trait among ultra-leftists and the biggest threat to the country.

Cheers.
 
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LOL.

You're getting too close to @Nilgiri. "Resistance is futile; you will be absorbed."

One can simply attend (to observe) a commie jirga in Kerala to see why they are repelling more and more to our side over time. Its a vicious cycle, the more they feel threatened by the success of the other, they more they grow desperate and voices shrill and more monotone....little red book style.

Past that... what @Chhatrapati says is not exagerrated (i.e skip the chaiwalla, get to the macroeconomic numbers only).

Fiscally one can look at gross capital formation and investment rates. There is uptick now compared to UPA-II (which was the pure UPA era unlike UPA-I which benefited immensely from previous NDA reforms).

Fiscal deficit is also reigned in now....which is important, because that means more of the current account deficit returns to India as a better capital flow (rather than debt financing instrument for govt).

Then there is the spending ratio of the govt regarding subsidy vs capex. That has markedly improved too (even at cost of few lost state elections).

I don't have to even approach GST, IBC, NPA resolution, DTB etc etc

They have all been good in trimming the macro-flab and setting sight on big data, core assured process and stability/confidence....that was not keeping commensurate pace with the hot money economic expansion of especially UPA-I era.
 
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Sorry, mate. You have no idea what you are talking about. The defence industry is doing really well, with both imports and domestic orders. Make in India also includes making imported stuff in India by Indian companies.
Given that we cannot quantify this in immediate monetary terms I leave it there.
Law and order has been the same as it always has, which won't change without an overhaul of the state police system. So this has nothing to do with the centre.
I know law & order is a state subject. All the BJP ruled states have let hooligans rule roost and even police ppl are not spared let alone civilians. How is BJP ruled states different from mulayum singh/mayawati/lalu's rule? Not to mention we have an absolute idiot as tripura governor.



All govts the world over mollycoddle businesses. But the Congress was special, they practised crony capitalism, which almost destroyed the economy. BJP has put the squeeze on businesses in fact.
there is no difference between congress & bjp when it comes to giving contracts to their favorites. No wonder India becomes laughing stock of the world when brokers like ambani who have no idea about R&D get partnered to manufacture fighter jets.


Lol. That's not how it works. All the scams UPA did were discovered while they were in power, not after BJP came to power. It would be appreciated if you don't make up facts.
Just bcos opposition is incompetent does not mean BJP is scam free. Lets wait for the next govt.
Even though BJP has gone after opposition like chidambaram & cronies they hardly have any conviction to show for. Its all hot air.

Take the example of handling CBI director's post, the way it has been put into totally disarray . I would give credit to congress even though they made CBI into congress bureau of investigation they dint break it apart like current govt.
 
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Given that we cannot quantify this in immediate monetary terms I leave it there.

Actually we can. Majority of the projects cleared are for Indian designed and developed systems and systems developed through JVs with foreign companies. And with the exception of a few items which have been bought in small numbers thereby making them unviable for indigenous production, most of the imported stuff are with indigenous production conditions.

I know law & order is a state subject. All the BJP ruled states have let hooligans rule roost and even police ppl are not spared let alone civilians. How is BJP ruled states different from mulayum singh/mayawati/lalu's rule? Not to mention we have an absolute idiot as tripura governor.

There has been some improvement, but this is still a state subject and nothing to do with Modi himself or his govt.

there is no difference between congress & bjp when it comes to giving contracts to their favorites. No wonder India becomes laughing stock of the world when brokers like ambani who have no idea about R&D get partnered to manufacture fighter jets.

You have been suckered into believing biased media reports. GoI had no hand in Dassault choosing Reliance or the 70 odd other companies Dassault and co have tied up with that the media conveniently forgets to mention. Dassault and co are negotiating for agreements worth 9000Cr with DRDO and another 24000 Cr with the rest of the industry, out of which Reliance's offsets share with Dassault is just 800Cr. Just 800Cr.

Dassault chose Reliance specifically because they have zero experience and they have access to an airport. No other Indian partner matched Reliance. The reason why they chose a company with zero experience is because they wanted to instil Dassault's work ethos and production process right from the beginning, they did not want a conflict of ideas like they faced with HAL. And note that this has nothing to do with Rafale but with Dassault's civilian line of planes called Falcon. And Dassault choosing Reliance is the same as LM choosing TATA or Saab choosing Adani. The govt wasn't involved in any of these choices, it was entirely done by the companies themselves. And all these companies created their ventures based on rules created by Congress, not the BJP.

Reliance will become the first company in India that will come out with a fully assembled Falcon business jet by 2022. Not even HAL will be able to achieve this. Congress wants to utterly destroy our aerospace industry.

Congis are massive liars, don't believe them. Every single thing RaGa has said about Rafale is a lie.

Just bcos opposition is incompetent does not mean BJP is scam free. Lets wait for the next govt.

There's nothing one will find when nothing exists. Govts don't discover corruption, people do. And then they file cases in a court of law to book the corrupt.

Even though BJP has gone after opposition like chidambaram & cronies they hardly have any conviction to show for. Its all hot air.

How many Congis are in jail or have run away? This has nothing to do with BJP. Look up what the Supreme Court does.

Take the example of handling CBI director's post, the way it has been put into totally disarray . I would give credit to congress even though they made CBI into congress bureau of investigation they dint break it apart like current govt.

The entire bureaucratic system in India has been overhauled. All ministries have been reformed. Even RAW and IB, which no PM has dared to touch, have been reformed. DRDO was one of the first to undergo reforms, that's why 5 years down the line they are coming out with world class products. Look at how many shell companies BJP has closed down, the numbers go into lakhs. Even the army is now undergoing reforms. CBI reforms is just the tip of the iceberg. The whole country is undergoing reforms.

Read this:
https://www.theweek.in/theweek/cover/2018/11/03/spies-rule-the-roost.html

http://www.indiandefencereview.com/news/first-phase-of-army-reforms-cleared-by-ccs/

Most aam admi have no clue about the amount of reforms that have been brought in by Modi because they are largely ignorant about pretty much everything.

Google all this for yourself now. But just remember one thing; BJP, RSS etc will not do anything that harms the country. Plus they have no interest in corruption. They don't need corruption money, they rely on donations, which they get plenty of. Congress relies on corruption to raise funds. This is one of the principle reasons why BJP has been taint free for decades. This govt has been a zero scam govt.
 
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The economic abomination that was UPA can be illustrated succinctly in just one graph:

INDGFCF.jpg


The opportunity cost from stage 1 not materialising to its inertial potential because of stage 2 and then stage 3.

But the "illiterate chaiwalla" stage 4 (recovery through reform) must be totally ignored at best, or at worst attacked on the "jobs" or whatever card is drawn from a random hand (no matter who shuffled the deck or who says the deck was unbiased and random in first place...to make sense and context of the cards drawn)?

If anyone can tell me what were the main processes (and characters if you want extra marks) that largely governed the awful stage 2 and stage 3...combined with why I am making a big deal out of GFCF...they can get some cookie points from me....maybe to dip into chai from chaiwallah. I have already hinted at some.

More extra marks if you can project what India's GDP (in any standard you choose) would be today if say stage 1 materialised largely as it should have ( say assume a 40%+ even 45% of GDP of GCF maintained from 2007 - 2017...rather than having to drop to 30% by 2017...thanks to largely deliberate and sustained (mis)policy decisions).

There are lessons here for every developing country.

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