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Unfortunately you guys are used to of people slave-master mentality like pakistanisage also known as paudies in their eyes Arabs can do no wrong.
Funny in the other thread we are discussing UAE and other GCC states deporting foreign workers to create jobs for locals.And thats fine nothing wrong with that Governments to look after its citizens .

But at the same time when i say we Pakistanis are effected by terrorist financing from Arab nations that continues to destroy our country and hamper our ability to create jobs. i am a jerk for pointing that out really.

In order for me to be a good Muslim i must obey house of Saud other wise i am jerk. I must not speak the evils that haunt my country cause that will make me a jerk. If thats the definition of being a jerk then Fine i am a jerk


Mr. cheetah,

Before you run out of arguments, and accuse others of name calling.

your post is based on huge number of erroneous assumptions.

1. "you guys" in your post is directed towards Saudi Arabians who are educated, forward looking, and trying to be good global citizens. Why are you trying to stereotype them and lump them with dimwit Islamists?

Know your audience man. Known them before lumping them in a wrong way.


2. You must be aware that:

-- GCC does not believe in "permanent residence" concept like English speaking world.
-- GCC does not believe in "naturalized citizenship" concept like English speaking world.

Working in GCC is like on limited time work visa something similar to H1 for USA.
While USA provides a path to go from H1 to green card to passport,
GCC does not.


So why complain when all the expats in GCC know "in advance" that their work visa is for limited time only.

I am not defending them, just trying to explain the deal signed by the expat when he/she goes to GCC on a work visa.


3. Terrorist financing from Gulf charities.

OK. This is a well known topic. Pakistanis go beg for and get Islamist money from gulf and from Iran. It depends on your maslik, or your mazhab. Why blame only one party.

Next. Amount of funding. It used be huge back in 1990s. Now it is down to the trickle.
This is why Talib@stards loot banks and kinap for ransom. As they are not getting any more Riyals.


So please start living in 2013 and not remain stuck in 1990s.


4. Your last comment about House of Saud is just a jokerish comment. It is based on pure ignorance and prejudice. So no need to respond to it.



peace to you.

May you live long and prosper

May you have great spiritual experience during this holy month.

Amen
 
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Mr. cheetah,

Before you run out of arguments, and accuse others of name calling.

your post is based on huge number of erroneous assumptions.

1. "you guys" in your post is directed towards Saudi Arabians who are educated, forward looking, and trying to be good global citizens. Why are you trying to stereotype them and lump them with dimwit Islamists?

Know your audience man. Known them before lumping them in a wrong way.


2. You must be aware that:

-- GCC does not believe in "permanent residence" concept like English speaking world.
-- GCC does not believe in "naturalized citizenship" concept like English speaking world.

Working in GCC is like on limited time work visa something similar to H1 for USA.
While USA provides a path to go from H1 to green card to passport,
GCC does not.


So why complain when all the expats in GCC know "in advance" that their work visa is for limited time only.

I am not defending them, just trying to explain the deal signed by the expat when he/she goes to GCC on a work visa.


3. Terrorist financing from Gulf charities.

OK. This is a well known topic. Pakistanis go beg for and get Islamist money from gulf and from Iran. It depends on your maslik, or your mazhab. Why blame only one party.

Next. Amount of funding. It used be huge back in 1990s. Now it is down to the trickle.
This is why Talib@stards loot banks and kinap for ransom. As they are not getting any more Riyals.


So please start living in 2013 and not remain stuck in 1990s.


4. Your last comment about House of Saud is just a jokerish comment. It is based on pure ignorance and prejudice. So no need to respond to it.



peace to you.

May you live long and prosper

May you have great spiritual experience during this holy month.

Amen
Well said well argumented well explained.
 
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=mafiya;4510177]L o L,,, Jahil calling every other person Jaahil :omghaha:

I am glad you noticed.:toast_sign: cause you do it all the time.:smart:

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=FaujHistorian;4510240]Mr. cheetah,

Yes Mr fauji Historian

Before you run out of arguments, and accuse others of name calling.

Stop resorting to name calling.
your post is based on huge number of erroneous assumptions.

what post would that be? My pots arent based on numbers or made up facts as most of yours are.

1. "you guys" in your post is directed towards Saudi Arabians who are educated, forward looking, and trying to be good global citizens. Why are you trying to stereotype them and lump them with dimwit Islamists?

The hijackers in the September 11 attacks were 19 men affiliated with AL-Qaeda, and 15 of the 19 were citizens of Saudi,who in their freaking right mind would call Saudi Arabian forward looking other then a you.every Saudi funded madrassha is preaching hatred you call that forward looking.

A madrassa is an Islamic religious school. Many of the Taliban were educated in Saudi-financed madrassas in Pakistan that teach Wahhabism, a particularly austere and rigid form of Islam which is rooted in Saudi Arabia. Around the world, Saudi wealth and charities contributed to an explosive growth of madrassas during the Afghan jihad against the Soviets. During that war (1979-1989), a new kind of madrassa emerged in the Pakistan-Afghanistan region -- not so much concerned about scholarship as making war on infidels. The enemy then was the Soviet Union, today it's America. Here are analyses of the madrassas from interviews with Vali Nasr, an authority on Islamic fundamentalism, and Richard Holbrooke, former U.S. ambassador to the U.N. (For more on the role of madrassas in producing militant Islamists, see the story of Haroun Fazul.)

Why are you trying to stereotype them and lump them with dimwit Islamists?

All you need is eyes in brains to see the obvious.

Know your audience man. Known them before lumping them in a wrong way.

Thank you for talking gibberish
2. You must be aware that:

-- GCC does not believe in "permanent residence" concept like English speaking world.
-- GCC does not believe in "naturalized citizenship" concept like English speaking world.

i am very happy for you to say that but once again what does this gibberish has what to do with what we are talking about?Lear to stay on Topic.

Working in GCC is like on limited time work visa something similar to H1 for USA.
While USA provides a path to go from H1 to green card to passport,
GCC does not.

Again thats a different topic and this is different stay on topic.

So why complain when all the expats in GCC know "in advance" that their work visa is for limited time only.

you must have A.D.D or cant read and understand read again what i said?

I am not defending them, just trying to explain the deal signed by the expat when he/she goes to GCC on a work visa.

Again Read what i said before answering the freaking question that was never asked.

3. Terrorist financing from Gulf charities.

While the United States is close allies with Saudi Arabia and Qatar, it is well established that the chief financier of extremist militant groups for the past 3 decades, including Al Qaeda, are in fact Saudi Arabia and Qatar. While Qatari state-owned propaganda like Al Jazeera apply a veneer of progressive pro-democracy to its narratives, Qatar itself is involved in arming, funding, and even providing direct military support for sectarian extremists from northern Mali, to Libya, to Syria and beyond.

OK. This is a well known topic. Pakistanis go beg for and get Islamist money from gulf and from Iran. It depends on your maslik, or your mazhab. Why blame only one party.

Receiving party so far has been shias and other minorities yet you still call victims the aggressors.

Next. Amount of funding. It used be huge back in 1990s. Now it is down to the trickle.

funny on one hand you question the funding on the other hand you say oh well its down then before?its on this forum where it says courier service between GCC nations and pakistan continues.

This is why Talib@stards loot banks and kinap for ransom. As they are not getting any more Riyals.

Where did i claim Taliban's to be man of honor.
So please start living in 2013 and not remain stuck in 1990s
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i am stuck in 1990s and you are defending the ideology of cave man.

4. Your last comment about House of Saud is just a jokerish comment. It is based on pure ignorance and prejudice. So no need to respond to it.

which comment would that be ?

peace to you.

you defend the people who wants to kill every one that not like them and at the same time wish people peace nice.i hope you get peace too.

May you live long and prosper

same to you.

May you have great spiritual experience during this holy month.

I wish you the same
 
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=Yzd Khalifa;4510132]You know what Cheetah? You're nothing more than a pathological liar, Your blindness couldn't help you to see who's right, who's wrong.
http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-africa/257055-over-2m-expats-rectify-update-status.htm

http://www.defence.pk/forums/middle-east-africa/257101-moi-won-t-retire-foreigners-above-60-a.html



KSA isn't The Lord's representative to earth to determine who's a good Muslim and who's a bad Muslim, nor is the house of Saud the lord's ambassador to the mankind to do so. We never asked anyone to fallow our guide, or play by the rules or whatever. Apparently, you do know the hell you're talking about.

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I bet you didn't know that Most of these paudies in pakistan wear same dress people in dessert wear. Cause they think dressing like Arabs will get them into heaven.i have seen these paudies walking around in -20 temperature in new york wearing a dress thats designed for desserts.

I am trying to explain the mindset of these people. i hope you understand.









That's is a pure lie as well, I've been asking you for ages to submit a solid proof about some Arab nations sponsoring terror in Pakistan,

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi is Part of US-Saudi Terror Network

In terms of Pakistan’s Lashkar-e-Jhangvi, as well as the infamous Lashkar-e-Taiba that carried out the 2008 Mumbai, India attack killing over 160, both are affiliates of Al Qaeda, and both have been linked financially, directly to Saudi Arabia. In the Guardian’s article, “WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists,” the US State Department even acknowledges that Saudi Arabia is indeed funding terrorism in Pakistan:

Saudi Arabia is the world’s largest source of funds for Islamist militant groups such as the Afghan Taliban and Lashkar-e-Taiba – but the Saudi government is reluctant to stem the flow of money, according to Hillary Clinton.

“More needs to be done since Saudi Arabia remains a critical financial support base for al-Qaida, the Taliban, LeT and other terrorist groups,” says a secret December 2009 paper signed by the US secretary of state. Her memo urged US diplomats to redouble their efforts to stop Gulf money reaching extremists in Pakistan and Afghanistan.

“Donors in Saudi Arabia constitute the most significant source of funding to Sunni terrorist groups worldwide,” she said.

Three other Arab countries are listed as sources of militant money: Qatar, Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates.

Lashkar-e-Jhangvi has also been financially linked to the Persian Gulf monarchies. Stanford University’s “Mapping Militant Organizations: Lashkar-e-Jhangvi,” states under “External Influences:”

LeJ has received money from several Persian Gulf countries including Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates[25] These countries funded LeJ and other Sunni militant groups primarily to counter the rising influence of Iran’s revolutionary Shiism.

Astonishingly, despite these admission, the US works politically, financially, economically, and even militarily in tandem with these very same state-sponsors of rampant, global terrorism. In Libya and Syria, the US has even assisted in the funding and arming of Al Qaeda and affiliated terrorist groups, and had conspired with Saudi Arabia since at least 2007 to overthrow both Syria and Iran with these terrorist groups. And while Saudi Arabia funds terrorism in Pakistan, the US is well documented to be funding political subversion in the very areas where the most heinous attacks are being carried out.

WikiLeaks cables portray Saudi Arabia as a cash machine for terrorists | World news | The Guardian

yet you keep bad-mouthing us on daily basis with your sectarian mentality. Your poor attitude toward your own fellow countrymen is unbearably unacceptable, I just feel sorry for you.

you would be bad mouthing any country thats sponsoring terrorism in your nation. Don't tell me you will send them flowers and thank cards after ever terrorist attack.

You question me about my country man really at the end Osama bin laden wasn't even allowed in Saudi Arabia while world renounced terrorist was living in pakistan.These people eyes Arabs cant do no wrong period!!!!!!!what does that tell you about my country man.
 
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