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Slow HAL impacting India's air combat strength: IAF to Govt

Thursday, January 24, 2019



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Production delays by state run Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) have seriously impacted air combat strength, particularly when it comes to its Mirage 2000 and Jaguar fighter fleets that are currently undergoing upgrades, the air force has informed the government.

Pointing to delays ranging from two to six years, the air force has brought out that HAL has not been able to meet delivery schedules, resulting in both fleets being in a sub optimal state, besides raising questions on the trainer aircraft being developed by the agency.

The Mirage 2000 is India’s cutting edge fighter, tasked with a nuclear weapon delivery role as well. The Jaguar fleet was purchased in the late 1970s but is still a potent ground attack fighter designed for surgical, deep penetration missions.

However, in a review of the aeronautic company late last year, the air force has said that the series upgrade of 47 Mirage 2000 fighters that was signed in July 2011 has seen three production schedule delays already. It has informed the government that as per schedule, HAL should have delivered 21 upgraded jets but has actually been able to send only six.

Sources informed ET that since the review, one more jet has been delivered. HAL has blamed the delay on the non-availability of kits from France but the air force is not impressed by the argument, given that the contract was signed over seven years ago. Officials say this delay has seriously impacted operational preparedness as well as availability rate for the ‘very competent fighter’.

Besides the 47 Mirage fighters, the air force has also red flagged a six year delay in the upgrade of the Jaguar fleet to DARIN III standard. The contract to upgrade 61of these fighters was signed in December 2009, with the understanding that all of them would be ready by December 2017.

However, not a single aircraft has yet been delivered to the air force with HAL struggling to integrate a new radar on the jets. IAF has informed the government that it now expects the upgraded fighters to join service only by 2024.

Sources said the delay has again come at the cost of combat strength as it has pushed down availability of fighters. At present, an entire squadron strength of 20 fighters is not operational, awaiting the upgrade.

HAL’s record on the delivery of Su 30 MKI fighters has also been questioned, with the government being informed that there is an overall delay of three years in the production schedule. While all aircraft were to be delivered by 2017, HAL still has at least 23 of the fighters to deliver to the air force.

On trainer aircraft, the air force has raised questions on the development schedule of the HTT 40 basic trainer. While the timeline for certification of the trainer was February 2015, the air force says the project is running behind time and it is not expected that HAL will manage even to certify the aircraft as fit for service before 2021
 
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''The contract to upgrade 61of these fighters was signed in December 2009, with the understanding that all of them would be ready by December 2017.
However, not a single aircraft has yet been delivered to the air force with HAL struggling to integrate a new radar on the jets. IAF has informed the government that it now expects the upgraded fighters to join service only by 2024''.


This is by any standards scandalous, while all others have all but phased out the Jaguars, the IAF will be re inducting them five years from now.
 
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''The contract to upgrade 61of these fighters was signed in December 2009, with the understanding that all of them would be ready by December 2017.
However, not a single aircraft has yet been delivered to the air force with HAL struggling to integrate a new radar on the jets. IAF has informed the government that it now expects the upgraded fighters to join service only by 2024''.


This is by any standards scandalous, while all others have all but phased out the Jaguars, the IAF will be re inducting them five years from now.
Wowwwww...astonishing Indian competency. If you do this in China, the whole team will get fired.
 
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Looks like politics has been taken to the fore over logic and reasoning.

Dassult held the supply of upgrade kits Hostage to get the Rafale deal

No such thing has happened. It was just normal delays.

This is by any standards scandalous, while all others have all but phased out the Jaguars, the IAF will be re inducting them five years from now.

Others phasing out Jaguars has nothing to do with the capability of the aircraft itself.

Jaguars will survive in the IAF well into the 2040s. It's extremely capable and you wish you had something like it.
 
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Others phasing out Jaguars has nothing to do with the capability of the aircraft itself.

Jaguars will survive in the IAF well into the 2040s. It's extremely capable and you wish you had something like it.
LOL, lt certainly didn't impress the media and VIPs who were invited by one base commander to demonstrate all weather capability of the Jaguar by sending off a flight in adverse conditions, they were all amused when none of them returned, while two crashed and the other two had to divert elsewhere,
And catch up on your history, there was reason when PAF had the option, it selected A-7 Corsair over the Jaguar.
 
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''The contract to upgrade 61of these fighters was signed in December 2009, with the understanding that all of them would be ready by December 2017.
However, not a single aircraft has yet been delivered to the air force with HAL struggling to integrate a new radar on the jets. IAF has informed the government that it now expects the upgraded fighters to join service only by 2024''.


This is by any standards scandalous, while all others have all but phased out the Jaguars, the IAF will be re inducting them five years from now.


Staggering!
 
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Mirage upgrade is not HALs fault.
Dassult held the supply of upgrade kits Hostage to get the Rafale deal and began supplying the kits only from March 2017 onwards only after Rafale deal was signed in Sept 2016 even though the Mirage upgrade deal was signed in 2011.

HAL has delivered 200 Su-30 MKI & 12 Tejas in 21st century making it the largest fighter manufacturer in Asia outside of China
So you know more than the indian airforce.

12 tejas in 36 years. Loooool. My job is done here
 
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Read the comment above by the esteemed member....Jaguars will serve well into 2040.
The butt of the joke in RAF circles was that, it's the curvature of the earth which keeps Jaguars in the air.
Jaguars are like JH-7A, it's not gonna last till 2040.
 
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LOL, lt certainly didn't impress the media and VIPs who were invited by one base commander to demonstrate all weather capability of the Jaguar by sending off a flight in adverse conditions, they were all amused when none of them returned, while two crashed and the other two had to divert elsewhere,

What speaks for itself is the amount of time and money we are prepared to spend on an old aircraft just to keep it going, not irrelevant one-off incidents.

And catch up on your history, there was reason when PAF had the option, it selected A-7 Corsair over the Jaguar.

Choosing an American aircraft over a European one has nothing to do with the capability of the aircraft itself. You actually had to pay the full amount for European jets.

Of course, you guys apparently rejected the Rafale, Typhoon, Gripen etc, so we know what your standards really are.

Read the comment above by the esteemed member....Jaguars will serve well into 2040.
The butt of the joke in RAF circles was that, it's the curvature of the earth which keeps Jaguars in the air.

That's an IAF joke, genius. The RAF Jaguars did not face power problems due to their colder climate and older, less advanced configuration.
 
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Its time for us to move from the PSUs to corporate ...HAL is nothing more then a dead weight
 
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Mirage upgrade is not HALs fault.
Dassult held the supply of upgrade kits Hostage to get the Rafale deal and began supplying the kits only from March 2017 onwards only after Rafale deal was signed in Sept 2016 even though the Mirage upgrade deal was signed in 2011.

HAL has delivered 200 Su-30 MKI & 12 Tejas in 21st century making it the largest fighter manufacturer in Asia outside of China
My friend who ever fault it is but one thing is for sure and that is ,some one is enjoying big bucks..!!
 
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In PSUs there is no or very less accountability .... L&T or Tata seems to be the best option to replace HAL
My friend who ever fault it is but one thing is for sure and that is ,some one is enjoying big bucks..!!
 
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