SK Hynix Isn't Sure How Its Chips Got in Huawei's New Phone

[Hamartia Antidote]

SK Hynix Isn't Sure How Its Chips Got in Huawei's New Phone

The Huawei Mate 60 Pro is a mysterious phone that should not exist.

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It's been a few years since Huawei released a phone worthy of notice stateside, but the new Mate 60 Pro has raised eyebrows on both sides of the Pacific. It's not a particularly innovative phone, but it contains chips that shouldn't exist. In addition to the mysterious Kirin 9000s processor, teardowns have revealed what appear to be SK Hynix memory and NAND flash. This would be a significant violation of US trade sanctions, but the South Korean firm says it's looking into how Huawei got the chips.

Huawei was vague about many aspects of the Mate 60 Pro's hardware, but Chinese consumers have been poking around inside the phone since it launched. Multiple teardowns show at least two chips from SK Hynix inside, a 176-layer 4D NAND chip (UD310) and 512Gb LPDDR5 modules bearing model number HN8T25DEHKX077. It has at least moved on from releasing the same phone multiple times.

As far as anyone can tell, these are authentic SK Hynix parts, but the company professes its innocence, saying that it adheres to the US sanctions. Because SK Hynix relies on US technology to manufacture chips, it has no choice but to comply. Some have speculated that Huawei stockpiled SK Hynix components when it still had limited access to US markets in 2020 (that's when the U310 was released). But if that's the case, Huawei would be severely limited in the number of Mate 60 Pro phones it could produce.

 

[MH.Yang]

Don't start a rumour. Bloomberg has already dismantled and proven that Huawei's new phone uses 100% Chinese parts.



Bloomberg: Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

The company’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by SMIC’s 7nm chips, according to analysis that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News

www.bloomberg.com

 

[K_Bin_W]

Don't start a rumour. Bloomberg has already dismantled and proven that Huawei's new phone uses 100% Chinese parts.



Bloomberg: Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

The company’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by SMIC’s 7nm chips, according to analysis that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News

www.bloomberg.com

Left silent about the CPU the West is now picking on memory chips - LOL... I call this clutching at straws.... Well done China...

When the caravan moves the dogs bark.

 

[serenity]

CPU logic chip breakthrough is the feat of the new huawei phone

It may still use a foreign NAND memory chip

 

[Paji]

Don't start a rumour. Bloomberg has already dismantled and proven that Huawei's new phone uses 100% Chinese parts.



Bloomberg: Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

The company’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by SMIC’s 7nm chips, according to analysis that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News

www.bloomberg.com

Bloomberg only reported that the processor was stamped SMIC. There are allegations that SMIC busted sanctions to produce the processor and these are being investigated. Anyway, SK Hynix produces memory chips, not processors. If the news was false, they would have said the Huawei phone doesn't use their chips instead of claiming they don't know how their memory chips got into it.

 

[silverox]

China's memory technology has already caught up with South Korea. In the past, South Korea monopolized the memory market and often used factory power outages and factory fires as excuses to raise prices. The 8G memory stick I bought in 2017 cost nearly 900 yuan　ＲＭＢ. Now that China can produce memory sticks, the price has dropped significantly.

I don’t know how much it costs for Pakistanis to buy computer memory sticks now.

 

[hydrabadi_arab]

Its probably not a big deal for China to be few years behind world. iPhone 14 uses 5nm, this year 3nm will be introduced.

China is happy with progress and who knows in coming years gap can be reduced further.

 

[Paji]

China's memory technology has already caught up with South Korea. In the past, South Korea monopolized the memory market and often used factory power outages and factory fires as excuses to raise prices. The 8G memory stick I bought in 2017 cost nearly 900 yuan　ＲＭＢ. Now that China can produce memory sticks, the price has dropped significantly.

I don’t know how much it costs for Pakistanis to buy computer memory sticks now.

We are not talking about 8GB memory sticks here. The chips in question are a 12GB LPDDR5 chip and a 512GB NAND flash memory chip. Which Chinese companies produce these and at what cost ?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Don't start a rumour. Bloomberg has already dismantled and proven that Huawei's new phone uses 100% Chinese parts.

Oh so they said 100% eh? Well read the Bloomberg article again please..

Bloomberg is mentioning SK Hynix.


****Bloomberg Television****:

Huawei Mate 60 Pro Teardown: SK Hynix Investigating Use of Its Chips​

Don't start a rumour.

Yeah..and that includes YOU...it appears Chinese PDF members have extreme trouble following even their own advice.

Next time get your facts straight before making a quick reply!

 

[jhungary]

Don't start a rumour. Bloomberg has already dismantled and proven that Huawei's new phone uses 100% Chinese parts.



Bloomberg: Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

Huawei Teardown Shows Chip Breakthrough in Blow to US Sanctions

The company’s Mate 60 Pro is powered by SMIC’s 7nm chips, according to analysis that TechInsights conducted for Bloomberg News

www.bloomberg.com

It's confirmed Mate 60 Pro have SK Hynix chips inside.

here are the screenshot from a takedown video

He talked about the RAM and ROM at 4:28

 

[jhungary]

We are not talking about 8GB memory sticks here. The chips in question are a 12GB LPDDR5 chip and a 512GB NAND flash memory chip. Which Chinese companies produce these and at what cost ?

Doesn't look like Chinese produced them

It actually stamped SK Hynix on those 2 chips in question.....(SEE PIC ABOVE)

 

[MH.Yang]

Doesn't look like Chinese produced them

It actually stamped SK Hynix on those 2 chips in question.....(SEE PIC ABOVE)

Memory chip production is already mature, and there is no shortage of manufacturers in China producing such chips. There's no reason for Huawei to use a Korean product for the memory chip; it's not worth tarnishing the purity of this phone for the memory chip.

 

[jhungary]

Memory chip production is already mature, and there is no shortage of manufacturers in China producing such chips. There's no reason for Huawei to use a Korean product for the memory chip; it's not worth tarnishing the purity of this phone for the memory chip.

That didn't answer the question why Mate 60Pro have SK Hynix chips, which was actually inside the phone and according to US State Department sanction on Huawei, SK Hynix not supposed to supply those LPDDR5 chips to Huawei.

This is not a hoax, not a fake, this is a confirmed news. Or are you saying that video is a fake or those aren't SK Hynix chips?

 

[Paji]

Memory chip production is already mature, and there is no shortage of manufacturers in China producing such chips. There's no reason for Huawei to use a Korean product for the memory chip; it's not worth tarnishing the purity of this phone for the memory chip.

Are you serious? There is not going to be any more advancement in memory chip technology for the next 10 thousand years, while processors keep improving ? How many 512GB NAND flash memory chips existed 20 years ago ?

That didn't answer the question why Mate 60Pro have SK Hynix chips, which was actually inside the phone and according to US State Department sanction on Huawei, SK Hynix not supposed to supply those LPDDR5 chips to Huawei.

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This is not a hoax, not a fake, this is a confirmed news. Or are you saying that video is a fake or those aren't SK Hynix chips?

This is because no Chinese company can manufacture memory chips of the same specs without busting sanctions. The only other producers are likely Samsung and Micron.

 

[MH.Yang]

That didn't answer the question why Mate 60Pro have SK Hynix chips, which was actually inside the phone and according to US State Department sanction on Huawei, SK Hynix not supposed to supply those LPDDR5 chips to Huawei.

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This is not a hoax, not a fake, this is a confirmed news. Or are you saying that video is a fake or those aren't SK Hynix chips?

The U.S. needs South Korea badly right now.

I am sure the US govt no longer has the guts to sanction SK Hynix.

The US now is not the US of 1987.