Six F-35 Jets Meant for Turkey to be Handed over to US Air Force

[Trango Towers]

Turkey can Join Project Azm

Or we could also join TFX

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

can any Turkish member shed light why it was necessary for Turkey to go for S400 and jeopordize the entire F35 program?

Possibly to appease Putin not to take Idlib city.

 

[IceCold]

Turkey can Join Project Azm

Turkey will be part of project of Azm or Pakistan will be part of Turkish 5th generation platform remains to be seen but one thing is for sure that both countries will be involved closely in the next generation fighter program.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Turkey will be part of project of Azm or Pakistan will be part of Turkish 5th generation platform remains to be seen but one thing is for sure that both countries will be involved closely in the next generation fighter program.

Azm is based on J-31. China will never allow Turkey to join Azm because of Turkey's backing of East Turkestan secession.

 

[IceCold]

Azm is based on J-31. China will never allow Turkey to join Azm because of Turkey's backing of East Turkestan secession.

Much of the details on AZM is not known but it will not be based entirely on J-31, we might end up in with Turkey on this one. J-31 to be AZM is just a rumor.

 

[The SC]

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...o_be_Handed_over_to_US_Air_Force#.XuRCU5Z7nCI

The United States National Defence Authorisation Act (NDAA) 2021 has authorized the Air Force to utilize, modify, and operate six Turkish F-35s that were manufactured but never delivered because Turkey was suspended from the F-35 program.

The NDAA which is expected to be passed into law will mean the official exit from the F-35 program for Turkey for continuing with the purchase and operation of the Russian S-400 air defence system (ADS).

The NDAA bill makes no mention of the $1.5 billion advance paid by Turkey to buy the aircraft. Ankara has demanded a refund following the US not delivering two aircraft as per schedule.

Of the six aircraft, two were being used to train Turkish pilots when the row with the US broke out in 2018.

The closure to Turkey's quest for F-35 jets is expected to make it go closer to Russia for modern jets and accelerate efforts on its TX jet project.

There are reports that Ankara may retaliate by restricting US military aircraft flights from its Incirlik air base.

Maybe they are going to the UAE or KSA now.. most likely the UAE first..

 

[PakAlp]

The real question here is not whose weapons turkey may buy,or be forced to buy,in the future,but whether turkey will continue to be a nato member,as with this action by the americans it now seems very clear that at least under the chump and erdo regimes,that turkey is effectively frozen out of natos 5th gen airpower upgrade and that its western supplied airpower will be restricted to its current 4th gen capabilities only.
At some point in the near future turkey is likely going to have to make some hard choices.......and it isnt going to be about which countries fighters or sam systems it should purchase either.

Since the alleged usa/arab coup in Turkey, the relations between usa/nato and Turkey have been going downhill. I can understand why Erdogan is upset because they tried to remove him from power but I do believe he should have made better choices. Why not wait 5 to 10 years till he receives all the 5th generation jets, latest western technology and then slowly balance the relations between west and Asia. Instead Erdogan straight away became aggressive against the west and started to purchase s400s in order to annoy the west, usa retaliated to stop Turkish participation in f35, I would definitely choose f35 over s400.

Turkey will soon develop own long range anti missile systems, but can Turkey develop 5th, 6th+ generation technology without the west? If Turkey could do this then fair move but if Turkey cant then it's a very bad move.

 

[Trango Towers]

Azm is based on J-31. China will never allow Turkey to join Azm because of Turkey's backing of East Turkestan secession.

Ok so u know what no one else know? Can you share with us how it's based on j31 when the only image is from tail art on a c130. It has canard and j31 doesnt. Additionally, it may not be a true representation?

 

[TruthHurtz]

Should've waited when the first batch was delivered and threatened to let Russia or China have a look at them if US took action after S-400 purchase.

Russia will be super happy to sell, problem is that Russian jets are not even close to F-35.

The F-35 is literally trash and has crashed twice in recent weeks. The F-35 is like a fatkid trying to 'outsmart' an MMA fighter because he scored high on an IQ test.

 

[500]

The F-35 is literally trash and has crashed twice in recent weeks.

Not true. Total 3 F-35 crashed in 2018, 2019 and 2020. F-35 fleet conducted nearly 300,000 flight hours. One crash per 100,000 hours shows excellent reliability.

The F-35 is like a fatkid trying to 'outsmart' an MMA fighter because he scored high on an IQ test.

Well in the end smart kids rule the world, while MMA fighters entertain them like monkeys in circus.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/f-35-myths-and-facts.568772/