Situation on the ground, complete insanity

[beijingwalker]

@waz @Dubious

Why you can post video about Xinjiang but I can't?

 

[fitpOsitive]

He does not count as media I've been looking into the issue, and I find him 10× more believable then any media report.

It's hard to say but... Why will China create troubles for her at this already critical times.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

I m posting what really happens in Xinjiang, isnt' it what this thread about?

Your spamming

 

[fisher1]

Ok, visit Xinjiang yourself, and then post here, then I will believe you.

Otherwise, its just youtube war.
Otherwise for me @beijingwalker is more reliable than a youtube video.

So what you're saying is you would believe Pakhtoon yum if he makes a video - a relatively nobody - but not an Arab travel vlogger with over 2.2 million subscribers? Fascinating

Also you believe an obvious Chinese with propaganda as mission over a nobody without any political interest. Watch Joe Hattab other videos, he doesn't give two fucks about politics but travelling and enjoying.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

It's hard to say but... Why will China create troubles for her at this already critical times.

It has before and old habits die hard. The communist part hates all religois and they see Islam as a major hurdal in their control over western China

 

[beijingwalker]

Your spamming

What is spamming, there are all about the thread and what really happens there, you can refute them with your sources, I can use mine.

 

[Cent4]

I wouldn't be acusing if I didnt do my own research boi,
I reached this conclusion after months of these kind of news, started to come or. I don't believe any western media outlet. But there is something very insane going on

Research on what. Do you have conclusive proof of this genocide and "oppression"? Define oppression here as well.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

What is spamming, there are all about the thread and what really happens there, you can refute them with your sources, I can use mine.

What you are posting is unrelated so it's considered spamming. What the hell have tourists have to do with what I've posted. If you had watched the videos you would have realized the the tourists are also doing more harm

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

This is as close to as the actual situation as we are going to get. This is absolutely insane and disgusting.
Not allowed to fast
Not allowed to pray
Mosques turned into show rooms and not respected by the Chinese.
People afraid to greet in Arabic
People afraid to talk about Islam.
The situation is very bad and repulsive. I no longer look at China as a friend of Pakistan nor will I give it any of the respect I used too.

I completely trust this guy, he's seen the world and knows what he is talking about. Kudos to the brave man, for being there and asking people questions, even after getting harassed by the police.

This seems completely legitimate. Those empty and closed masajid are very scary.

Any Chinese PDF member can visit those places and take a video as this Arab has done?

Make sure to give the date and we will see the truth of these allegations.

It is the only way we can learn the truth.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Research on what. Do you have conclusive proof of this genocide and "oppression"? Define oppression here as well.

Define oppression, oppression is the freedom of religion, expression and culture being taken away by a state, in this case. Oppression has many faces and this is one of them. Do I have proof? I have proof that I believe, but you will call it off, just because you have other motives. If you want proof that you find believe then look into the matter yourself. I'm not here to spoon feed everyone. My job was to raise awareness

 

[Numerous]

Bro its their country their rules, however I don’t believe in all these exaggerated stuff coming out these days.

I don’t understand this why the filliping hell would Pakistani men go and marry these Chinese women and then go and settle in China.

That's not how the world works man. I mean look at this way, we criticise Indians all the time for their treatment of Muslims.

They're not chinese women, they're uighurs. Very different from han chinese. But even then there is nothing bad about doing business in another country and marrying local Muslim women.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

This seems completely legitimate. Those empty and closed masajid are very scary.

Any Chinese PDF member can visit those places and take a video as this Arab has done?

Make sure to give the date and we will see the truth of these allegations.

It is the only way we can learn the truth.

All the mashids have been closed and did you see the photos he provided, of the same masjids a few years back?

 

[beijingwalker]

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

@Dubious he keeps spamming

 

[Cent4]

So what you're saying is you would believe Pakhtoon yum if he makes a video - a relatively nobody - but not an Arab travel vlogger with over 2.2 million subscribers? Fascinating

Also you believe an obvious Chinese with propaganda as mission over a nobody without any political interest. Watch Joe Hattab other videos, he doesn't give two fucks about politics but travelling and enjoying.

These vloggers on both sides are milking this whole situation for more followers/views. Did we see any vlogs on these locations before ?
I am not saying the situation is all fine but to trust any vlogger in such sensative issues is insane.