Singapore Armed Forces

[jhungary]

I have university classmates now study in America,what I mean mainstream society is not you can earn well or educated better,but many other things,my classmates dislike Affirmative Action,many of their Black and Hispanic classmats play all the day,but those people still can in good university,this is pathetic.And in their culture,they have some biase against Asian males,for example think Asians are weak and so on.They are just students,so they can't contact American society further.
Do you see anyone talk about Hagel's German roots?No,but when one Asian American successed,they will say,an Asian,great achievement,they treat you just differantly

Don't agree on what you said.

Whether or not an Asian can assimilate very much depend on whether or not that particular Asian willing to work on it.

From where I was looking, many Asian are not willing to assimilate to Western Culture. I see tons (TONS) of Chinese watching Chinese TV program from SAT TV and only talk Chinese in Public. Where all their circle is Chinese. Japanese and Korean did better, but still most Asian people only hang around with their own kind. And you cannot assimilate with that.

Me, for instant, I would say I am more than assimilate into White man society. But then I was born in the US, still, I live long enough in China so people in China would think I am one of them, and people in America will think I am one of them too. I had a white collar job, went to university, commanded troop in battle (mostly white people) but yet I speak fluent Chinese and I can port to Chinese as easy as white. Yes, sometime some Chinese call me a banana and some white call me Jackie Chan, but still in all, people in both side would recognise that I was one of them.

Take my father in law for example. He is white, and he literally never saw a Chinese in his life (He is Swedish, so was my wife) and yet he did not think I am an outside, he think I am a swede, even tho I speak crap Swedish.

But then there are years of learning the language and culture on both side, so I guess, in the end, its really much depend on if you want to work for it

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Singapore under the Chinese government is the most non racist people in the whole world, and our goodness is not what many racist can fathom. Under the Chinese people, every race have almost equal opportunity (I would say we are not perfect yet).


Malay Muslim Colonel

Chief of Army a Major General is an Indian

Indian Technician in Navy

Malay Muslim seaman

 

[Aepsilons]

Don't agree on what you said.

Whether or not an Asian can assimilate very much depend on whether or not that particular Asian willing to work on it.

From where I was looking, many Asian are not willing to assimilate to Western Culture. I see tons (TONS) of Chinese watching Chinese TV program from SAT TV and only talk Chinese in Public. Where all their circle is Chinese. Japanese and Korean did better, but still most Asian people only hang around with their own kind. And you cannot assimilate with that.

Me, for instant, I would say I am more than assimilate into White man society. But then I was born in the US, still, I live long enough in China so people in China would think I am one of them, and people in America will think I am one of them too. I had a white collar job, went to university, commanded troop in battle (mostly white people) but yet I speak fluent Chinese and I can port to Chinese as easy as white. Yes, sometime some Chinese call me a banana and some white call me Jackie Chan, but still in all, people in both side would recognise that I was one of them.

Take my father in law for example. He is white, and he literally never saw a Chinese in his life (He is Swedish, so was my wife) and yet he did not think I am an outside, he think I am a swede, even tho I speak crap Swedish.

But then there are years of learning the language and culture on both side, so I guess, in the end, its really much depend on if you want to work for it

Very well said @jhungary . And I think this is one issue that I don't particularly like about elements in East Asian society; it is this tribal mentality, it is this underlying xenophobiasm. I remember growing up in Japan whenever someone who is "Gaijin" walks around, everyone, and i mean, everyone, looks and stares. In the United States, this is not really so (tho there are some pockets, elements). In the United States, its important to really break through this invisible , this arbitrary wall we Asians enable.

Assimilation is key especially if one lives in a multicultural, pluralistic society. And to be honest that's the beauty that I so greatly admire and cherish about living in the United States. There is so much diversity , so much color and unique characteristics that is literally so foreign to my own. In order to succeed, we have to adopt and implement this culture to our lives and be an "active" participant in this society.

Like in the US, most of my friends are non-Japanese. I've a mixed group of friends; white-americans,, Indians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, and also a lot of Chinese, Korean. And these past few years living in USA, its no big deal to see diversity. If I ever go out on dates with say a Korean-American, no one stares. If i go out on a date with an Latina-American, or Nigerian-American girl, no one stares. Its part of the multicultural experience. But if i did that in say Japan? Oh yea, hellz yea i'd be stared at.

 

[terranMarine]

Very well said @jhungary . And I think this is one issue that I don't particularly like about elements in East Asian society; it is this tribal mentality, it is this underlying xenophobiasm. I remember growing up in Japan whenever someone who is "Gaijin" walks around, everyone, and i mean, everyone, looks and stares. In the United States, this is not really so (tho there are some pockets, elements). In the United States, its important to really break through this invisible , this arbitrary wall we Asians enable.

Assimilation is key especially if one lives in a multicultural, pluralistic society. And to be honest that's the beauty that I so greatly admire and cherish about living in the United States. There is so much diversity , so much color and unique characteristics that is literally so foreign to my own. In order to succeed, we have to adopt and implement this culture to our lives and be an "active" participant in this society.

Like in the US, most of my friends are non-Japanese. I've a mixed group of friends; white-americans,, Indians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, and also a lot of Chinese, Korean. And these past few years living in USA, its no big deal to see diversity. If I ever go out on dates with say a Korean-American, no one stares. If i go out on a date with an Latina-American, or Nigerian-American girl, no one stares. Its part of the multicultural experience. But if i did that in say Japan? Oh yea, hellz yea i'd be stared at.

With so many gaijins living in Japan (Tokyo) i'm surprised they will give you a stare though Japan is still quite a xenophobic society

 

[Aepsilons]

With so many gaijins living in Japan (Tokyo) i'm surprised they will give you a stare though Japan is still quite a xenophobic society

It is **still** a very much xenophobic society. It is not just a Japanese trait, Terry, its a trait of East Asians, i think. Think of it this way, when i went to Korea, i got no stares, perhaps because i can pass for Korean. When I am in China, i get no stares, because I can pass for Chinese.

But if a red headed , blue eyed, freckle-faced Irish American is in Japan, he'll get stared at. In Korea, definitely. In China, definitely.

@terranMarine , you know what I'm talking about.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Singapore under the Chinese government is the most non racist people in the whole world, and our goodness is not what many racist can fathom. Under the Chinese people, every race have almost equal opportunity (I would say we are not perfect yet).


Malay Muslim Colonel

Chief of Army a Major General is an Indian

Indian Technician in Navy

Malay Muslim seaman

The more non-Chinese you get, the better for us.

Since we are already getting tired to see you guys wanna keep cozying up with us by saying the thing like we are also Chinese blahblahblah.

To me, Singapore is always an alien country, and it will remain so.

 

[terranMarine]

It is **still** a very much xenophobic society. It is not just a Japanese trait, Terry, its a trait of East Asians, i think. Think of it this way, when i went to Korea, i got no stares, perhaps because i can pass for Korean. When I am in China, i get no stares, because I can pass for Chinese.

But if a red headed , blue eyed, freckle-faced Irish American is in Japan, he'll get stared at. In Korea, definitely. In China, definitely.

@terranMarine , you know what I'm talking about.

In China people stare at foreigners because it's out of curiosity, and i'm talking about areas where white people are a rare sight. But when you say if you are dating a foreigner in Japan your own people will stare at you guys lol, maybe not in Tokyo i guess.

But overall i guess East Asians living abroad usually hangs out with their own kind and that's very true generally speaking.

 

[Aepsilons]

In China people stare at foreigners because it's out of curiosity, and i'm talking about areas where white people are a rare sight. But when you say if you are dating a foreigner in Japan your own people will stare at you guys lol, maybe not in Tokyo i guess.

The same in Japan. People will be curious to see anyone that is different looking, and when I say "different" i'm referring to people who don't look East Asian or Oriental looking.

Its almost a double standard. To be honest. If a Japanese guy is with a foreign girl (white girl), then its a symbol of empowerment. But if a Japanese girl is with a foreign guy (white guy, et al), its considered "shameful".

I don't get that bias, and its not fair.

 

[xenon54 out]

I like Singaporian flag for some reason.

 

[terranMarine]

The same in Japan. People will be curious to see anyone that is different looking, and when I say "different" i'm referring to people who don't look East Asian or Oriental looking.

Its almost a double standard. To be honest. If a Japanese guy is with a foreign girl (white girl), then its a symbol of empowerment. But if a Japanese girl is with a foreign guy (white guy, et al), its considered "shameful".

I don't get that bias, and its not fair.

I know what you mean, long time ago i remember chatting with a Japanese girl online and she said her friends didn't like some foreigner trying to hit on her or have a dance with her. They said they wanted her to stay clean , whatever that means. (her exact words).

 

[Aepsilons]

I know what you mean, long time ago i remember chatting with a Japanese girl online and she said her friends didn't like some foreigner trying to hit on her or have a dance with her. They said they wanted her to stay clean , whatever that means. (her exact words).

Yea, its an example of this xenophobiasm. Its so arbitrary and myopic and I hate it, blah blah blah.

For me, love knows no color...

Anyways, i've gone offtopic. Let's get back to Singapore Military now, LOL.

PS. Penpal, you've been chit chattin' with Japanese girls eh? mmhmm......

 

[terranMarine]

Yea, its an example of this xenophobiasm. Its so arbitrary and myopic and I hate it, blah blah blah.

For me, love knows no color...

Anyways, i've gone offtopic. Let's get back to Singapore Military now, LOL.

PS. Penpal, you've been chit chattin' with Japanese girls eh? mmhmm......

as a matter of fact i used to have some Japanese pen pals, so it was quite funny you wanted me to be your pen pal

 

[Aepsilons]

as a matter of fact i used to have some Japanese pen pals, so it was quite funny you wanted me to be your pen pal

LOL!!!

 

[terranMarine]

LOL!!!

still awake at this hour in your home? Saw news it has been snowing a lot in Northern JP

 

[Aepsilons]

still awake at this hour in your home? Saw news it has been snowing a lot in Northern JP

Its 2degs over here. Advanced Merry Christmas to you and your family, Terry.