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LONDON, Jan 27: In a significant development, a broad-based coalition of leading Sikh organisations, based in the Indian state of Punjab as well as representing the worldwide diaspora, has formally asked India to remove all its nuclear weapons and facilities from the ‘Sikh homeland’ and called upon both India and Pakistan to undertake not to target the territory in case of war.A delegation of leading UK-based Sikhs delivered a document setting out their demands to the Indian and Pakistani high commissions in London. It was also delivered to the UN Security Council via the French Embassy, with France currently holding the presidency of that body.

The Sikhs are looking for the UN to intervene on their behalf if the two governments fail to act on their demands. The demands have also been passed to UN’s human rights bodies in Geneva which have been asked to warn the two states against carrying out any crime against humanity in the ‘Sikh Homeland’.

The Sikhs maintain that they are not a party to the Indo-Pak dispute and, as non-combatants in the event of a war between the nuclear rivals, their population centre and homeland should not face what military experts have said is the likely outcome - a theatre of war in Punjab which becomes a nuclear conflict causing horrific casualties on a massive scale.

They say that since 1947 their nation has not had its sovereign rights respected and has been denied the right of self-determination under international law and it is now effectively unable to defend its people and territory from outside attack.


http://dawn.com/2009/01/28/top12.htm
 
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ROFLMAO LOL


Why you laughing? Pakistan doesn't have any problems with Sikhs, we just have problems with Hindu extremists.

Theres many Sikh holy places in Pakistan and Pakistanis never harmed these places..we are not like Hindus who almost tore down Golden Temple in 1984.

Sikhs are right, they have nothing to do with Pakistan-India conflict, they now know the true face of hindus... this conflict is because of hindu extremists.
 
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Why you laughing? Pakistan doesn't have any problems with Sikhs, we just have problems with Hindu extremists.

Theres many Sikh holy places in Pakistan and Pakistanis never harmed these places..we are not like Hindus who almost tore down Golden Temple in 1984.

Sikhs are right, they have nothing to do with Pakistan-India conflict, they now know the true face of hindus... this conflict is because of hindu extremists.

exactly but the problem is incase of war punjab will be the most likely battle ground.
however they shouldnt worry about nuke attacks which will first of all never happen but if they do, God forbid, india and pak will never bomb places close to their border
 
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exactly but the problem is incase of war punjab will be the most likely battle ground.
however they shouldnt worry about nuke attacks which will first of all never happen but if they do, God forbid, india and pak will never bomb places close to their border

I think in case of war, Sikhs will suffer the most because Sikhs' only homeland is Punjab, thats where all their holy sites are and thats where Sikhs come from. Muslims still have Mecca and Medina and theres Muslims all over Middle East and Asia. Hindus still have areas south of Punjab. So Sikhs are worried they'll lose everything if there is a war.

The best solution is for Sikhs to have their own country. Every religion has their own country, Sikhs should be able to also, then they wont have to worry about being in betwen hindu majority India and Pakistan conflict and wont have to worry about Punjab being a battlefield.
 
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This is not Patriotic at all, What about Indian Army there are so many Sikhs in Indian Army.

Excluding Punjab From Indo-Pak Conflict is not possible at all, Because Lahore is the Most Prized Trophy for Indian Army (in there Dreams Only:rofl:) and in order to capture Lahore and Even Islamabad the shortest Distance for Indian Army will be from Indian Punjab.

For Pakistan Army Indian Punjab is Vital For success and to Cut Off supply to Kashmir through Land. The Main Battlegrounds in case of war between India and Pakistan will be areas of Indian and Pakistani Punjab like Sialkot, Chawinda and Amritsar. So there is no Way Sikhs or any other Community can just say that "Please COUNT US OUT FROM YOUR CONFLICTS".

Do Sikhs Really Believe that there will be war Between India and Pakistan soon ? and they want be "Pacifists".

I really Believe in case of War (God Forbid) Sikhs will be on the forefront and they will be the TIP OF THE SPEAR FOR INDIAN ARMY.

On the Other Hand Pakistan Will Have Proud PATHANS To Counter SIKHS and Everybody Knows how big will be the Explosion when these two great Communities will collide, I personally don't want this to happen but IT CAN HAPPEN.
 
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Hindus will not tolarate this.

I really want Indian Prospective on this issue and If we can Find any SIKH on this Forum.

Never Ever Doubt the ALLEGIANCE AND LOYALTY OF SIKHS, Indian Sikhs are Loyal To India and Pakistani Sikhs are Loyal to Pakistan.
 
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I really want Indian Prospective on this issue and If we can Find any SIKH on this Forum.

Never Ever Doubt the ALLEGIANCE AND LOYALTY OF SIKHS, Indian Sikhs are Loyal To India and Pakistani Sikhs are Loyal to Pakistan.

I dont know man...Pakistan has so many Sikh holy sites and Sikhs make less than 1% of Pakistan's population, we never harmed their holy sites. Sikhs all over the world saw what hindus did to their Golden Temple in 1984. I have met some Sikhs in college here who say they are not treated well in India, and their parents have visited Sikh holy sites in Pakistan and were treated better by Pakistanis. I dont think Sikhs are a problem as Hindus are.
 
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Well first things first! Indian punjab is part of India ! Pakistani punjab is part of Pakistan furthermore, in the break of war it is silly to think that one or more parts will not be hit per request we will hit where we want and they will hit where they want! it is WAR it harsh and nothing good but its how it goes so i really think this is silly of sikhs to request now asking and reguesting for a peaceful plan to there gov for both countires to not go to war is more like it ! i do hope for peace and hope it will become a peacful region!
 
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I am really surprised at this and if the report is true, then Sikh troops shouldn't take part in the war even from outside Punjab. And if they don't want to be a party in the Indo-Pak dispute, they should pull out of Kashmir and leave the policing to non-Sikhs.
There is of course no way they will be granted their wishes as Sikhs make up a big part of the Indian armed forces, and Indian Punjab shares a strategic border with Pakistan and Kashmir.

The article reminds me when our tribals instantly devoted entire Lashkars in case of war even as they were being bombarded by the US. But the Sikhs have a point about losing literally everything in case of a war.
 
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Sikhs Proclaim No War
Jagmohan Singh

LONDON: Anyone who thought that Sikhs would sit back and allow India and Pakistan to wage their daily verbal duel and war cries without opprobrium from any quarters is in for a rude shock. Just as civil society in the two countries has geared up to denounce any possibility of war, the Sikhs too, as a people have shown exemplary solidarity to jointly proclaim peace in the Indian sub-continent and ask the two countries not to ignore the sentiments and concerns of the non-combatant Sikh populace in the region.

Continued war mongering between India and Pakistan, which has reached fever pitch since 26/11 has brought about a rare unity amongst Sikh groups from Punjab and across the world seeking intervention of the international community, particularly the United Nations for building public opinion against war between the two countries and usage of nuclear arsenal of the two countries built up by them over the decades.

Making their intentions absolutely clear in unmistakably direct terms, the document submitted by a consortium of 36 Sikh organisations from Punjab, United Kingdom, Canada, Europe and the United States to the Indian, Pakistani and French Embassies on 26 January, calls for immediate de-escalation of the hostile rhetoric between the two countries and urging the international community to do exert diplomatic pressure enabling the two countries to engage in dialogue and avert war, which is likely to bring about nuclear catastrophe in the region, particularly in the homeland of the Sikhs –Punjab.

The Sikh nation, presently sandwiched between the two warring cultures, stands for universal peace and brotherhood. Historically we have been wronged a lot and the present war hysteria, which presents a dangerous situation for the entire region, is likely to engage the Sikh people in their severest test ever and is also likely to annihilate thousands of innocent people on both sides of the Radcliffe line, but the majority of the brunt is likely to be borne by the Sikhs and Punjabis.

Advocate activist Ranjit Singh Srai, who was instrumental in bringing about this rare feat amongst the Sikhs said that, “Sikhs are looking for the UN to intervene on their behalf if the Indian government fails to act on their demands.”

The 36 Sikh organisations which submitted the Appeal

American Gurdwara Prabandakh Committee, Anti-defamation Sikh Council for Freedom of Khalistan, USA, Baba Banda Singh Bahadhur Society Abbotsford, Canada, Council of Khalistan, Dal Khalsa International, UK, Daljit Singh Bittu, Presidium Member, Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar) (Panch Pardhani), Punjab, Dr. Amarjit Singh, Director, Khalistan Affairs Centre, Washington DC, USA, Gurdwara Sahib Kalgidhar Darbar, Abbotsford, Canada, Gurdwara Sahib Dasmesh Darbar, Surrey Canada, International Sikh Youth Federation (Germany), Italy Sikh Council, Justice (Retd.) Ajit Singh Bains, Convenor, Punjab Human Rights Organisation, Kanwarpal Singh, Political Affairs Spokesman, Dal Khalsa, Punjab, Kashmir Singh, Gen-Secretary, British Sikh Federation, Khalistan Government in exile, Khalsa Human Rights, UK, Kulwant Singh Dhesi, British Sikh Council, Mohkam Singh, Convenor Khalsa Action Committee, Punjab, Narain Singh, Shiromani Sikh Council International, Punjab, National Council of Gurdwaras, UK, National Sikh Committee Italy, Navkiran Singh, Advocate, General Secretary, Lawyers for Human Rights International, Punjab, Ontario Gurdwara Committee (OGC), Canada, Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), UK, Shiromani Akali Dal (Punj Pardhani), Canada, Shiromani Akali Dal (Punj Pardhani), France, Shiromani Sikh Council, UK, Sikh Council of Belgium, Sikh Federation (UK), Sikh Foundation Switzerland, Sikh Secretariat, UK, Sikh Youth of America, Simranjit Singh Mann, President, Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), Punjab, United Sikh Federation, Canada, Voices for Freedom, Young Sikhs (UK).

He further pointed that leaving nothing to chance, the list of demands has been forwarded to various UN forums in Geneva as well. On behalf of the multifarious religious, social, human rights and political bodies of the Sikh Nation, the urgent appeal was presented to the embassies in London by Amrik Singh Gill, President Sikh Federation (UK), Amrik Singh Sahota, OBE, President, Council of Khalistan, Balbir Singh, Shiromani Sikh Council, UK, Councillor Gurdial Singh Atwal, Chairman, Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar), UK and Co-ordinator SAD(A) International Committee, Gurmej Singh Gill, Prime Minister, Khalistan Government in Exile and Manmohan Singh, Vice-President Dal Khalsa International.

“Neither India nor Pakistan has been willing to sign up to the UN's non-proliferation regime or unilaterally renounce their nuclear weapons capabilities in order to create a nuclear weapons-free South Asia, underlining their willingness to use such weapons. The Sikhs, for whom the consequences are unimaginable, therefore have no alternative but to appeal to the international community to take immediate steps to stop yet another calamity imminently befalling them” says the well-drafted appeal.

Spelling out the need for such a united step by the Sikhs, the spokesperson said that, Sikhs stood for peace in the Indian sub-continent and wanted the two countries to resolve all disputes politically, taking into account the aspirations of the Sikh nation. He said that if it is not so done as part of a conflict-resolution process, the geo-political situation has the full potential to degenerate into a Gaza-type human rights nightmare for the Sikh people in their homeland Punjab.

Tracing the track of Sikh sufferings from 1947 to the present times, the appeal condemns the consistent denial of the right to self-determination to the Sikhs, upholds Sikh nationhood and proclaims that “Until those sovereign rights are restored, which we submit will help provide an enduring solution to the problems of the region as a whole, it is the duty of the international community to deliver that protection and prevent the potential annihilation of the world’s fifth largest religion.”

Speaking for Sikhs, Muslims, Christians and all others living in this region, this urgent action appeal categorically asks “The UN High Commissioner on Human Rights, the UN Human Rights Commission and other UN bodies to establish a dialogue with Indian and Pakistani leaders to make them fully aware of their human rights obligations towards the Sikhs and to formally warn those leaderships that any breach of international law or mass rights violations in this context will result in action by a duly constituted criminal court.”

When was the last time you came across such a unified Sikh effort? It surely calls for commendation by the Sikhs in Punjab and the Sikh Diaspora across the globe which is ever anxious about the political situation at ground zero in the Sikh homeland.

28 January 2009

http://worldsikhnews.com/28%20January 2009/Sikhs Proclaim No War.htm
 
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No way 100,000's of sikhs will resign, they need to feed their families. Secondly, Indian Punjab is a key War area, cannot be ignored. So this demand is just stupid.
 
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Sikhs urge India to remove nukes from Punjab

LONDON—The international Sikh Diaspora including those based in Indian Punjab has formally asked India to remove all its nuclear weapons and facilities from the Sikh homeland.
A delegation of leading UK based Sikhs delivered a document setting out their demands to the Indian High Commission. The same message was also delivered to the UN Security Council via the French Embassy as France is current President of the body.
Spokesman Ranjit Singh Srai said the Sikhs are looking for the UN to intervene on their behalf if the Indian government fail to act on their demands. The demands have also been passed to the UN’s human rights bodies in Geneva.
On Monday, the members of the Sikh community staged a rally outside the Indian High Commission in Central London, observing the Indian Republic Day as a Black Day in solidarity with the people of Kashmir. The followers of Baba Guru Nanak criticised the Indian Government for subjugating their rights under the international law. Sikh leaders across the world also plan to brief other governments about their concerns. The Sikh delegation also met Pakistan Consul General and stressed on the need of peace in South Asia.

The Daily Mail - Daily News from Pakistan - Newspaper from Pakistan
 
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