Sikhs are much adored in Pakistan

[Tango25]

^Listen mr. Dabong, firstly, you don't know the first thing about Indian legal system.
The term Hindu as per legal definition (which has precedent) includes all dharmic religions of India. This is why Sikh personal laws come under the Hindu personal law. That does not imply that Sikhs are treated as Hindus (in the religious sense) or that they have to follow Hindu religious practices.

What is termed as Hindu personal laws is actually a highly secularized framework of personal laws. Whatever religious component is there, is common to all dharmic religions of India.

So Mr. Tarlochan Singh is basically campaigning for nothing but a change of name. It has zero significance in terms of the substance of the laws. All it will do is add to the paperwork.

Also, this does not imply that Sikhs are classified as a "Hindu Subcaste". I wonder where you got that.

 

[ratolz]

As for you G.K which is quite low, Sikh religion is formed to protect Hindus from Outsiders, they were taken from Hindus.

In their gurugranth, their is also mention of lord Shiva which is Hindu god.

When they demanded to be identified as different religion , Indian Constitution allowed them.....

Show some respect towards SHRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB. And don't throw your judgments why Sikh religion was formed. And who said they were "taken" from hindus?? only hindus? or take? If you need we can talk about it. And i can teach you many things regarding my religion.

Grow up and show some maturity
thanx

 

[Tango25]

As for you G.K which is quite low, Sikh religion is formed to protect Hindus from Outsiders, they were taken from Hindus.

In their gurugranth, their is also mention of lord Shiva which is Hindu god.

When they demanded to be identified as different religion , Indian Constitution allowed them.....

Sikhism was not formed to protect Hindus. It was a path of enlightenment to all humans. Although, Sikhs have given blood to protect our motherland.

Guru Nanak Dev realized the truth and the universal religion. We do not believe in heaven or hell or eternal damnation. We do not believe in apostasy or caste. We believe that God is one and that all men are born equal.

But we are an Indian religion, and our Gurujis learnt many things from the great sages of the past including their mistakes.

We believe that there are many ways to god, and each person is free to choose his path.

The word Sikh comes from Sanskrit shishya - meaning student. So we are eternal students of Waheguru.

 

[Spring Onion]

An intresting post in urdu though. I am too lazy to be translating it.
BBCUrdu.com

Here is the translation

BBC story about Dr. Gulab Singh Shaheen who has been inducted into the Pakistan Punjab traffic police and has become a celebrity on the roads of Lahore where he is quite literally stopping the traffic as Lahoris stop to embrace and greet him.



“Since yesterday, I have been hearing different greetings, such as sat sari kaal, jo bolay so nihal and ballay ballay from car and bus drivers, motorcyclists and children. Lahoris are really very loving people and these are unforgettable moments for me,” remarked Dr Gulab Singh, the first-ever Sikh to be appointed traffic police warden in Pakistan, in an exclusive interview with Daily Times.

Gulab, the 25-year-old Sikh traffic warden, who hails from Nankana Sahib and now lives in Defence Housing Authority, said that joining the force as a sub-inspector was a dream come true for him. Pledging to do his duty wholeheartedly, he said that the loving welcome he had received from the public had added to his joy. He said he had joined his duty station on Wednesday, and by the second day, dozens of children had forced their parents to stop the car so that they could meet him. Singh is deputed on Alif Laam Meem Chowk on Aziz Bhatti Road in Cantt.

Gulab said he was born in Nankana district in January 1982. His father, Manna Singh, is a farmer and a father of seven - five boys and two girls. Gulab is the youngest of the siblings. Gulab completed his matriculation in Nankana district, graudation in Lahore and then received a doctorate in homeopathy from Bahawalpur. Gulab said he also operated a homeopathic clinic, which he might have to shut down because of his new and demanding posting.

Gulab said he applied for the sub-inspector post when announcements inviting applications appeared in newspapers, but did not tell his family. He informed them only after he was appointed, which translated into a delightful surprise for them, he added. Commenting on his training process, Gulab said, “The attitude of my fellow trainees and officers was very good towards me. Nobody ever forced me to do anything against my religious beliefs.” He said he had no problems wearing his kara (bangle), or keeping his kirpan (dagger) on him. He added that, as he was a vegetarian, green meals were arranged for him in the mess during the training period. “I am very grateful to my officers for this gesture,” Gulab said.

Gulab is multilingual and has command over Urdu, Punjabi, Pashto, Seraiki, and Sindhi. He added, “I can also speak English, but not very fluently.” Gulab also said that he was fond of Punjabi bhangra music and that his favourite singers are Abrar-ul-Haq, Harbajhan Maan and Waris Baig. In terms of the future, Gulab said, “I will do my duty honestly, work like a true and dutiful citizen, and dream of a corruption-free atmosphere.”

 

[Gabbar]

As for you G.K which is quite low, Sikh religion is formed to protect Hindus from Outsiders, they were taken from Hindus.

Wrong!!!, Sikhs were formed to protect weak. I can give you example when poor muslim people came to Misil Sardars for protection. Hindus happened to be more opresed at that time, and thats why many battles were faught to protect them.

In their gurugranth, their is also mention of lord Shiva which is Hindu god.

There is also word "Allah" mentioned many times. It does not mean it relate closer to other religion compared to the other.

EX: Aval Allah noor upaaeiaa kudrat ke sab bandey ||
Ek noor te sab jag upajaiaa koun bhalae ko mande ?

First, Allah created the Light;
then, by His Creative Power, He made all mortal beings.
From the One Light, the entire universe welled up.
So who is good, and who is bad? ||1||

When they demanded to be identified as different religion , Indian Constitution allowed them...

Sikh marriges are undered Hindu marrige act, as a sect of Hindu religion. (PS: Nothing agians Hindu religion)

PLEASE TRY TO STICK TO TOPIC PEOPLE!!!​

 

[Tango25]

Although sikhism and hinduism are different religions...both of them have many things in common and sikhs and hindus respect each other a lot.Sikhism has always been a part of hindu ideology.

Sikhism is a Dharmic religion, i.e. we believe in karma and reincarnation.

We do not worship Hindu gods, but many Hindus regard Sikh Gurus as saints.

I don't know what you mean by "Hindu Ideology". Sikhism has its own ideology.

 

[WarProfessor]

I also seemed to me that Sikhs are less flexible compared to other people. Their traits can be used by them to do a lot of good things, but if it went wrong, it seems to me that only force can turn them around, I hope I was wrong.

On a side note: Sikhs are used by the British to serve their interest in China in colonial times in Shanghai. For majority of people in China, their perception of Indians are actually these Sikhs and the stories they've heard in China is actually about this minority group in India.

I knew there are a lot of bad-taste jokes about them in India, I don't know if things have changed in nearly 20 years.

Just a few observations to share.

 

[Tango25]

I also seemed to me that Sikhs are less flexible compared to other people. Their traits can be used by them to do a lot of good things, but if it went wrong, it seems to me that only force can turn them around, I hope I was wrong.

Not true at all. Sikhs are very generous and accommodating people.

On a side note: Sikhs are used by the British to serve their interest in China in colonial times in Shanghai. For majority of people in China, their perception of Indians are actually these Sikhs and the stories they've heard in China is actually about this minority group in India.

Sikhs played a major role during the World War period in the British Indian Army. The British had recruited many Sikhs from villages to join the fight, because of their "martial race" theories.

I knew there are a lot of bad-taste jokes about them in India, I don't know if things have changed in nearly 20 years.

Just a few observations to share.

We love to laugh at ourselves. We can, because we are a self-confident lot, and not steeped in insecurities.

 

[dabong1]

^Listen mr. Dabong, firstly, you don't know the first thing about Indian legal system.
The term Hindu as per legal definition (which has precedent) includes all dharmic religions of India. This is why Sikh personal laws come under the Hindu personal law. That does not imply that Sikhs are treated as Hindus (in the religious sense) or that they have to follow Hindu religious practices.

What is termed as Hindu personal laws is actually a highly secularized framework of personal laws. Whatever religious component is there, is common to all dharmic religions of India.

So Mr. Tarlochan Singh is basically campaigning for nothing but a change of name. It has zero significance in terms of the substance of the laws. All it will do is add to the paperwork.

Also, this does not imply that Sikhs are classified as a "Hindu Subcaste". I wonder where you got that.

LOL.....So the sikhs are classed as hindus.

 

[Tango25]

LOL.....So the sikhs are classed as hindus.

With all due respect dabong, are you a child? Can you not understand a complex argument?
I have stated my case very well, and you choose to reply with the juvenile retort "LOL...so the sikhs are classed as hindus".

Either you are deliberately trying to insult, or you are incapable of comprehension.

Take your pick.

And you are not the first person on this forum who exhibits such behavior either.

 

[vandemataram]

i am not he i am A GIRL


Secondly your post should be taken care of by the mods its off topic.

Balochs and Afghan issues are separate things.

Still if you are comparing BLA terrorists with Sikhs and brutal killers from Dostam or NA with Sikhs than pitty on you.


We adore Sikhs for many good reasons while you adore BLA terrorists for terrorism in Pakistan .

Sikhs are not terrorists while BLA people are.

Well if you arew a girl and that finds mention here as a special anecdote, let me be particularly polite to you, lest you might be offended...

let me tell you ..Jarnail Bhindrawale was a religious extremist...so we had to do away with him..

 

[Gabbar]

PLEASE READ THE TITLE OF THIS THREAD AND TRY TO STICK TO THE TOPIC!!!

Mods please monitor this thread, we should close this thread if people having such a hard time sticking to topic.

 

[sadiqams]

Sikhs can marry as Sikhs in Pakistan and under their own rules etc.

 

[paritosh]

Sikhs can marry as Sikhs in Pakistan and under their own rules etc.

and you've been to how many Sikh marriages?
the similarities between Hindu and Sikhs(all respect to both the religions) are seen in their marriages too...The Anand Karaj is prevalent in India...

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Really? Then I wonder why I don't see more 'Hindus are much adored in Pakistan' threads? Don't they form a bigger minority than Sikhs in Pakistan.

SO you are basing an opinion on how many threads of this vs that exist, or atleast you have come across? What exactly does that have to do with my rejoinder to you on how this is not a thread on Indian Sikhs?

Don't try to BS me Sir. The lead article itself makes the intentions clear by stating that Sikhs feel love for Pakistan because they are mistreated in India, making a pointed reference to op. Bluestar.

Why is this persecution mentality so pervasive? Does everyone who loves Pakistan have to be "mistreated" by India first?

That is only one aspect of the article, had you chosen to read the rest of it you would have seen the other reasons mentioned, but then that would not fit in with your attempt to twist the narrative and hijack the thread, which you appear to have done very well.

So please, if you want Indians to believe that this thread is about Pakistani Sikhs being loved in Pakistan, next time, try to find a less India-centric reason for that love.

If you read the entire article you'll fine the 'less India centric reasons' - but again, you have to actually read it without the intention of distorting the narrative to fit your own prejudiced opinions about Pakistan.