Sikh pilgrims cross the border

[RazPaK]

It is a matter of national interest and security. Pakistan is not your country so you shouldn't be so bothered by what Pakistan should do for its interests.

I will repeat if it was up to me I would ban the Sikhs from their Holy site, no foolish and kindhearted "goodwill" gestures from me, that is for the weak. It is also a matter of public health most likely many of them are unvaccinated and we can't have the spread of diseases from Hind coming across the border.

As a matter of fact genmiraborgza is a Pakistani. According to our late Jinnah, genmirajborg has more of a right than any of us to be called a Pakistani.

True story.

 

[A1Kaid]

As a matter of fact genmiraborgza is a Pakistani. According to our late Jinnah, genmirajborg has more of a right than any of us to be called a Pakistani.

True story.

By nationality and technicality and by birth, none of the above. Also according to our late Jinnah, he doesn't have more of a "right", seriously at what point did you think that was a good idea to say? Lol. I hope that's not what they teach at NYU South Asian Studies lol jk. Either way it's best not to go off topic.

 

[RazPaK]

By nationality and technicality and by birth, none of the above. Also according to our late Jinnah, he doesn't have more of a "right", seriously at what point did you think that was a good idea to say? Lol. I hope that's not what they teach at NYU South Asian Studies lol jk. Either way it's best not to go off topic.

His family was promised into Pakistan, but betrayed by our leaders.

I said what I said on the founding principles of our nation. The only reason he has more of a right, is because our country turned their backs on him and thousands more.

On topic, Why would you want to ban the Sikhs from visiting their holy sights?

 

[A1Kaid]

His family was promised into Pakistan, but betrayed by our leaders.

Due to the change in political dynamics, the legality and eligibility of Pakistani identity has changed, I don't want to elaborate that would be digressing. Now can we please get back on topic?

His family was promised into Pakistan, but betrayed by our leaders.

I said what I said on the founding principles of our nation. The only reason he has more of a right, is because our country turned their backs on him and thousands more.

On topic, Why would you want to ban the Sikhs from visiting their holy sights?

On topic, Why would you want to ban the Sikhs from visiting their holy sights?

One, I don't like them. That good enough of a reason for you? It is for me.

Two, National security risks.

Three, Public health concern.

Fourth, Political conflict with their country of origin. Denial of Kashmiri self-determination should result in denial of Sikh or Indian entry into Pakistan.

Fifth, historical reasons.

 

[RazPaK]

Due to the change in political dynamics, the legality and eligibility of Pakistani identity has changed, I don't want to elaborate that would be digressing. Now can we please get back on topic?

Haha. Conveniently closing the door on stranded citizens and banning Sikhs from visiting their Holy sights?


My oh my. Jinnah would be turning in his grave.

One, I don't like them. That good enough of a reason for you? It is for me.

Two, National security risks.

Three, Public health concern.

Fourth, Political conflict with their country of origin. Denial of Kashmiri self-determination should result in denial of Sikh or Indian entry into Pakistan.

Fifth, historical reasons.

Would you really want to become like the enemy just to spite them?

And here I always thought Pakistanis should have standards. (Not referring to you)

 

[A1Kaid]

Not really, Pakistan isn't the only home for Muslims in south Asia, Bangladesh is too, so Bangladesh is fine accommodation. Just different name..lol see Jinnah had not count on there being two Muslim countries in So. Asia, that became reality so the dynamic changed.

 

[RazPaK]

Not really, Pakistan isn't the only home for Muslims in south Asia, Bangladesh is too, so Bangladesh is fine accommodation. Just different name..lol

Let's just wrap it up and agree to disagree. Anyways loving your avatar. Bear Grylls is awesome.

 

[Porus]

Not really, Pakistan isn't the only home for Muslims in south Asia, Bangladesh is too, so Bangladesh is fine accommodation. Just different name..lol see Jinnah had not count on there being two Muslim countries in So. Asia, that became reality so the dynamic changed.

You are right and I get your point but you are wasting your time arguing with mutala e Pakistan educated folks here. I also don't understand what is so special about their visit? Don't they come and go every year and most of the country, apart from some parts of Punjab, doesn't even know why they come, when they come and when they go back.

 

[RazPaK]

You are right and I get your point but you are wasting your time arguing with mutala e Pakistan educated folks here. I also don't understand what is so special about their visit? Don't they come and go every year and most of the country, apart from some parts of Punjab, doesn't even know why they come, when they come and when they go back.

And what if you were denied access to pilgrimage?

 

[A1Kaid]

And what if you were denied access to pilgrimage?

What if you were denied self-determination? Listen Raz stop arguing against this. Pakistan should ban entry of all persons from the enemy territory, we have serious unresolved hostilities. Denial of Kashmiri self-determination should result in denial of Sikh pilgrimage and entry of any persons from enemy territory. It's simple.

The position is done in solidarity with Kashmiri sensitivity in mind. Also the other reasons I mentioned in my earlier post.

The Sikhs should have thought about their precious pilgrimage before they decided to take up arms and be hostile to Pakistan.

 

[RazPaK]

What if you were denied self-determination? Listen Raz stop arguing against this. Pakistan should ban entry of all persons from the enemy territory, we have serious unresolved hostilities. Denial of Kashmiri self-determination should result in denial of Sikh pilgrimage and entry of any persona from enemy territory. It's simple.

The position is done in solidarity with Kashmiri sensitivity in mind.

Bah, I am in no way partial towards India. In fact, I'm probably the farthest person from anybody else to ever make friends with India. In fact, my family has been murdered by some of these very same Sikhs that may come to Pakistan.

My grandfather's side of the family has come from Jammu, and I support the Kashmiris with everything I have.

The only problem I see is using somebody's religious site as leverage against their nation. It seems like a very scummy and cowardly thing to do.


You want to fight the Indians? Let's do it with class, because I want a perfect victory. Let's lead by example instead of following the enemy's sub-standard example.

We are after all, Pakistanis.

 

[A1Kaid]

Bah, I am in no way partial towards India. In fact, I'm probably the farthest person from anybody else to ever make friends with India. In fact, my family has been murdered by some of these very same Sikhs that may come to Pakistan.

My grandfather's side of the family has come from Jammu, and I support the Kashmiris with everything I have.

The only problem I see is using somebody's religious site as leverage against their nation. It seems like a very scummy thing to do.

What is more "scummy" is to wage hostility against the same nation that is home to your "holy site". You shouldn't get a religion by pass free card.

As I said before "The Sikhs should have thought about their precious pilgrimage before they decided to take up arms and be hostile to Pakistan."


You want to wage aggression and hostility and hatred against Pakistan, and yet still be allowed to enter Pakistan for pilgrimage each year?! Yeah right. They're lucky we don't demolish that holy site of there's because we could do that if we wanted to, it could be gone by tomorrow if we willed it.

 

[RazPaK]

What is more "scummy" is to wage hostility against the same nation that is home to your "holy site". You shouldn't get a religion by pass free card.

As I said before "The Sikhs should have thought about their precious pilgrimage before they decided to take up arms and be hostile to Pakistan."


You want to wage aggression and hostility and hatred against Pakistan, and yet still be allowed to enter Pakistan for pilgrimage each year?! Yeah right. They're lucky we don't demolish that holy site of there's because we could do that if we wanted to, it could be gone by tomorrow if we willed it.

Damn son. Watch out for the Ultra-Nationalist. Haha.

I can see where you're coming from and at one time I used to feel like that. Again I'm just going to leave this at where it is. Our opinions are different, but I'm proud of you for the way you love our country. Everybody else can make their own decision.

 

[Roybot]

A1 Kaid talks like no Pakistani ever comes to India. More Pakistanis come to India than Indians who go to Pakistan, so how about ask your countrymen to stop travelling to enemy country

 

[RazPaK]

A1 Kaid talks like no Pakistani ever comes to India. More Pakistanis come to India than Indians who go to Pakistan, so how about ask your countrymen to stop travelling to enemy country

I don't think Pakistanis should even have the option of going to India.