The pages in that book clearly say Sunnis are kafir for rejecting Mirza sahib. There is no doubt about what Mirza Bashiruddin is saying. Its simple English, including its context. Anyone can see. There is no possibilities of interpretation here.
And what you are saying is that they are still not non-Muslim. You are contradicting Mirza Bashiruddin.
Well for one, you clearly stated that Ahmadis' say that Sunnis can never go to heaven and I reject that as no Ahmadi has ever said that. As for people who reject Mirza Sahib (as), then yes they are committing kufr. And yes, Ahmadi beliefs have also been that there are different standards of Kufr.
But you seems to have jumped on one single sentence from one single book and have not clearly looked at the beliefs of Ahmadis. So let me explain to you, because the question you are bringing up is not a new one. In 1974, the assembly that declared us kafir kept repeating the same thing, that Ahmadis declared non Ahmadis kafir etc.
The Ahmadiyya point of view on this matter can be summed up by two phrases used by Imam Raghib in his Mufridaat
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Doon-ul-Eeman: Those Muslims who are at a lower standard of faith; i.e., they are Muslims because they profess to be Muslims.
Fawq-ul-Eeman: Those Muslims who are at a distinguished standard of faith. i.e., they try to fulfill all of the criteria set in the Quran to attain spiritual distinction in the eyes of God.
Kufr (denial) has many degrees. A person can commit kufr though their actions while still professing to be a Muslim. For example, someone who does not offer his daily prayers becomes a Kafir. Sahih Muslim, the second most authentic book of Hadith has a chapter on this topic. But does this mean that all those who miss a single prayer in their life become Non-Muslims?
Imam Ibn-e-Taimiyyah, a famous Jurist who is held in high esteem by most orthodox Sunni sects, also held the same belief. The following statement from his book was quoted by the Khalifatul Masih III in his statement during the proceedings in the assembly:
"One type of Kufr causes the person to be removed from the Millat (Nation/Ummah) whereas the other type of Kufr does not." (Kitab-ul-Eeman, page 171).
Our beliefs are the same. Anyone who professes to be a Muslim, we accept that they are Muslims but as I have stated above, that does not mean they are not committing Kufr.
The pages in that book clearly say Sunnis are kafir for rejecting Mirza sahib. There is no doubt about what Mirza Bashiruddin is saying. Its simple English, including its context. Anyone can see. There is no possibilities of interpretation here.
And what you are saying is that they are still not non-Muslim. You are contradicting Mirza Bashiruddin.
Well for one, you clearly stated that Ahmadis' say that Sunnis can never go to heaven and I reject that as no Ahmadi has ever said that. As for people who reject Mirza Sahib (as), then yes they are committing kufr. And yes, Ahmadi beliefs have also been that there are different standards of Kufr.
But you seems to have jumped on one single sentence from one single book and have not clearly looked at the beliefs of Ahmadis. So let me explain to you, because the question you are bringing up is not a new one. In 1974, the assembly that declared us kafir kept repeating the same thing, that Ahmadis declared non Ahmadis kafir etc.
The Ahmadiyya point of view on this matter can be summed up by two phrases used by Imam Raghib in his Mufridaat
.
Doon-ul-Eeman: Those Muslims who are at a lower standard of faith; i.e., they are Muslims because they profess to be Muslims.
Fawq-ul-Eeman: Those Muslims who are at a distinguished standard of faith. i.e., they try to fulfill all of the criteria set in the Quran to attain spiritual distinction in the eyes of God.
Kufr (denial) has many degrees. A person can commit kufr though their actions while still professing to be a Muslim. For example, someone who does not offer his daily prayers becomes a Kafir. Sahih Muslim, the second most authentic book of Hadith has a chapter on this topic. But does this mean that all those who miss a single prayer in their life become Non-Muslims?
Imam Ibn-e-Taimiyyah, a famous Jurist who is held in high esteem by most orthodox Sunni sects, also held the same belief. The following statement from his book was quoted by the Khalifatul Masih III in his statement during the proceedings in the assembly:
"One type of Kufr causes the person to be removed from the Millat (Nation/Ummah) whereas the other type of Kufr does not." (Kitab-ul-Eeman, page 171).
Our beliefs are the same. Anyone who professes to be a Muslim, we accept that they are Muslims but as I have stated above, that does not mean they are not committing Kufr.