Signing of defense cooperation agreement with France

[Bilal9]

Abaro proman holo , you have one of the sanest brain in this forum!

We won't seek for battle with anyone , but we must be prepared and also must not buy something that's alright own by others in this disturbing region!

@Atlas bhai - manlam, kintu nai mamar cheye kana mama bhalo na? IFF ar weapons package alada kora jabena? Amader choice to limited.

Hasina to parley amader shenabahini oder shathey jukto kore dai.

 

[VikingRaider]

I opined that BD will probably buy French Rafael planes and in order to balance this purchase from France,

Well unless Bangladeshi authority has literally tuned in to , "Concubine" of India , they won't buy Rafale!

@Atlas bhai - manlam, kintu nai mamar cheye kana mama bhalo na?

Na bhai Kono vabei bhalo na. Rafale kena mane suicide kora. Duniyate aro plane ase. Rafale kena lagbe ken?

Even Pakistani plane will serve us better than Rafale. What's the guarantee that France will not betray us , when we need them the most?

Mohabharat poresen @Bilal9 bhai?

Korno kintu dorkarer somoye brahmastra ( ব্রহ্মাস্ত্র) vule gesilo rishir ovishap a.

Bangladesh kintu asole karna er desh . Se silo angaraj.

Mahabharata ke khub kalponik na bole ekta kutnoitik boi vaben , bapar ta aro sohoj hobe.

Zai hok eta strictly Amar personal opinion. But ektu chinta kore dekhar request korchhi.

যুদ্ধ বিমান কিন্তু চাল ডাল, মাছ মাংস, ডিম দুধ না যে আমরা প্রতিদিন কিনতে পারব। এটা দেশের সার্বভৌমত্বের ব্যাপার। একটু ভেবে দেখেন প্লিজ!

কানা মামা আসলে তেমন লাভ নেই।আমি৷ বরং বলব যে দুষ্ট গরুর চেয়ে শুন্য গোয়াল ভাল।

কারন শুন্য গোয়ালে আপনি দেখে শুনে ভাল গরু আনতে পারবেন।

@Bilal9 Bhai!

 

[VikingRaider]

Hasina to parley amader shenabahini oder shathey jukto kore dai.

@Bilal9 ভাই, এগুলো বাজারে বিক্রির জন্য জনপ্রিয় গুজব। হাসিনা সরাসরি ভারত বিরোধিতা করলে,শুধু ক্ষমতাই না প্রাণ টাও হারাতে পারে তার বাবার মত!

হাসিনা যা করে সেটা পিউর ডিপ্লোম্যাসি! আস্তে আস্তে আরো প্রমাণ পাবেন।

ইতিমধ্যেই দেখেছেন যে হাসিনাকে সরাতে ভারত কিভাবে আরেকটু হলেই সারা বাংলাদেশে সাম্প্রদায়িক দাঙ্গা বাধিয়ে দিচ্ছিল।

হাসিনাও কিন্তু ভারত কে সরসরি যে কড়া মেসেজ দিয়েছে, যা এর আগে কোন সরকারই দেয়নি!

 

[bluesky]

Well unless Bangladeshi authority has literally tuned in to , "Concubine" of India , they won't buy Rafale!

You are talking absurdly. What is the relationship between Indian purchases of Rafael with BD purchases?

You can rest assured that BD planes will be fitted with a separate system of electronics gadgets different from the IAF ones. So, the body and engine/ engine parts remain the same. but the operational methods become different.

Our BAF engineers are already busy with the preparation of BAF's own Specifications.

 

[ARMalik]

BD will get absolutely screwed by these expensive FRENCH FRIES. By the way, this is same country France which allows bad mouthing of Prophet Muhammad, and bans Muslims for practicing. ... so good luck with your deals with these French bastar.ds.

 

[Bilal9]

@Bilal9 ভাই, এগুলো বাজারে বিক্রির জন্য জনপ্রিয় গুজব। হাসিনা সরাসরি ভারত বিরোধিতা করলে,শুধু ক্ষমতাই না প্রাণ টাও হারাতে পারে তার বাবার মত!

হাসিনা যা করে সেটা পিউর ডিপ্লোম্যাসি! আস্তে আস্তে আরো প্রমাণ পাবেন।

ইতিমধ্যেই দেখেছেন যে হাসিনাকে সরাতে ভারত কিভাবে আরেকটু হলেই সারা বাংলাদেশে সাম্প্রদায়িক দাঙ্গা বাধিয়ে দিচ্ছিল।

হাসিনাও কিন্তু ভারত কে সরসরি যে কড়া মেসেজ দিয়েছে, যা এর আগে কোন সরকারই দেয়নি!

You are aboslutely right! Hoq kotha...

 

[VikingRaider]

You are talking absurdly. What is the relationship between Indian purchases of Rafael with BD purchases?

I don't know if I'm absurd or not , but there is indeed a relationship. India wanted to buy 126 first. Now getting 36 with more price. That means they are going to get them with technology transfer! So why Bangladesh will buy such thing, give me a good reason.

Well if you believe that India is really spouse of Bangladesh then it's different topic. There shall be no space for argument left then.

You can rest assured that BD planes will be fitted with a separate system of electronics gadgets different from the IAF ones. So, the body and engine/ engine parts remain the same. but the operational methods become different.

Our BAF engineers are already busy with the preparation of BAF's own Specifications.

I'm no defense specialist or researcher , neither you are.

So well , I will only strictly accept opinion of any defense specialist.

I will look for it ,I hope in few days there shall be many opinions.

If it is 100% guaranteed that if there will be a war between India and Bangladesh, and we can make our own aircraft instead of depending on dessault aviation, maybe only we can take it positively , otherwise not.

And finally authority is neither going to get my opinion,nor yours ,so it's better let's wait and see.

But if we don't get technology transfer and can make it with our own country , and have to rely on France in future, I don't think that we will remain secured .

France will take India side as India has bigger pocket.

However,if we buy few planes only to know how it works , then we can buy and we can go for typhoon then.

But do you think India will let France do so?

I don't think so!

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

I still hope we buy modern single engine fighter

i still hope we are buying fighters.
at this point , everyones fed up with the MRCA drama ,just buy something man , anything.

If BD must buy major French weapons systems then I would prefer frigates and not fighter aircraft.

BD might get the worst of both worlds, it should have been fighters from britain and frigates from France/Italy ( Italo-French designs are better)

 

[F-6 enthusiast]

I am against BD being pressured into buying sensitive equipment just because we have a trade surplus.

Italy ,Germany ,Spain are also EU members so they have equal if not more influence in EU granting trade concessions than la france.

imo it all comes down to price of acquisition and maintenance (if that's the case , then why are we even bothering with EFT/raffle ? why not gripen ?)

even if the french give some discounts , they will recuperate their losses in the next round of weapons packages/spares/training , shady businessmen.

i don't trust them one bit, not that it matters tbh.

 

[lonelyman]

Bangladesh and France emphasized trade, investment and defense cooperation to strengthen their bilateral cooperation. As part of this, the two countries signed a memorandum of understanding on defense cooperation after a meeting with French President Emmanuel Macho at the Elysee Palace in Paris on Tuesday. A diplomatic source from Paris gave this information about the meeting of the two top leaders in the first light yesterday.
According to sources, the two countries have signed a memorandum of understanding on defense cooperation, which includes issues such as modern training as well as technology exchange to enhance the efficiency of Bangladesh's armed forces. In this connection, the possibility of the two countries moving to a new legal framework for defense cooperation cannot be ruled out, the concerned officials have hinted to this reporter.
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Sources in Paris said that in order to take the Dhaka-Paris relationship to the next level, economic cooperation, especially trade, increased investment as well as defense cooperation. For a couple of years now, France has been raising the issue of defense cooperation with Bangladesh, especially the sale of fighter jets. French Defense Minister Florence Pearl came to Dhaka last year and requested Sheikh Hasina to sell Daso Rafale. Florence Pearl is scheduled to pay a courtesy call on Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina in Paris on Wednesday. As a result, the issue of arms sales will also come up in that discussion.


During her five-day visit to Paris, French Defense Minister Florence Pearl will pay a courtesy call on Bangladesh Prime Minister Sheikh Hasina. In that discussion, the Minister of Defense of France will give priority to the sale of fighter jets (Rafale) to Bangladesh. The Prime Minister of Bangladesh will be accorded a reception in the Senate, the upper house of the French Parliament.

According to the draft schedule, a high-level delegation from the Movement of the Enterprise of France (MEDEF), one of the leading business organizations in France, will meet the Prime Minister of Bangladesh.

ফ্রান্সের সঙ্গে প্রতিরক্ষা সহযোগিতার সম্মতিপত্র সই

দুই শীর্ষ নেতার বৈঠক শেষে প্রচারিত যৌথ ঘোষণায় প্রতিরক্ষা ও নিরাপত্তা সহযোগিতার বিষয়টি গুরুত্বের সঙ্গে এসেছে। দুই দেশ প্রতিরক্ষা ও নিরাপত্তা সহযোগিতা বাড়াতে একমত হয়েছে। এ ক্ষেত্রে সহযোগিতা বাড়ানোর লক্ষ্য নিয়মিত আলোচনা ও প্রশিক্ষণের আয়োজন করা হবে। প্রয়োজনে সামর্থ্য অনুযায়ী একপক্ষের চাহিদা অনুযায়ী...

www.prothomalo.com

what happens to pajeets say rafalre is hindu god plan when Bangladeshi bought it

 

[Bilal9]

Italy ,Germany ,Spain are also EU members so they have equal if not more influence in EU granting trade concessions than la france.

imo it all comes down to price of acquisition and maintenance (if that's the case , then why are we even bothering with EFT/raffle ? why not gripen ?)

even if the french give some discounts , they will recuperate their losses in the next round of weapons packages/spares/training , shady businessmen.

i don't trust them one bit, not that it matters tbh.

They have to run their country and their expensive habits.

Colonies are gone, only pseudo-colonies like us are left.

They order our leaders around more or less. Sad.

 

[bluesky]

I'm no defense specialist or researcher , neither you are.

If no specialist, but people should have common sense. Do you think Modi is a Salesman for the French President Macron that Modi forced Hasina Bibi to buy Rafael?

How about five frigates from the UK? Is it also because Modi is working for the UK? You are out of your mind. You say something without basic logic.

Can you tell me how much commission Modi received from Macron? Please tell us this. If no such hidden information or a phone call from Modi himself to you, please stop insisting on your point that Modi the Salesman for France is influencing BD.

By the way, when BD will start a war against India when It does not even have the muscle to talk eye to eye with Burma, and here you are talking stupid things like BD will wage against India, and with Rafael, BD cannot do it.

You are overdreaming, but don't forget to call me when BD attacks India. I will participate in that war.

 

[mb444]

It's Rafale no Rafael. Rafael is an Israeli firm.

What was so funny? The French are not known for humour.

I am against BD being pressured into buying sensitive equipment just because we have a trade surplus.
I don't want Rafales because of India's influence on Dassault as a major customer. Having said that we are buying other equipment from them so I don't think not buying Rafales will be the end of the world.

I still hope we buy modern single engine fighters first but the possibility is bleak.

I dont buy this line of thought that UK or france can force us to buy anything to balance a trade surplus.

Why is there a trade surplus? Because we are are the cheapest and the best in terms of products they buy from us. They will move to others if they get a better price.

Can we say to france they must continue to buy our product if we lose competitive advantage in return for purchasing the rafale. As ridiculous as that proposition is it is same as france saying buy our jet because there is a trade surplus.

France can always reduce the trade surplus by going and buying goods from sources more expensive than BD. I am sure that would benefit them a lot.

Gibberish from the resident hindtva nut from japan.

 

[VikingRaider]

If no specialist, but people should have common sense. Do you think Modi is a Salesman for the French President Macron that Modi forced Hasina Bibi to buy Rafael?

How about five frigates from the UK? Is it also because Modi is working for the UK? You are out of your mind. You say something without basic logic.

Can you tell me how much commission Modi received from Macron? Please tell us this. If no such hidden information or a phone call from Modi himself to you, please stop insisting on your point that Modi the Salesman for France is influencing BD.

By the way, when BD will start war against India when It does not have the muscle to talk eye to eye with Burma and here you are talking stupid things like India is a rival of BD.

You are overdreaming, but don't forget to call me when BD attacks India. I will participate in that war.

People with common sense always read/hear properly before reply.

Read my message again and then reply to the point. Banglish (বাংলিশ) a lekha ase @Bilal9 bhai ke deya reply te! Thank you!

 

[Destranator]

I dont buy this line of thought that UK or france can force us to buy anything to balance a trade surplus.

Why is there a trade surplus? Because we are are the cheapest and the best in terms of products they buy from us. They will move to others if they get a better price.

Can we say to france they must continue to buy our product if we lose competitive advantage in return for purchasing the rafale. As ridiculous as that proposition is it is same as france saying buy our jet because there is a trade surplus.

France can always reduce the trade surplus by going and buying goods from sources more expensive than BD. I am sure that would benefit them a lot.

Gibberish from the resident hindtva nut from japan.

I really doubt not buying Rafales alone will irk the French govt enough to force French designer brands and retailers to divert their garments orders away - this will hurt these businesses in the short run.
The French are not stupid, they know they can keep selling radars and other high value equipment to BD's technologically deficient military.