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Most respectfully,Shurrp Americans:enjoy: a voice commonly heard from every Pakistani when "someone" pokes in our matters unnecessarily:p: no joking, really!
 
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And it was the SAME United States that you shut your doors on for SIX months when the Civilian Government complained about the unfortunate incident that happened at a check post.....so how come the US didn't attack??? Because you have to have democratic people that can negotiate, explain and get things done the right way and that's ONLY Civilians. Military produces the best soldiers, not the Economists, Politicians or the Businessmen. Different expertise.
Bold part not correct .. which is biggest conglomerate in Pak ? Fauji Foundation - Directory
 
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It will take much more than guts or will to wean Pakistan off the foreign aid teat. It will take real economic progress, and that will take much more than just one man, be it IK or anyone else, to deliver that, and even then it will decades to achieve.

In short, when Uncle Sam speaks, Pakistan will listen for years and years to come.

Bangladesh and Sri Lanka don't survive on American breast milk and they've survived decades without them.

Pakistani military just needs some ghairat...
 
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I don't consider America to be a big threat to Pak's politics and stability, I mean yes, they do interfere in many countries including Pak, but that's only because ppl of Pak gov (mostly for their own benefit or due to lack of spine) allow them to interfere. If our ppl takes firm stance on no interference from anyone, I believe no one will be able to do anything.
 
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Imran Khan's focus is Local Social Work , has nothing to do with USA
With 90% of focus for party is Social work , and 10% perhaps international affairs

He is standing for what he believes and is there to support the cause for Raising concern against Killing and Rigging in country



Translation of Imran Khan September 3rd speech
English Translation added , to help Non Urdu speaking people to understand Imran Khan's vision and what he is really trying to change in country


Revision #2.0 , My first translation was a quick draft , I just reworked the speech a bit better
so it more easily understandable in English

When , with in a nation comes such a Revolution of people
During such time , the battle is between 2 groups. One is
the Pakistani Citizens, the citizens who lack Rights , who
are doing 2 Jobs working 15 hours a day yet they can't earn a living.
Their, kids can't go to school. When their kids go to schools there
are no teaches in the government schools. When they go to Hospitals
we all know what is the state of our hospitals. Who would believe that in Rawalpindi we have
a large hospital yet there are deaths that occur due to lack of facilities and doctors

In mianwali , as a member of Parliment, when I visited the small towns.
I noticed, living standards of humans were same as , an animal. There was no
difference between how animals were living they shared the same places for
drinking water and dwellings. Most Pakistani children , face death due to
drinking contaminated water, another comparative ratio is that country with most children left out of school is also Pakistan.

I have seen how our Judicial system treats the poor , once I saw it first hand in rural areas.
I knew , the battle is between one side the Citizens and other side
includes hand full of Wealthy class. The term is called status qou , as used in France.

In Pakistan , we have mostly 500 people , who control the nation. Some put on the robe of
a secularism , some of them become fake Religious fanatic leader. They all come together when it benefits their own personal agenda and goals. And they each help each other out when in need as long as they stay in power.

Pause...

Allah says , having respect and prestige or not having it is granted by him, I want to ask you
Religious leaders what does it means ?? It means God decides who gets this honor. I want to get this message across.


When their status quo is challenged , these so called right and left wing folks spew poison
You people here in audience have challenged them. Your Movement, this movement has caused them to panic and in this panic they spew poison against your wishes

Why are they all spewing POISON??? Can you answer me what have we done wrong?

We went to Courts , and Tribunal , and Parliament to demand one thing

We demanded

"We faced rigged elections, please give us justice".

And we / I have been saying that all along, if you did no provide me justice in courts I will go on the roads in peaceful demonstrations. When they did not provided the justice I came out in the roads. And I tried the avenue of negotiation and discussion in courts, Tribunal and Parliament.

When you don't give any rights to a person , your worth is that of a wild animal , an animal never demands their rights.

We are humans , we demand our Human Rights , your rights that you
deserve and this is what our Movement is for.

What do I feel happy / good , because now its clear , I can see clearly who are
in favor of change , and justice and who are not for such system and prefer the old system

Even inside the parliament its becoming obvious who are the people, that are Pro Change , and respect wishes of People , and who are guardians of Old corrupt system.


The politicians in the Parliament are motivated by Fear, and in this fear they speak and spit sliva out of their mouth because they can't contain their emotions. They are fearful of change and the parliament is divided some want change while others cling on to old system.
There is divide, I get 100 text messages in hour. It tells me in hour what is happening in Pakistan and I can feel the change.


Some people (Who benefit from the corruption) tell me give up, why are you creating problems our business is not doing well , our kids are not going to school. I ask them a simple question
Are there any schools in our demonstration zones ? No I ask them another question
Are there any shops that are closed and that exist in demonstration zones ? No there are no shops so their arguments are false. We did not close schools or businesses.


Let me tell you about a time when I was giving speech in Karachi against drone attack on civilians. A person came to me and asked me , a question Sir why do you bother with speeches against done attacks all it does is that it clogs up traffic in main roads. I can't get to my home ?

I asked him , imagine if you went home son, and you reached home and found that someone bombed your home. Would you then care about the traffic ? Or then you would have reason to care about drone attacks? Against civilians


Does anyone ever bother to ask , what atrocities have been committed against our civilians in Pakistan Tribal Areas? I can tell you about a personal account a student who studied in a University , a bright young guy in 3rd year brilliant kid. He was going to be bread winner for his family , and one of first in his family to get a degree , not just any degree. A university degree recognized by UK university. He was going to be Electrical Engineer in 1 year time. He was going to help his family with his education instead what happened was tragic.

This poor kid , gets news one day that his family home god bombed in some alleged drone attack, and as a result he loses interest in Education he leaves school , and 3 month later news comes out that he died attacking NATO containers. It's an example of how a person's life got effected by Drone attacks.

There are some folks in country, selfish people , who value their own lives more and say I don't care what the rest of 90% of Pakistan does its not my concern. As long as my business and life style is not effected. These folks include people who feel they don't care if 70% of population gets food and nourishment.


Aristotle , a wise man from past stated clearly that when there is social injustice , the Citizen
of any nation raise their voice against that injustice. He stated two of these people , refrain from action

One of them is the , weak who becomes afraid to stand up against the Tyrany and injustice. Who gets afraid of the Jail and punishment.

The second who opposes the change are the corrupt benefactors who benefit from the ordeal

Besides these two all Citizens will stand up against the Injustice and corruption and Tyrany.

My fellow Pakistanis the war is not only here physically in the parliament square, but its a war against ideology against the corrupt rich class. You are fighting a war , so that the Rich and poor get same social justice.

You are not against Nawaz Sharif the person but the Ideology which Nawaz Sharif represents
You are against the "Mindset" of Nawaz Sharif , that there are two judicial systems in country.
One that protects the rich class , and one constitution which is used against the poor people of country.

We are against mindset, that Nawaz Sharif gets one constitutions , and average citizens get another implementation of constitution.

Nawaz Sharif when he transfers money his associates comes and protect him taking responsibility protecting nawaz from persecution. (Nullifying Anti Money Laundering Laws)

Example:
We have written Affidavid , from Ishaq Darr, that he transferred money on Nawaz's behalf
But we have no rule in Pakistan that chases him down and askes him , why did you transfer such huge amount on Nawaz's behalf
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ISI DG Mr Durrani stated in statement , Nawaz Sharif , and his associated benefited from money from Banks enormous amount of Money , in written statement. However there is no law in Pakistan that chases the money takers. Where did all that money go?

Nawaz Sharif , In any democratic country, when allegations come up against you a honorable person steps down to let the investigations complete and then he comes back to power

Example:
When we had Gilani, TV used to show commercials asking him to step down
it was ok. However now that Nawaz Sharif is in power such demands are anti constitutional.

Pause....

So the division is taking place , Tyrant vs victim and division in ranks of Political parties and ranks who is willing to stand up for right
One division is also taking place in PTI , now we are seeing who is going to stand up with you in difficult time and who will not stand with you
in moment of difficulty.

Song (Goes up ....against corruption)


We now know who is real and who is here to benefit from our political Tsunami.

I want to give a message to PTI members MPs, back in day when I played cricket we played
West Indies Side , who were fitted with players who were 6'5 feet tall and great specimens athletic and looked very daunting. As a cricket captain , I could analyse my own cricket team players and judge which players in the squad feared the opposing players and cautiously choose the players who can get by the mental aspect of the fear.

Similarly now , I am analysing all the members of PTI again, and judging who truely believes in the ideology of change. And who are mere members who just came along for the ride.
I can now spot the Tigers and I can also spot the lambs.

This is not a 20/20 cricket match (short duration format 3 hours max) , this is a long match
and at end of which, IDEOLOGICAL colleges will rise to occasion because they believe , and the fake members will fly away like birds in farmland.


Song...


Allah states , I will test you. Its true when that moment of test comes , one look at their own
ideology and beliefs, and then they ask themselves the question can they hold up against that ideology.

Example ideological people need not be Religious, an example once we were sitting room and a aftershock cam and the ones that ran first for cover were the ones that prayed 5 time a day and went to Hajj they had the most fear from personal loss. .


We as political party are also testing our colleague who can show how much they are willing to motivate the people and bring them to our events. And who are just mere formal candidates who do not much. After this ordeal we will pin point the "IDEALOGICAL" team a strong team. That believes in our mandate for our future government.

When we examine an example of Leadership and a group overcoming obstacles, best example is our Prophet Mohammad. During early phases first 10 years he only had 40 followers , and many left the group but finally in end they won their ideological battle.

Similarly today people say , your demonstrators are few in numbers I tell them no these demonstrators are not few in numbers

They are standing up for the weak people in Pakistan , they are all ideological people.

These people in attendee are people who will be the guardians of new Pakistan.

Addressing the crowd sitting in gathering , I congratulate you. Yes you are being watched by all the citizens of Pakistan and overseas and they envy your position , as you can change the system by your will. You have unique chance to influence the outcome of future. If you will not bring change , Nawaz Sharif will continue to use the system against the people. He will also use the money from Government treasury to buy influence

He buys people , judges , election commission , he tries to buy votes. He uses Police.

Can you imagine 3 IG (Police chiefs) in Islamabad got changed , because they refused to follow his orders to kill civilians, which include Old , Women and Children and Youth?
Three police chiefs refused to work and resigned or took leave of absence.



I ask you , in which Democratic nation or democracy does this action is allowed to take place? That he demands illegal action against citizens who are engaged in peaceful demonstrations.


500+ injured by Police brutality and 85 people took rubber bullet shots injuring them .
14 people died. Which country of the world makes it leagal that police can attack civilian peaceful demonstrators, and after they beat up the protestors , blame the mess on Police force.


Now people hate Police , the reason is Nawaz Sharif he is the main reason for this hate.
in KPK all the civilian Police officers

I tell my police officers in KPK government if someone tells you to do illegal act of attacking civilians I tell you police officers do not follow their order!!!!! Never ACCEPT illegal orders.


Ask our Police officer in KPK (Province that Imran Khan's party controls) , IG , he gave interview that this is first time in his life there is no political pressure on him politically. No one is threatening him to get transferred to another department which used to be common practice before. All due to transparency and improvements

I tell officers in my province to never listen to illegal requests

But Nawaz Sharif , destroyed Punjab police , he hired 25,000 people into Police.
The high courts have these documents that show that he hired illegal folks
hired them illegally into police force.

Nawaz Sharif , due to his illegal hirings in Police force in Punjab, and then using the force
brutally against the civilians has tarnished the reputation of Pakistan Police Force Punjab


Now he hs also attacking another institute , Pakistan Army and blaming the demonstrations on the Pakistan army,

Nawaz Sharif, be shameful of these acquisitions, how can you justify the protestors sitting here for 20 + days , did the army asked these every day people in Pakistan to leave their homes and sit in parliment road ? No....
My arguments against rigging were uniform since elections ended.
I have been saying this 14 months , I need Justice I need to recount elections

The army was not with me for last 10-14 months , my demands were based on my legal rights as a contestant in elections.

Nawaz Sharif, He can't accept the fact people of Pakistan are in streets asking him to go he keeps saying no its the army ?? No I have been saying this for 14 months.

The only conspiracy that happened is when you rigged the elections and this is why you are afraid of reelection and counting the votes. People took photoes by phones of illegal acts.

You just agreed to open 4 ballots and it was proven these were rigged you got scared and have been running since. You have refused to open all votes for examination

I asked him , wisely to just open 4 ballots initially and he agreed and it was clear then it was rigged and that proved my point


Break ....


I call that play to request recount of 4 ballots , in swinging yorker. I knew when he will agree
we will prove rigging is taking place. He tried to stall things as long as he could and finally opened

4 boxes in 10 months.....and refused to cooperate after that period
Now ...the situation is different......people are with me and demanding recount

If in Afghanistan they are opening every single vote , now 70 million votes being recounted.
How can you not agree???


You were involved in rigging. Is it not strange after all the Polling stopped , 5 hours later
in your speech you were caught requesting people , provide me Majority!!!! If voting has effectively ended who were you asking for votes??? Who did you meant??? Were you communicating with Election commission officers


We are not new , its clear who you were

Election day , when the word got out , our candidates were winning by clear 30,000 votes and as soon as your speech went out people still in lines were prevented from casting their votes and instead , votes were casted inside the rooms illegally by rigging to fluctuate the results.

Supreme court tells us Chinese Leader is coming to Pakistan
we should end the protest but I tell you China is our friend what can we learn from China ???


How to end poverty they , changed the status of 40 Million people to above poverty level

When Chinese Leader will come we will welcome him with flowers and love Chinese are our friend and they are our friend

We will welcome him like our brother and friend. We will greet Chinese friend with love and flowers, right here on the streets

My message to all the workers !!!! and MPs .......I am reviewing your performance
The performing MPs will get recognition!!!!


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Are you people heading for a internal war between civillians and military.

What a mess.

Why you biting the hand that feeds you.

USA has given you more dollars than the rest of the world combinrd
 
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Are you people heading for a internal war between civillians and military.

What a mess.

Why you biting the hand that feeds you.

USA has given you more dollars than the rest of the world combinrd

Why dont you switch places with Pakistan and have all those dollars.
 
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Even BBC is supporting Nawaz Sharif. Something is fishy, if USA and UK starts supporting a particular politician or a dictator.
Yea few yrs later they bring in troops to liberate that country!! :whistle:

Why you biting the hand that feeds you.
USA has given you more dollars than the rest of the world combinrd
Yea service charges are costly...Dont see America cry about them looks like they are AT LEAST mature enough to know the differences!

We do need dollars we have trillions of our own.

That's why the world sucks up to India including mighty usa
Yet the amount India owes Pakistan still needs to be coughed up? ;)

Post-Partition, India Still Owes Pakistan a Little Over 5.6 Billion Rupees, Says State Bank | World Affairs Journal
 
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And the first step is to have a running democratic system so that people learn to dialogue in the Parliament vs. killing each others in the street. Its democracy that changes the culture of a society by putting Parliament and Judiciary above all other institutes to settle human and political issues. Kind of like what happened in Pakistan where the Parliament has come up as the supreme power finally. The same IK who abandoned the same Parliament, was forced to send his people there today.
Dont interfere in our POLITICS
you American Gooon.................Now Go Away
 
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Dont interfere in our POLITICS you American Gooon.................Now Go Away

Everyone from Saudi to Turkey to UK to the Chinese interfere with your politics. Why are you stopping the Americans when you get more aid from America than anyone else.

Heck, you have people who sit in Canada and the UK and STILL come your streets and interfere to a point where the entire country's paralyzed and many killed and injured and a very expensive pill worth 5 Trillion that was forced down your throat. Why stop be? I am just writing post without doing anything even .001% close to what these idiots did!!!! Was your post towards IK and Mullah and you "accidentally" wrote it for me?
 
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Everyone from Saudi to Turkey to UK to the Chinese interfere with your politics. Why are you stopping the Americans when you get more aid from America than anyone else.

Heck, you have people who sit in Canada and the UK and STILL come your streets and interfere to a point where the entire country's paralyzed and many killed and injured and a very expensive pill worth 5 Trillion that was forced down your throat. Why stop be? I am just writing post without doing anything even .001% close to what these idiots did!!!! Was your post towards IK and Mullah and you "accidentally" wrote it for me?

Its ok , come here group hug time

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Its ok , come here group hug time

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That's cute. How about I just shake hands with you guys? The rest of ya'll can do the group hug. I am still ok with the hand shake. By the way, did you just call this forum the "Disney" (looking at your picture lol). I am cool with it but some smart people on here might get upset and consider that an "insult" lol
 
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Everyone from Saudi to Turkey to UK to the Chinese interfere with your politics.

None of whom have publicly stated their intent to protect its assets. Having said this, Saudi, Turkey, UK or Chinese too need to stay away from our internal issues. Same golden rule applies on everyone.

Why are you stopping the Americans when you get more aid from America than anyone else.

* We didn't request the American aid
* All Pakistanis are AGAINST the American aid, only our cooked politicians are not.
* American aid ends up in the pockets of people which America wants in power to serve its foreign policy goals rather than being spent on social or economic development.

Heck, you have people who sit in Canada and the UK and STILL come your streets and interfere to a point where the entire country's paralyzed and many killed and injured and a very expensive pill worth 5 Trillion that was forced down your throat. Why stop be?

Because they are OUR citizens and have the right to protest against murder of citizens by the govt and against election rigging system which keeps America's cronies in power.

I am just writing post without doing anything even .001% close to what these idiots did!!!!

Shut up. You don't have the right to call my countrymen 'idiots'. Their actions, demands are to be judged by us not by you!
 
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Bangladesh and Sri Lanka don't survive on American breast milk and they've survived decades without them.

Pakistani military just needs some ghairat...
Unlike Pakistan, neither of them is ruled by the military which is not accountable to anyone.

the most Unfortunate and damaging events in Pakistani history, be in the split in 1971, involvement in the Afghan war or participation in WoT happened when Pakistan was being ruled by dictators who did not have to answer to anyone.
 
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