Should we opt for the ICBM?

[Kompromat]

ICBMs come with geopolitical complications when other passive states start to factor you in their national security threat calculus. We cover our principle threat and that is what matters. Pakistan possesses the capability to develop an ICBM since 2007-8, but do we really need it?

Right now our focus should be to develop a capability to deliver our nuclear warheads to Indian cities without being intercepted by their ABMDS. This problem can be solved by following the Chinese development of hypersonic delivery devices like the "Falcon".

Please note that we are not going to survive a nuclear war with India even if we strike India first and take out their second strike capability and India doesn't or can't hit back. Our nukes are enough to incinerate India but the geographic proximity dictates the spread of radioactivity. In essence Pakistanis will die a slow and painful death by their own nukes and there would be nothing but a billion dead Indians to blame. The guilt of having committed a slaughter of apocalyptic proportions alone is enough to make our survival difficult.

 

[Blue Marlin]

from what i know pakistan does process an icbm but its similar to the agni v in terms of range. they tested parts of the missile on other shorter range missiles. this missile is not exactly operational as they is no need for it but i heard quiet recently in fact, that there is work on a successor which will be for operational use but thats at least 7 years away. i cant tell you to much due to the extreme secrecy involved. but the final thing i would say is that the missile would be trailer not tel mounted. dont say how i know but a cue would be to look up

example of a df31 icbm on a trailer

tel mounted Russian icbm

ICBMs come with geopolitical complications when other passive states start to factor you in their national security threat calculus. We cover our principle threat and that is what matters. Pakistan possesses the capability to develop an ICBM since 2007-8, but do we really need it?

Right now our focus should be to develop a capability to deliver our nuclear warheads to Indian cities without being intercepted by their ABMDS. This problem can be solved by following the Chinese development of hypersonic delivery devices like the "Falcon".

Please note that we are not going to survive a nuclear war with India even if we strike India first and take out their second strike capability and India doesn't or can't hit back. Our nukes are enough to incinerate India but the geographic proximity dictates the spread of radioactivity. In essence Pakistanis will die a slow and painful death by their own nukes and there would be nothing but a billion dead Indians to blame.

agreed abm is of more importance than icbm's. india has abm's to strike ballistic missiles and pakistan has been working around the clock to counter with tech such as post seperation correction and avoidance. this means a warhead does not simply fall to its target in a standard typical trajectory. this method of creating warheads that avoid abm is good and would ensure a good strike rate. pakistan is in the best postion to develop abm's. let me put it you you like this. one day(a long time ago) i asked my tutor, how to hack?, and he responded "you must know how to prevent hacking, then you will know how to hack." and that analogy fits this scenario quiet well

 

[denel]

Is it even needed? Your country is being torn apart internally.

 

[Indus Falcon]

Is it even needed? Your country is being torn apart internally.

Yes indian we need it. You paying for it?

 

[Blue Marlin]

Yes indian we need it. You paying for it?

i though south Africa and Pakistan are in good understandings, especially in terms of defence. @Indus Falcon making comments like that are worthless, its not worth it. he is merely giving his opinion. which is something you, and i would expect a few others are not going to like.

 

[Indus Falcon]

i though south Africa and Pakistan are in good understandings, especially in terms of defence. @Indus Falcon making comments like that are worthless, its not worth it. he is merely giving his opinion. which is something you, and i would expect a few others are not going to like.

We do, and this clown has no clue. No way is he 100% South African, or he doesn't know, (for sure) what is the extent of our relationship with SA.

 

[war&peace]

I think possessing the capability to produce an ICBM is a technical and financial issue....and I'm sure we have some along with thermonukes. But testing and declaring them is a political and strategic issue and I appreciate the wisdom of our strategists and planners to keep a lid on it until it is the right time. The same ambiguity on our nuclear program until May 28, 1998 served Pakistan greatly and revealing it at the right time was perfect.

Testing (publicly) an ICBM, until necessary, can run Pakistan into several financial and political troubles. We should rather focus on building our economical, industrial and technical base and we will just do fine. The security of a country is not based on just weapons.....otherwise Soviet Union would still be around and occupying Afghanistan.

 

[Blue Marlin]

We do, and this clown has no clue. No way is he 100% South African, or he doesn't know, (for sure) what is the extent of our relationship with SA.

they helped you with the raad alcm

and the darter a missile

and I'm not so sure but the darter r too

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

No need of it. Pakistan should focus on cruise missile technology and make our missiles fire at hyper cruise speeds.

 

[Zarvan]

Hi there)It,s no surprise we have the ICBM technology but we are not revealing it for some political reasons.Our missiles currently cover all India the main rival of Pakistan.But they don,t pose any threat or deterrence against the NATO or american allies.That,s the reason we have seen some gangsterism of NATO and america inside pakistan in the past.So i believe the ICBM which can target most NATO members(excluding turkey for obvious reasons) in europe will keep america and NATO out of this region and they will think thrice before any misadventure. What do you think?
Sorry if i said something naive or childish as i am not an expert in this field.

We need an ICBM in fact at least two different ICBM with massive range.

 

[Viper 94]

there is no need for pakistan to have icbm
currently we have the capability to target all our enemies
we should rather focus of inducting more advanced aircraft and warships including submarines
keep in mind our ballistic missile program is designs carry out nuclear strike against india and currently we have that capability

 

[Yousafzai_M]

I don't think we need an ICBM, we have enough to cover our loving neighbour to the east.

 

[Darth Vader]

It will be situation like a bail mujhe mar , They dont Need It , Simple

 

[انگریز]

they helped you with the raad alcm
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and the darter a missile
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and I'm not so sure but the darter r too


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Likewise Indian Nirbhay is copy of Russian Klub class. The "Cut in" air intake gives the clue.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Likewise Indian Nirbhay is copy of Russian Klub class. The "Cut in" air intake gives the clue.

no comment. i hate to be one sided