Should we make a Petition to change the Devanagari script of Bangla!?

[khair_ctg]

Bad idea, changing Bangla script is impossible, majority of Bangladeshi Bangalis will reject it. There is no political support for it anyway. Bangla script is fine the way it is.
Bangali Muslims already learn Arabic separately to read the Holy Quran, so who needs perso-arabic alphabet khichdi? Completely unnecessary

changing the way of writing (at least on large scale) does not depend on fleeting sentiments. the current formal/mainstream way of writing Bangla is adopted from Hindus. besides that, the Muslims no longer even write Farsi and Urdu any more. as a result, the inroads that Hindu culture, politics, philosophy, prose, poetry, epics have made into the Muslim society and replaced Muslim practises is mind-boggling. i tried to explain my take on this process very briefly here: Musalmani Bangla and its transformation

and besides, the regular people can write Bangla in the Nastaliq script if they want to any time. some plausibly have already been doing so

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

exactly......same with chennai and kolkata......
old madras n calcutta were more cooler than the indegenous names.

Madras was a rather modern name. The old name was exactly" Chennapattinam" a sleepy fishing town, now a metropolis.

 

[khair_ctg]

Dhaka : Khule-aam-a-baad

well Dhaka did have a Muslim name or a name used by historical Muslim administrators. why did your tolerant Hindu zamindars decide to change it?

 

[fallstuff]

Should the people of Bangladesh really do away with Devanagari script of Bangla and go for Arabic/Persian script? To Islamise our Language and bring back our real roots of East Bengal? The way our forefathers used to write and maybe talk?

I have an idea that our first initiative should be to make a Petition. And perhaps, it is a small step to a big change! We want your opinions of all the people here, and then decide if we will make this Petition.

By the way, I myself cannot make this petition because I am scared to go for this all by myself and I don't know much about the History as some of you here knows... We need someone who is wise, intelligent and knowledgeable to make this Petition for us and can add it to the description of the Petition, which will be able to convince most people to sign.

I think Change.org and GoPetition are a good places to start.

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@kalu_miah @MBI Munshi @aazidane @khair_ctg @Saiful Islam @Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury @kobiraaz

I probably have noticed some you guys here being huge supporters of this movement. Should we first start with a Petition?

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[INDIC]

well Dhaka did have a Muslim name or a name used by historical Muslim administrators. why did your tolerant Hindu zamindars decide to change it?

Change the name and get rid of evil yindoo name as soon as possible.

 

[Moander]

Should the people of Bangladesh really do away with Devanagari script of Bangla and go for Arabic/Persian script? To Islamise our Language and bring back our real roots of East Bengal? The way our forefathers used to write and maybe talk?

I have an idea that our first initiative should be to make a Petition. And perhaps, it is a small step to a big change! We want your opinions of all the people here, and then decide if we will make this Petition.

By the way, I myself cannot make this petition because I am scared to go for this all by myself and I don't know much about the History as some of you here knows... We need someone who is wise, intelligent and knowledgeable to make this Petition for us and can add it to the description of the Petition, which will be able to convince most people to sign.

I think Change.org and GoPetition are a good places to start.

Change.org - The world's platform for change

Petition Templates, Samples & Examples | GoPetition

@kalu_miah @MBI Munshi @aazidane @khair_ctg @Saiful Islam @Zahur Ahmed Chowdhury @kobiraaz

I probably have noticed some you guys here being huge supporters of this movement. Should we first start with a Petition?

Is there any Hindu language or is there a script that is not created by Allah? Do you know before our prophet Muhammad (Sm), Arabic was used by idol worshiper and there were thousand of poems glorifying idols? Allah didn't make any language or script Haram, so why a poor country like Bangladesh should spent millions of dollars when we can use the same fund to help the poor? Do you have any knowledge about Islam? Is it Islamic way to bicker over a matter like script which isn't even Haram when we still need to borrow or beg money from non Muslim countries? AS LONG AS MUSLIM LIKE YOU EXISTS THE WHOLE UMMAH WILL SUFFER.

 

[The Snow Queen]

Is there any Hindu language or is there a script that is not created by Allah? Do you know before our prophet Muhammad (Sm), Arabic was used by idol worshiper and there were thousand of poems glorifying idols? Allah didn't make any language or script Haram, so why a poor country like Bangladesh should spent millions of dollars when we can use the same fund to help the poor? Do you have any knowledge about Islam? Is it Islamic way to bicker over a matter like script which isn't even Haram when we still need to borrow or beg money from non Muslim countries? AS LONG AS MUSLIM LIKE YOU EXISTS THE WHOLE UMMAH WILL SUFFER.

We want Nastaliq (Persian) script not Naskh script. Nastaliq is used by all the Central Asian countries including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran uses it. Naskh (Arabic) is used by Middle East and South East Asian countries like Indonesia, Brunei, Malasia who uses Jawi script which is Malay language in Arabic script. Even Turkey uses Naskh script! We might be the only Muslim country in the World uses a script made by Mushriks which is even lower than Kafirs so what's to be proud of it?

If all the Muslim countries can use Arabic and Persian scripts then why can't we? Instead we fall into the hands of the evil Mushriks! If you want to be slaves to the Hindus and Brahimins then be my guest.

Just look how Indians think of Bangladesh:
India working to make Bangladesh a desert | Page 41

 

[newdelhinsa]

Why not, it should be changed ASAP.

The dividend of having save this great language in its original script will be India's, like we have Punjabi. A linguistic homogeneous Human race will be intellectually dumb who will eventually find more ways to not work hard on many other equities it has inherited from a civilizational continuity.

Look what is happening with Pakistanis, who are trying hard to appropriate old civilizations but have not traits left in practise other than few scattered muddy bricks. On the other hand Indians appreciate the same with ease and without any guilt; with Pakistanis exasperating helplessly.

 

[The Snow Queen]

Why not, it should be changed ASAP.
The dividend of having save this great language in its original script will be India's, like we have Punjabi. A linguistic homogeneous Human race will be intellectually dumb who will eventually find more ways to not work hard on many other equities it has inherited from a civilizational continuity.
Look what is happening with Pakistanis, who are trying hard to appropriate old civilizations but have not traits left in practise other than few scattered muddy bricks. On the other hand Indians appreciate the same with ease and without any guilt; with Pakistanis exasperating helplessly.

Old civilization? I have never read anything that is related to old civilization in Bangle. Maybe because the Bangla history started only 200 years ago after the Kafir English and Mushrik Brahmins made the Bangla script and everything started after that.

OHHH RIIIGHTT!! How did I forget about Punjab!!?? Punjab is divided between India and Pakistan! But in Pakistan's Punjab province they use Shamukhi which is Nastaliq script and in Indian Punjab province they use Gurmukhi which is Brahmic script! So if Bengal is divided between India and Bangladesh then why the hell did we decided to get along with the shitty Hindu Brahmic script!!?

 

[notsuperstitious]

We need someone who is wise, intelligent and knowledgeable to make this Petition for us and can add it to the description of the Petition, which will be able to convince most people to sign.

Try some other BD forum and all the best mate.

Madaris in Bangladesh are producing top Mawlana and Hafiz who are going the Gulf.

That explains a lot!

 

[newdelhinsa]

Old civilization? I have never read anything that is related to old civilization in Bangle. Maybe because the Bangla history started only 200 years ago after the Kafir English and Mushrik Brahmins made the Bangla script and everything started after that.

OHHH RIIIGHTT!! How did I forget about Punjab!!?? Punjab is divided between India and Pakistan! But in Pakistan;s Punjab province they use Shamukhi which is Nastaliq script and in Indian Punjab province they use Gurmukhi which is Brahmic script! So if Bengal is divided between India and Bangladesh then why the hell did we decided to get along with the shitty Hindu Brahmic script!!?

I will be last person to let any dirty mulla speak Indian native languages developed by Hindus.

So you are messing with wrong person here.

Civilization continuity is a counter intuitive science for illiterate like you, so don't go into that territory or ask me questions to spoon feed you about Bangladesh's connect, if there is any with the same. I have voted yes that Bangladeshi mulla should change the script; should rather kill this language and adopt Arabic.

On Punjabi: It is dead in Pakistan if you do not know, may be you do know, because you are a Pakistani with BD flag. May be you did wikipedia search and came with half informed diatribe to quote me for sake of quoting.

Shahi mukhi is nothing but Punjabi sounds written into urdu. Go a sell this snake oil to someone else that Punjabi is preserved by Pakistan rather it has been by Indian Punjab and Punjabis, who are practising it as an official language in its original from it was developed, not like Shahi mukhi which was later appropriated by Muslims suffering with identity crisis.

 

[Moander]

We want Nastaliq (Persian) script not Naskh script. Nastaliq is used by all the Central Asian countries including Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran uses it. Naskh (Arabic) is used by Middle East and South East Asian countries like Indonesia, Brunei, Malasia who uses Jawi script which is Malay language in Arabic script. Even Turkey uses Naskh script! We might be the only Muslim country in the World uses a script made by Mushriks which is even lower than Kafirs so what's to be proud of it?

If all the Muslim countries can use Arabic and Persian scripts then why can't we? Instead we fall into the hands of the evil Mushriks! If you want to be slaves to the Hindus and Brahimins then be my guest.

Just look how Indians think of Bangladesh:
India working to make Bangladesh a desert | Page 41

You didn't answer my questions, please answer them first. As for your question, My Iman isn't that fragile that using a script would shatter it. Besides Islam flourish using Bengali so why would we want to create fitna? Only to satisfy some people inferiority complex? Does language and script have religion? Did Allah created new language for Qur'an or used the language of the Mushriks so that they understand it better?

 

[The Snow Queen]

You didn't answer my questions, please answer them first. As for your question, My Iman isn't that fragile that using a script would shatter it. Besides Islam flourish using Bengali so why would we want to create fitna? Only to satisfy some people inferiority complex? Does language and script have religion? Did Allah created new language for Qur'an or used the language of the Mushriks so that they understand it better?

Because our Prophet Muhammad came from those lands and used that language to write Quran and that's why all Muslims countries uses it. We should do the same too, eventually. You think the other Muslims countries didn't have a script of their own? They did but they decided to follow a sunnah which was done by our Prophet.

@newdelhinsa a Because we don't care about the original script. The language will remain but just want an Islamic script which is appropriate for Muslims only. And this won't affect West Bengal just as Punjab isn't effected. And I disagree that changing script has identity crisis issues because does other Muslim countries faces identity issues by following this Sunnah? For us no. Stop exaggerating and calling everyone Mullahs, it's evident Indians are extremely anti Islam.

 

[Moander]

Because our Prophet Muhammad came from those lands and used that language to write Quran and that's why all Muslims countries uses it. We should do the same too, eventually. You think the other Muslims countries didn't have a script of their own? They did but they decided to follow a sunnah which was done by our Prophet.

Wow, after 1400 years you came up with that Hadith . Did Allah and Prophet Muhammad (SM) ever said to abolish all the language and script except Arabic?


Yo Kobiraaz long time no c

 

[JohnyBoy]

Old civilization? I have never read anything that is related to old civilization in Bangle. Maybe because the Bangla history started only 200 years ago after the Kafir English and Mushrik Brahmins made the Bangla script and everything started after that.

OHHH RIIIGHTT!! How did I forget about Punjab!!?? Punjab is divided between India and Pakistan! But in Pakistan's Punjab province they use Shamukhi which is Nastaliq script and in Indian Punjab province they use Gurmukhi which is Brahmic script! So if Bengal is divided between India and Bangladesh then why the hell did we decided to get along with the shitty Hindu Brahmic script!!?

I dont understand the logic of your discussion, You wanna get rid of your scripts and have an Islamiazed bangla just to be closer to Islam?? Is not the Quran translated in Bangla so you can read? Countries like Indonesia and Malaysia who have muslim majorities do not hold such inferiority, they have english as their script and quite a few of their words are from Sanskrit. The"malays: who are 99.9% sunnis are proudly known as "Bhumiputras" AKA son of soil (as in Sanskrit). these countries have moved leaps ahead and have very progressive status quo. Please move on from these ideologies and work towards a progressive state.