Should Turkyie Have the ultimate bomb?

[revojam]

You're talking about the nukes of the nuclear umbrella of the NATO correct? If so, then Turkey can't use these unless they're given permission from uncle Sam.

Not uncle sam but NATO HQ.

 

[A1Kaid]

Wouldnt Pakistan help?



What is your anti-turk problems ? what did turks do to you or your country ?

Wouldnt Pakistan help?

Pakistan has in the past twice offered Turkiye expertise/help/ and assistance with nuclear technology, both times Turkiye was afraid (for various political reasons) to accept the help and turned down the offers.Had Turkiye accepted the first offer most likely Turkiye could have been a nuclear weapons state today, second in the Muslim world after Pakistan. Turkiye missed a golden opportunity.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

Pakistan has in the past twice offered Turkiye expertise/help/ and assistance with nuclear technology, both times Turkiye was afraid (for various political reasons) to accept the help and turned down the offer.Had Turkiye accepted the first offer most likely Turkiye could have been a nuclear weapons state today, second in the Muslim world after Pakistan. Turkiye missed a golden opportunity.

Yes our p.... governments , some didnt have the heart of a chicken.

 

[Hyperion]

You're talking about the nukes of the nuclear umbrella of the NATO correct? If so, then Turkey can't use these unless they're given permission from uncle Sam.

Nope, these are for exclusive use of Turkey. Only oversight is 8 hours authorization protocol in time of crisis.

Please don't ask why. I just KNOW.

 

[get straight]

Not uncle sam but NATO HQ.

and who sends nato in afghanistan iraq and else where

do you think turkey has any agenda fighting an afgan war or any gain from it?

last i heard nato didnt speak a word on turkish F4 shot by syrian army

 

[Patriot]

Turkey is in NATO - They already have the nukes and most importantly no country will attack NATO country due to fear of attack from NATO Armed Forces.Turkey does not need someone's help to developer nuclear weapons - They have far more resources and technical capabilities to acquire Nuclear Weapons as compared to Pakistan (We still managed to build nuclear weapons).In reality Turkey is far more more powerful then nuclear armed Pakistan.

 

[RazPaK]

Too many countries will cry.

Armenia
Greece
Serbia
Syria
Russia

Ect.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

Yeah true we can't. But we should be like germany.. Have the capabillity and industrial power.

 

[Solomon2]

Turkey had dual-key nuclear-tipped intermediate-range American "Thor" missiles in the early 60s; these were a factor in precipitating the 1962 Cuban missile crisis and as part of its resolution they were removed. What would the Russians, ever-sensitive to the possibility of being denied passage of the Bosporus, do at the prospect of Turkey acquiring The Bomb outside the NATO command structure?

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

But if we did have it we'd be free from right European politians..

 

[BLACKEAGLE]

Turkey is in NATO - They already have the nukes and most importantly no country will attack NATO country due to fear of attack from NATO Armed Forces.Turkey does not need someone's help to developer nuclear weapons - They have far more resources and technical capabilities to acquire Nuclear Weapons as compared to Pakistan (We still managed to build nuclear weapons).In reality Turkey is far more more powerful then nuclear armed Pakistan.

What's with the over exaggeration?! Pakistan army is almost as strong as the Turkish one.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

What's with the over exaggeration?! Pakistan army is almost as strong as the Turkish one.

Why are you getting sensitive?

 

[revojam]

and who sends nato in afghanistan iraq and else where

do you think turkey has any agenda fighting an afgan war or any gain from it?

last i heard nato didnt speak a word on turkish F4 shot by syrian army

Rasmussen and hilary clinton speak about f4 said it was unacceptable and they are with turkey etc..

You guys need to stop thinking West or NATO as one piece , there are two sides :

-US shpere consisting countries like US,UK and many other not important countries(check the member countries whos in f-35 program) this shpere lead by US-UK going with anti-russian policy they are the ones who get oil from petro arabs also establashing close relationship with muslim middle-east countries.Also US shpere is behind the terrorist islamic organizations , this shpere support Turkey's EU membership and againts France/Germany powerhouse insde EU.

-Another shpere is lead by France/Germany these guys are in bed with Russia(despite the fact they are in NATO) taking russian oil, having good relationship with russia in enegry topics.This shpere is consisting anti-islam countries like Sweden with their ban againts burkas,minarets and also theyare the ones whose leading EU while angering brits.They are againts EU membership of Turkey , they are the ones who started and spreadid among europe countries so-called armenian genocide recognazations in 2000s.

If codes were to in hands of US Obama's approvel would be enough but since they in the hands of NATO pro-russian countries can veto of giving codes to Turkey , this is the difference.

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

Turkey had dual-key nuclear-tipped intermediate-range American "Thor" missiles in the early 60s; these were a factor in precipitating the 1962 Cuban missile crisis and as part of its resolution they were removed. What would the Russians, ever-sensitive to the possibility of being denied passage of the Bosporus, do at the prospect of Turkey acquiring The Bomb outside the NATO command structure?

Turkyie and russiya have a economic treaty and have over 100 billion dollars trade. And turkish soap shows XD

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

Turkey had dual-key nuclear-tipped intermediate-range American "Thor" missiles in the early 60s; these were a factor in precipitating the 1962 Cuban missile crisis and as part of its resolution they were removed. What would the Russians, ever-sensitive to the possibility of being denied passage of the Bosporus, do at the prospect of Turkey acquiring The Bomb outside the NATO command structure?

the moving through bosphorus is within a treaty of montreux regulations.

Montreux Convention Regarding the Regime of the Turkish Straits - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Convention consists of 29 Articles, four annexes and one protocol. Articles 2-7 consider the passage of merchant ships. Articles 8-22 consider the passage of war vessels. The key principle of freedom of passage and navigation is stated in articles 1 and 2. Article 1 provides that "The High Contracting Parties recognise and affirm the principle of freedom of passage and navigation by sea in the Straits". Article 2 states that "In time of peace, merchant vessels shall enjoy complete freedom of passage and navigation in the Straits, by day and by night, under any flag with any kind of cargo."
The International Straits Commission was abolished, authorising the full resumption of Turkish military control over the Straits and the refortification of the Dardanelles. Turkey was authorised to close the Straits to all foreign warships in wartime or when it was threatened by aggression; additionally, it was authorised to refuse transit from merchant ships belonging to countries at war with Turkey. A number of highly specific restrictions were imposed on what type of warships are allowed passage. Non-Black Sea state warships in the Straits must be under 15,000 tons. No more than nine non-Black Sea state warships, with a total aggregate tonnage of no more than 30,000 tons, may pass at any one time, and they are permitted to stay in the Black Sea for no longer than twenty-one days.
Although the treaty is often cited as prohibiting aircraft carriers in the straits[9], there is no explicit prohibition on aircraft carriers in the treaty. However, the tonnage limits in Article 14, which apply to all non-Black Sea powers, would preclude the transit of modern aircraft carrying ships. In the case of non-Black Sea powers, these terms make it impossible for transit any modern ships carrying aircraft through the straits without violating the terms of the convention.