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Should This Man Be Smiling?

How long can he hold on?

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Coming back to the topic, I think Musharraf is certainly a very capaple leader who has turned Pakistan towards a better future and it would be encouraging to see him stay in power for longer but he should also remember that he must not repeat Zia's mistakes.

Musharraf is definitely the right answer to the radical Mullahs running wild all over Pakistan.
 
Musharraf is probably better but not the best. All he had done is accept America, and everything went the right way.

If he would have said no America! Then the government of Pakistan would have collapsed as it was already were, but the difference were that Musharraf would have been given the title of "dictator" and blah blah blah!

These big countries have big games, big politics, we are just the characters in the story unless we believe in our self and rise like those who believe they would rise! Rise like China even if it is damn communism, better no one would be poor!
 
The reality check for Pakistan is that it is no China or India. It has to try and come back to its founder's, Jinnah's vision of a welfare state from its current 'national securty state' status. It has to collaborate with bigger powers to earn favors and thrive in the process.

Brinksmanship (the attitude to take on the entire world) and isolationism wouldn't lead to anything. Theres the future of 161 million people at stake here. About time selfishness was left behind.
 
Originally posted by Sid@Feb 28 2006, 04:41 AM
It has to try and come back to its founder's, Jinnah's vision of a welfare state from its current 'national securty state' status.
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i think thats what Musharraf is doing isnt it??
hez also a soldiers to apart from reformation he can not ignore looking into India or other factor. And i think its not takin on the entire world rathe we had to keep in mind out security implications.
 
Musharraf is 'trying'. He has a mountain of a task to do all by himself. Ofcourse you cannot ignore India's military buildup and its hegemonic designs which have implications for our security. But, you cannot just become obsessed with these security implications and forget about everything else that our country requires paying attention to.

This obsession was the biggest mistake our leaders and senoirs in the armed forces made in the past. Lets not repeat that. Its time to look at other things that need attention to: basic education, healthcare, poverty, hunger, infrastructure, etc.
 
mansoor_aq said:
Guys what about NAB and privatisation going in Pakistan under the influence of our dear General Sb?


Its going pretty good.

Would like you to find out more about

NAB's investigation into Sugar crisis

and

Privatisation of Pakistan Steel Mill
 
Lahori paa jee said:
Its going pretty good.

Would like you to find out more about

NAB's investigation into Sugar crisis

and

Privatisation of Pakistan Steel Mill

yes please
 
Steel Mill should NEVER be privatized!

The Government should keep the major national mills under government control.

Corporate greed destroys everything. Gov. can keep running mills even though they report losses, corporates fire employes at the first hint of a loss.
 
Averröes said:
Steel Mill should NEVER be privatized!

The Government should keep the major national mills under government control.

Corporate greed destroys everything. Gov. can keep running mills even though they report losses, corporates fire employes at the first hint of a loss.

Yes i agree i was always against the sale of steel mills.
It was the only profit earning Mills but unfortuantly some elements just for self intrests were bent upon selling.


There were even news about some indian business men acquiring shares in the mills and were talking part in purchase of the mill few months back.

So one wonders how the people at the helms of affairs can allow such people or companies who can be security risk to the country.
 
I'm all up for privatization. Government run firms are rotten to the last employee. Anyways, that is an entirely separate discussion and can be turned in to a new thread should members wish so.

Coming back to the topic, Musharraf still has plenty to smile about. He will most likely get re-elected for another five year term.
 
Sid said:
I'm all up for privatization. Government run firms are rotten to the last employee. Anyways, that is an entirely separate discussion and can be turned in to a new thread should members wish so.
Agreed!

Coming back to the topic, Musharraf still has plenty to smile about. He will most likely get re-elected for another five year term.
He can count on my vote! :thumbsup:
 
Pakistan Steel sold at throwaway price

Within 22 years after its full commercial operations in 1984, Pakistan’s only integrated steel mill in the public sector, which has been operating on optimum capacity for at least last three years, was passed on to a consortium of foreign and local investors at a price that is being called “peanuts” and a “no price at all” by employees unions, stock brokers and independent economists.

Only a day before the bidding of Pakistan Steel, market analysts were putting the price of 75 per cent shares at $1 billion plus. The worth of real estate only (4,546 acres of land on which various units of Pakistan Steel are constructed) was estimated at Rs27 billion in March. One of the leading real estate dealers of Pakistan and a top stock broker was approached by the Pakistan Steel authorities to advise them on privatization modalities and valuation of the assets.

The developed land of steel mill was valuated at Rs5.5-6 million an acre and the undeveloped land at Rs3-3.5 million an acre. Way back in 1974, Pakistan Steel obtained 19,000 acres of land from the Sindh government at 74 paisa per square yard. But the infrastructure developed on this land from taxpayers’ money has enhanced the market worth of land at present to Rs20 million an acre. This is because there is now 110km metalled road, 70km railway track, a 165 megawatt electric power generation station, a water treatment plant and a jetty.

But on March 31, all these assets were given to an investors’ consortium for Rs21.68 billion ($362 million). Prior to this bidding, there were planted media reports on worn out machinery of the steel mills that now need replacement and revamping. But all credit goes to the management and employees who kept operating their mills at 100 per cent capacity for the last three consecutive years with no major mishap. In 2003, President Pervez Musharraf had announced a bonus for the staff in recognition of their hard work.

The Employees-Management Consortium is offering Rs24 billion and is demanding their first right of refusal in the transaction. It is not being heeded either by the Privatisation Commission or by the prime minister’s office.

A stock broker on Thursday offered an immediate payment of Rs30 billion for Pakistan Steel.

The consortium that won the bidding includes a Saudi group Tuwairqi, a Russian group M. Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works, Arif Habih and Siidique Sons. This consortium offered a bid of $362 million (Rs21.68 billion) at a rate of Rs16.80 a share. Awais Leghari took the charge as Privatization Minister recently after Dr Hafeez Sheikh quit. Pakistan Steel’s privatization was his first assignment and contrary to past practices he immediately issued the letter of acceptance to the successful bidder as he said that he was authorized by the cabinet committee.

The practice is that the successful bid is considered by the Cabinet Committee on Privatization chaired by the prime minister. The Privatization Commission issues letter of approval only after the CCoP has considered all aspects of the successful bid. It was not done in the case of Pakistan Steel.

The Privatization Commission did not disclose the reserved or reference price of Pakistan Steel. There is no report as to who was appointed as the financial consultant and who carried out the valuation of the assets.

What makes the deal more intriguing is stone-laying of a 300-million-dollar billet plant of the Tuwairqi group on a 220-acre plot at the Port Qasim. This group is reported to have given $10 million donation for the renovation of Qaudi-i-Azam mausoleum.

After the Port Qasim billet plant comes into production, with one million ton production line after two years or so, the Tuwairqi group will enjoy almost a monopoly status on a industry that is called “mother industry”. The steel industry is the basis of all other industries and if it comes under the control of a group that is alien, it is fraught with all consequences.

For long, Pakistan remained an importer of steel. The powerful lobby of steel importers made it sure to torpedo every effort to set up a steel mills project in Pakistan during the 1950s and 60s. Steel Mill was called a “white elephant” when set up with the Soviet assistance at a total cost of Rs25 billion in the 1970s.

There were many hurdles in the implementation of the project, and it was an irony of the events that the late Bhutto had laid the foundation of this project in 1974 and its commissioning was inaugurated in 1981 by the late General Zia.

From 1981 till this day, there were about 22 chairmen. In 1990, as many as six chairmen came and went in Pakistan Steel in a single year. Pakistan Steel’s annual procurement of raw material and sale of steel products were worth more than Rs30 billion and therefore all the powerful actors of state — bright stars of civil service and those in uniform — claimed their ounce of flesh from the project. Pakistan Steel is a classic example of inefficiency and corruption of Pakistan’s high and mighty but a model of hard work of engineers and workers. People in Pakistan Steel still remember Abid Hussain and H.N. Akhtar with regard and respect.

Source
 
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