Should Scotland have simply declared independence like Kovoso did from Serbia

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

The voting was rigged from start , as 700,000 Scottish folks were not allowed to vote merely because now they may have resided in British island

The reverse was not true as someone born in British Isle would be able to cast a vote if they happen to live in Scotland territory
500,000 k voters

So the Scotish folks were already down about -1.5 Million votes before the vote count even started

Reference: BBC
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73995000/gif/_73995667_scotland_voting_eligibility_464gr(2).gif

What should have happened was that people of Scotish Ancestory would have been allowed to vote freely . 700,000+ not allowed to vote

And the 500,000k plus british living in scotland should not have been allowed to vote for scotland merely becasue they live there now

The figure of 1.5 Million voters effected the elections and that is all


Scots were once again cheated by freedom by cunning miniputation of who can vote or not

 

[Frogman]

The voting was rigged from start , as 700,000 Scottish folks were not allowed to vote merely because now they may have resided in British island

The reverse was not true as someone born in British Isle would be able to cast a vote if they happen to live in Scotland territory
500,000 k voters

So the Scotish folks were already down about -1.5 Million votes before the vote count even started

Reference: BBC
http://news.bbcimg.co.uk/media/images/73995000/gif/_73995667_scotland_voting_eligibility_464gr(2).gif

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What should have happened was that people of Scotish Ancestory would have been allowed to vote freely . 700,000+ not allowed to vote

And the 500,000k plus british living in scotland should not have been allowed to vote for scotland merely becasue they live there now

The figure of 1.5 Million voters effected the elections and that is all


Scots were once again cheated by freedom by cunning miniputation of who can vote or not
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[Chronos]

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Oh very droll sir.

 

[Pak_Sher]

The people of Scotland have decided to live in the UK for now.

 

[invinciblesgunner]

Most of the people who voted no were over 55. Scotland is bound to be independent one day, I just have a feeling. Maybe in 15 years who knows

 

[nvKyleBrown]

Did Americans conduct a referendum when they seceded from Britain? Did Confederates conduct a referendum when they seceded from the US? No. If Scotland declared independence from the UK, over 90% of Scots would have fought.

They would have fought each other. 55% of the country didn't want seperation. They just had this vote in their own county. Individuals had been declaring independence for a long time, this was a measure of the whole country's opinion. They don't agree with you.

Because it's proud to have your own country. When someone asks "Where are you from?" Scottish people can proudly say "I'm from Scotland"

They say that already. They just carry UK passports, which are more useful.

The voting was rigged from start , as 700,000 Scottish folks were not allowed to vote merely because now they may have resided in British island

The reverse was not true as someone born in British Isle would be able to cast a vote if they happen to live in Scotland territory
500,000 k voters

The people that live there get to vote on whether the place they live will be part of the UK or not. How is that unfair? Oh, it's about where you were born, not where you currently live? Not in the West.

If you move, you give up the rights you had where you USED to live, and acquire rights where you now live. Well, in the civilized world, anyhow. Exceptions apply for those who move illegally, but no one is claiming that about either Scots in England/Wales, or about English/Welsh folk in Scotland. You vote where you live, not all the places you used to live.

That actually really bothers me. Do you think if you move to the US you should still be able to vote in Pakistan? would that be fair? Or vise-versa, American-born people who move to Pakistan should not be able to acquire voting rights in Pakistan? People have to stay where they were born, essentially? I hope you still live within 5 miles of your birthplace.

 

[Declein]

Both US and France for example had KLA (Kosovo Liberation Army) listed as a terrorist group, until they needed them as a reason to attack Serbia. And after that, they needed the good guys and the bad guys, like in all good western movies. And since we got the role of the bad guys, we had a great opportunity to watch as a whole western media machinery took a piss all over us.

I think you (Serbia) completely sucked at PR and, again, completely sucked on the diplomatic front in regards to Kosovo. Everything went downhill from there and that's in a big part your own fault

I still remember that one picture of a barbed fence and some Albanian gripping it, "sold" to the public as "concentration" camps...hilarious, but many in the west believed it..

 

[proka89]

I think you (Serbia) completely sucked at PR and, again, completely sucked on the diplomatic front in regards to Kosovo. Everything went downhill from there and that's in a big part your own fault

I still remember that one picture of a barbed fence and some Albanian gripping it, "sold" to the public as "concentration" camps...hilarious, but many in the west believed it..

Well in 1998 and 1999 there was no internet as we know it today. There was no Facebook, youtube, blogs, online newspaper.... TV, radio and regular newspapers were more or less all source of informations. And all major mass media on the west was under control of their countries. And when that was not enough NATO even bombed the main building of Serbian national television. It's hard even today with all options that Internet brings to fight the propaganda war against western media.

 

[nvKyleBrown]

I had internet conversations with Serbs in Serbia during that campaign. The Serbs I talked to thought Milosevic was a bad guy, but the bombing was an overreaction by the West. I think we had access to a wide variety of viewpoints in the West. The Serbs reported that there was limited access to contrary viewpoints in Serbia, however.

The Web was certainly smaller back then, but it did exist. Some Serbian opposition types were running a website with running commentary on what was going on inside Serbia. In the US, intervention and non-intervention were debated vigorously. The fact that the interventionists won the debate is not indicative that there were no contrary viewpoints. Sometimes your views are not the views that win out in the discussion, however wrong you think the other side is.

See the US movie "Wag the Dog" for one opposing point of view articulated in the West at that time. There were others as well. Sounds like the fact that there was discussion was not available in Serbia though.