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its yours personal opinionno you were fulfilling your duty towards your master.
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its yours personal opinionno you were fulfilling your duty towards your master.
no you were fulfilling your duty towards your master.
you already proved it in this thread.its yours personal opinion
dont you have any shame? i already told you come back when you cross 1 trillion mark till then you dont even qualify to have any discussion. now go away...He is no slave. If there is one slave that is you. That's slave of Turks for 1000 years and British. Double slave.
well i will support a weak brother then a strong friend and i dont know why chinese become so anti Turkey? they shoot down a Russian plane not a chinese.I dont know why so many Pakistanis are so obsessed with weakling like Turkey and think they are advanced?
They have so many system and weapon system can't developed by themselves and some suggest Turkey can lead them? Its like a blind lead another blind.
haha... trueChina should lend Pakistan $10 billion dollars (interest free) to buy Chinese subs
China needs to keep it's citizens working
lol 800 billion calling 2 trillion poorer. come back when you at least cross 1 trillion mark. till then live in delusion poorer turkey man.
another Pakistani slave of turkey.India, a wealthy country of poor people . Turkey, a rich country of rich people.
either go ask your forefathers about slavery who were slaves of muslims for a thousand year or shut up. its not good for a nation who lived under muslim rule to call other slaves.another Pakistani slave of turkey.
......Its a thread about pakistan and turkey and i am supposed to reply here..But what you doing here?????ISn't it a slavery act(According to your logic)you already proved it in this thread.
btw one friendly advice try to give importance to Pakistan instead of turkey, KSA etc.
dont you have any shame? i already told you come back when you cross 1 trillion mark till then you dont even qualify to have any discussion. now go away...
Population of India =1.25 billionyes. you guys are even below us.
India(GDP)= 2.1 trillion
turkey(GDP)= 800 billion
PN does not need to lease any Sub.
We don't require to lease or train on a type which is on the exit.
No, no. It's average Indian doesn't have a house and live in slums. While we do. Average Indian earns like 1 dollar a day lol while minimum wage here is 1300tl.
Per 22 July 2014, Saab is owner of Kockums. TKMS got booted out (they tried to strangle Kockums, which was not in the Swedish national interest).Turkey has a robust ship building program; with a lot of domestic content for the future u-214 submarine program.
The U-209 would be just a platform, on which Pakistan can observe another navy's submarine methods.
Turkey is a nato navy, and they train to detect Russian submarines in the black sea (presumably), India operates u-209 submarines and Kilo Class Submarines, as well as nuclear submarines based on Russian technology
A 5 year lease can potentially bring access to all this knowledge, and can help Pakistan outline better parameters for the design of the s-20 submarines (this was the same design idea around the JF-17; using the F-16 as the model for that project)
(Type 209 Upgrade Approved.
At least the lease of one of the Gur Class Submarine; can bring a new perspective to the PN; german design philosophy and experience, that will be going into the turkish program; and turkey is developing similar subsystems pakistan may look to acquire for its subs to make them keep up with world class AIP-SSK Standards
GÜR CLASS (Mod 209 Type 1400) |
Remember Thyssen Krupp is the owner of both HDW and Kockums; which have built submarines for the Swedish, Israeli, Japanese, Australian, Indian, as well as are leading the future of AIP-SSK technology
and while the U-209/1400 are older designs, new technology is built on older technology, and the best way to catch-up is acquire the best you can get access to (especially if its a modest 5 year lease) and build your own technology simultaneously; look at the Chinese Su-35 deal, while developing the J-20
there are still things that can be learned; and Pakistan needs to look for ways to get a qualitative edge where it can