Facebook and Google/Youtube have proved to be un-reliable partners, although they are now better working with our government to remove bad information. However, developing a capable Vietnamese one to replace both Youtube and Facebook is in hot debate recently at government level.
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Facebook and Google/Youtube have proved to be un-reliable partners, although they are now better working with our government to remove bad information. However, developing a capable Vietnamese one to replace both Youtube and Facebook is in hot debate recently at government level.
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I'm not sure Vietnam has a big enough market to justify this. You will need a large market like that of China to make this commercially viable. If CCP wants one that is easily controlled censored, they can still use Chinese ones like YOUKOU and Iqiyi which I mentioned previously. Or maybe Vietnam is also wary of Chinese apps?
I don't see the point of Vietnam creating a new one. Doubt people there will use it like they do with YouTube already.
No crack code is needed. It just simple download of software from PC and install. If normal consume can accept clicking google play store on their smartphone. Such task is not much different by too much.
You can easily find that no of Zalo users in Vietnam far more surpassed that of Viber or Whatsapp. Vietnamese online commerce sites now dominating the market (from Alexa). Why we cannot do it with social media, with population of 96 millions and most have access to Internet.
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That is why I said consumers in general are quite lazy. Lol. They don't want to do extra work when they don't need to. Everybody has already been used to buying a phone that comes with all Google services for a long time now. So they expect every phone to have that preinstalled. Most consumers won't be bothered to have to do this work all again themselves . Especially when they don't need to(many other alternatives), this will play a big part in their choice of which phone to buy. Why do you think Chrome now dominates the world's mobile browser(and even desktop) market meanwhile UC browser and opera were once the world leaders and even increasing the gap at one point ? It's because almost every phone out there now comes preinstalled with chrome , so even people who were used to using UC browser (like myself) couldn't be bothered to go and installed UC browser again after buying a new phone especially when they already have Chrome browser on their phone. Which is why Chrome now dominates the world browser market completely. (I think over 60% market share and growing). Apple's safari comes second due to the same reason(it's iPhones preinstallations). Others like once dominant UC browser and opera now languish at the bottom trying to survive and remain relevant.
Yes, do agree but if hardware spec has a big different, the little effort to do some pre installation will be worthwhile It a matter of time , an installation of apk file by phone will be available. Huawei mate 30 pro hardware spec is so powerful that all those effort to do pre installation is worthwhile for buyer who do appreciate huawei mate 30 pro.
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It is piracy only if the company not authorized to use it are using it. If you install GMS, then it isn't piracy as you are not sanctioned from doing so.
Sideloading doesn't require any hacks. Nevertheless, since no official store gives the app directly, it is possible for the sideloader upload of APK has cracked it. But by using reliable APK stores, that chance can be limited. Secondly, the chance that the reliable APK store cracks an app is less than the chance that Google themselves have cracked it to let CIA inside
I general, the main drawback of Huawei Mate 30 is its 5G which means massive battery consumption.
Google is charging a fee for each GMS. Installing it for free is then piracy. I did not understand your "not sanctioned" part.
No legal android app store will keep GMS. Will they get revenue from it. If they do, will they share it will google. If not, it is piracy. If yes, google is breaking the law of not giving GMS to Huawei.
How many American or European users will trust a non legal Android App store.
That is user fault. Not Huawei. Ask Google go charged the user.
It seems to be otherwise, IMO Google will have a painful era ahead. Now Google should prepare to start a battle of their survival.
Just take an example of automotive industry. About two decades ago, GMC and Chevy were big brand names, now you rarely find them.
RR (aeronautical division) just surviving due non-transparency in their deals.
Sooner or later, western/USA dominance in civil aviation will also be over.
The miracle of China is that they make access of common man to technological benefits cheap and easy, which was previously only dedicated to wealthiest/elites.
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Huawei indeed fired all their US staff but it's not because they are losing revenue; instead Huawei moved their jobs to Italy.
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Huawei Confirms Another Nasty Surprise For Mate 30 Buyers
There have now been three days of feverish speculation as to whether Huawei will find a workaround for users to overcome the lack of Google software and services on its new flagship Mate 30 smartphones. Google’s core services and software, including Gmail, YouTube and Google Maps, cannot be made available unless its core Play Services are also installed.
The company’s smartphone boss had suggested a complex workaround, enabling users to unlock access to the very core of its phones, installing Google core services at a system level—creating excitement in the technical community. But now it seems that he was wrong: Huawei has confirmed this will not happen, after all. Unless and until there is a lifting of the U.S. blacklist, its users will seemingly just have to go without.
So, put simply, Huawei’s smartphone boss said the company would make a change to enable a complex install process for Google services onto its Mate 30 devices, and then the company reached out to say, actually, that’s not the case at all. Not good.
Most U.S. apps—even the likes of Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram—will be available to install on the Mate 30 from other app stores. But not Google’s core services and software. Huawei has already confirmed they will not ship with the Mate 30 devices. To after-market install those services would mean users unlocking the bootloader on their devices.
Despite outlawing the practice for security reasons some time ago, there had been speculation the company would enable bootloader unlocking. Android Authority reported consumer boss Richard Yu saying “we limited it because we wanted to guarantee more security for consumers. But this time we will leave more freedom for the consumers so they can do more customization by themselves. So we are planning to let consumers do that.”
Essentially, Huawei’s consumer boss had told the media the process would be enabled, substantiating his previous comments that there would be “workarounds.”
But alas this will not be the case. As I suggested, this would be too complex and risky for the vast majority of Huawei’s users, and it would put Google in a difficult position with the U.S. government if it was seen to be accommodating a workaround. In an update to its story, Android Authority has now reported that a Huawei spokesperson had reached out clarify that, despite Yu’s comments, the company has “no plans to unlock the bootloader on Mate 30 devices.”
In reality, millions of users were never likely to “root” their devices and customize their ROMs in any case, not with its inherent effort and, worse, security risks. But some more technical users would do exactly that, and on balance this was seen as a poor idea on a number of fronts.
In the meantime, and as I’ve said before, there is maybe a learning in this for Yu himself. The consumer boss claimed a new “faster than Android” OS would be available soon after the blacklist came into effect. As it transpired, though, we were given HarmonyOS which isn’t a replacement for Android on smartphones at all. And then, when Google dropped its support for the Mate 30, Yu told us that the phones would be unlocked as a workaround. Now that doesn’t seem to be the case. There’s maybe some message management required.
This doesn’t rule out some other option being found, but it is hard to see how the company can workaround the lack of Google Mobile Services on its devices without such a move. “How this choice will impact those wanting to sideload Google Play Services,” Android Authority commented, “is as yet unknown and we don’t yet know if this decision may be revised in future. With no Google Play Services and no Google apps out of the box, the Mate 30 series has a pretty serious uphill battle on its hands in the West—Huawei declined to comment any further on the bootloader situation.”
Earlier I reported that Huawei has taken the next steps in its moves to widen the developer ecosystem for its own variant of unlicensed Android and its emerging HarmonyOS alternative. In reality, this is the direction of travel for the company in lieu of a significant change in Washington’s stance. The prize for getting this right will be huge, but the company will shed users on the way as they likely elect to stick with the tried and tested full-fat Android they have today. Huawei will keep focused on the long game and the rest of us will watch to see what happens.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ms-another-nasty-surprise-for-mate-30-buyers/
There have now been three days of feverish speculation as to whether Huawei will find a workaround for users to overcome the lack of Google software and services on its new flagship Mate 30 smartphones. Google’s core services and software, including Gmail, YouTube and Google Maps, cannot be made available unless its core Play Services are also installed.
The company’s smartphone boss had suggested a complex workaround, enabling users to unlock access to the very core of its phones, installing Google core services at a system level—creating excitement in the technical community. But now it seems that he was wrong: Huawei has confirmed this will not happen, after all. Unless and until there is a lifting of the U.S. blacklist, its users will seemingly just have to go without.
So, put simply, Huawei’s smartphone boss said the company would make a change to enable a complex install process for Google services onto its Mate 30 devices, and then the company reached out to say, actually, that’s not the case at all. Not good.
Most U.S. apps—even the likes of Facebook, WhatsApp and Instagram—will be available to install on the Mate 30 from other app stores. But not Google’s core services and software. Huawei has already confirmed they will not ship with the Mate 30 devices. To after-market install those services would mean users unlocking the bootloader on their devices.
Despite outlawing the practice for security reasons some time ago, there had been speculation the company would enable bootloader unlocking. Android Authority reported consumer boss Richard Yu saying “we limited it because we wanted to guarantee more security for consumers. But this time we will leave more freedom for the consumers so they can do more customization by themselves. So we are planning to let consumers do that.”
Essentially, Huawei’s consumer boss had told the media the process would be enabled, substantiating his previous comments that there would be “workarounds.”
But alas this will not be the case. As I suggested, this would be too complex and risky for the vast majority of Huawei’s users, and it would put Google in a difficult position with the U.S. government if it was seen to be accommodating a workaround. In an update to its story, Android Authority has now reported that a Huawei spokesperson had reached out clarify that, despite Yu’s comments, the company has “no plans to unlock the bootloader on Mate 30 devices.”
In reality, millions of users were never likely to “root” their devices and customize their ROMs in any case, not with its inherent effort and, worse, security risks. But some more technical users would do exactly that, and on balance this was seen as a poor idea on a number of fronts.
In the meantime, and as I’ve said before, there is maybe a learning in this for Yu himself. The consumer boss claimed a new “faster than Android” OS would be available soon after the blacklist came into effect. As it transpired, though, we were given HarmonyOS which isn’t a replacement for Android on smartphones at all. And then, when Google dropped its support for the Mate 30, Yu told us that the phones would be unlocked as a workaround. Now that doesn’t seem to be the case. There’s maybe some message management required.
This doesn’t rule out some other option being found, but it is hard to see how the company can workaround the lack of Google Mobile Services on its devices without such a move. “How this choice will impact those wanting to sideload Google Play Services,” Android Authority commented, “is as yet unknown and we don’t yet know if this decision may be revised in future. With no Google Play Services and no Google apps out of the box, the Mate 30 series has a pretty serious uphill battle on its hands in the West—Huawei declined to comment any further on the bootloader situation.”
Earlier I reported that Huawei has taken the next steps in its moves to widen the developer ecosystem for its own variant of unlicensed Android and its emerging HarmonyOS alternative. In reality, this is the direction of travel for the company in lieu of a significant change in Washington’s stance. The prize for getting this right will be huge, but the company will shed users on the way as they likely elect to stick with the tried and tested full-fat Android they have today. Huawei will keep focused on the long game and the rest of us will watch to see what happens.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/zakdof...ms-another-nasty-surprise-for-mate-30-buyers/
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