Shift in Afghan approach: Kabul promised to dismantle TTP safe havens

[xyxmt]

India has continually supported terrorism within our borders. It is time for India to stop training terrorists in Afghanistan to be used against Pakistan. The Mariot attacks too were a blueprint of RAW and CIA.

We on the other hand need to do something to improve relations with Afghanistan and make them feel secure with us as a neighbor. It is unfortunate that they do not respect the durand line.

you cant request an enemy to stop attacking you, you will have to hit back and harder and thats the only way to stop them. Once our western borders are safer, move troops back to eastern borders and unleash Lashkars

 

[Irfan Baloch]

omg

@Oscar this dude is threatened to murder innocent people

innocent people?
Afghanistan is a war zone and godforsaken place . even its native citizens have been living in other countries for past 4 or 5 decades

"those" who decide to come and work on behalf of their countries are not innocent but part of the black ops.. in places that are close to the borders and have no social, commercial or economic objective but are only meant for subversion and war of attrition. Americans know it and admit it and Stupid Northern Alliance openly boasts about their presence and purpose.

"that dude" is only advocating to take out those people who are specifically assigned the task of financing and recruiting terrorists to kill people in Pakistan and blow up its infrastructure. so I understand where he is coming from.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Ironically every single Pakistani neighbour complains off terrorism emanating from Pakistan effecting their country..some of it being state sponsored others being spontaneously bred from fertile lands of Af-Pak.

see what this American dude is saying about India

 

[noksss]

Just wait till Ajit Doval's Kabul visit with some handbags loads of cash and you'll see what we have already seen from Afghanistan. If there is to be peace in Afghanistan we unfortunately would have to ramp up the proxy war in India, including supporting Khalistanis and Naxals if needed. Moreover we need to ramp up attacks against Indians in Afghanistan with no regard for Indian civilians there. They too must be regarded as enemy combatants.

Your are in the current state for exactly the same reason and you want to do the same more.

 

[Metanoia]

The core reason that a large segment of Afghan population comprising of various ethnicity have an absolute resentment against Pakistan is due to the fact that Pakistan supported the monstrosity and injustice of Taliban regime. Pakistan facilitated the extremist/murderous/jihadi ideology and other assorted groups which had a profound impact on Afghanistan and its population.

Pakistan danced to the tune of the Yanks, Petro-Dollar and Arab terrorist groups(which later emerged as Al-Qaeda) and we not only managed to ruin ourselves....but we helped ruin Afghanistan as well.

It was nothing more than a Soviet vs. American thing...Afghanistan was quite a normal country until the Yanks with their petro-dollar and with Pakistan as their lackey started brewing trouble there.

Strategic Depth could have been achieved in a much better manner....there was no need to alienate Ahmad Shah Masood and the other ethnic groups. Pakistan could've built infrastructure, roads, schools...should've acted like a big brother as it was suppose to.

 

[hornbill]

The core reason that a large segment of Afghan population comprising of various ethnicity have an absolute resentment against Pakistan is due to the fact that Pakistan supported the monstrosity and injustice of Taliban regime. Pakistan facilitated the extremist/murderous/jihadi ideology and other assorted groups which had a profound impact on Afghanistan and its population.

Pakistan danced to the tune of the Yanks, Petro-Dollar and Arab terrorist groups(which later emerged as Al-Qaeda) and we not only managed to ruin ourselves....but we helped ruin Afghanistan as well.

It was nothing more than a Soviet vs. American thing...Afghanistan was quite a normal country until the Yanks with their petro-dollar and with Pakistan as their lackey started brewing trouble there.

Strategic Depth could have been achieved in a much better manner....there was no need to alienate Ahmad Shah Masood and the other ethnic groups. Pakistan could've built infrastructure, roads, schools...should've acted like a big brother as it was suppose to.

Thanks, India is doing just that. That's why the Afghans love India. India also supports the joining of Pakhtuns across both sides of the border and live with freedom.

 

[Metanoia]

Thanks, India is doing just that. That's why the Afghans love India. India also supports the joining of Pakhtuns across both sides of the border and live with freedom.

Well the Indians are doing the smart thing vis-a-vis Afghanistan...something which Pakistan should've done but unfortunately it was too busy being a lackey and turning into a mullah state.

But let me tell you that the Pashtuns on either side of the borders are quite different...our borders are not changing anytime soon buddy. The State of Pakistan is here to stay and exist....however the question is in which sort of condition it wants to exist? Miserable or Prosperous...

 

[k_arura]

ISLAMABAD: The new administration in Kabul has assured Pakistan that it will take action against alleged sanctuaries of the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and its affiliates on the Afghan soil in a significant move which suggests increased anti-terror cooperation between the two neighbours.

The assurance came from President Ashraf Ghani during his talks with Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and army chief General Raheel Sharif in his just-concluded maiden trip to Islamabad, officials familiar with the development told The Express Tribune.

A security official while speaking on condition of anonymity said there was a visible shift in Afghanistan’s approach since the new government took over in September this year. “We have had very frank and candid discussions with the Afghan president and he agreed that terrorist sanctuaries will be dismantled on the Afghan side of the border,” he disclosed.

The commitment was given after Ghani was briefed ‘with evidence’ that Pakistan’s ongoing operation in North Waziristan Agency was targeting ‘terrorists of all shades’, including the deadly Haqqani Network. “There is no ambiguity in our policy now. We are treating all militant outfits, including the Haqqanis, as a threat to peace,” the official insisted.

The paradigm shift is apparently attributed to army chief General Raheel Sharif who, according to sources, has a clear stance on the war on terror unlike his predecessor.

Officials said the Afghan president welcomed Pakistan’s push against militants and made it clear that his administration would not allow any militant group, including those from the TTP, to find refuge on Afghan soil.

Islamabad has long been seeking decisive action against the TTP sanctuaries in the northeastern Afghan provinces of Kunar and Nuristan. In the past, Pakistan had even accused Afghan security agencies of supporting the TTP and its affiliates to further their interests.

However, with the change of government in Kabul, Islamabad is hoping that Afghan authorities would eliminate TTP ‘safe havens.’

Relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan remained tense during former Afghan president Hamid Karzai’s 13-year rule. Karzai often accused Pakistan’s security establishment of sheltering Afghan insurgents, a charge Islamabad strongly denies. But unlike Karzai, his successor struck a reconciliatory note during his visit and avoided blame game.

The Express Tribune has learnt that a considerable progress has been achieved to evolve a new security mechanism under which security forces of the two countries would increase cooperation in the post-2014 scenario.

An official said currently Pakistan, Afghanistan and the US-led Nato forces had a trilateral arrangement to deal with border issues as well as fighting militants. Now the focus has shifted from trilateral to a bilateral approach.

The renewed offer from Gen Raheel to train Afghan security forces is part of that policy that would help strengthen military-to-military ties. The Afghan president is believed to have given a positive response to Pakistan’s offer, which was not accepted previously by his predecessor.

Shift in Afghan approach: Kabul promised to dismantle TTP safe havens – The Express Tribune

Pakistan asking other countries not to allow of use of their soil by terrorists against Pakistan is laughable at best. Coming from a country whose foreign policy has been based on using Non-))state "actors" as an instrument of state policy since its inception, I am sure is causing some chuckled behind closed doors.

 

[hornbill]

Well the Indians are doing the smart thing vis-a-vis Afghanistan...something which Pakistan should've done but unfortunately it was too busy being a lackey and turning into a mullah state.

But let me tell you that the Pashtuns on either side of the borders are quite different...our borders are not changing anytime soon buddy. The State of Pakistan is here to stay and exist....however the question is in which sort of condition it wants to exist? Miserable or Prosperous...

Maybe Pakistan should absorb the Pashtun part of Afghanistan and have a larger Pahstun area within Pakistan borders. That will solve a lot of problems I think.

 

[k_arura]

The core reason that a large segment of Afghan population comprising of various ethnicity have an absolute resentment against Pakistan is due to the fact that Pakistan supported the monstrosity and injustice of Taliban regime. Pakistan facilitated the extremist/murderous/jihadi ideology and other assorted groups which had a profound impact on Afghanistan and its population.

Pakistan danced to the tune of the Yanks, Petro-Dollar and Arab terrorist groups(which later emerged as Al-Qaeda) and we not only managed to ruin ourselves....but we helped ruin Afghanistan as well.

It was nothing more than a Soviet vs. American thing...Afghanistan was quite a normal country until the Yanks with their petro-dollar and with Pakistan as their lackey started brewing trouble there.

Strategic Depth could have been achieved in a much better manner....there was no need to alienate Ahmad Shah Masood and the other ethnic groups. Pakistan could've built infrastructure, roads, schools...should've acted like a big brother as it was suppose to.

Please stop trying to paint Pak as some little kid being used by others. This ruse finds no more takers in the international community anymore. If its a kid, then they find it to be a real devilish and evil kid

 

[Metanoia]

Maybe Pakistan should absorb the Pashtun part of Afghanistan and have a larger Pahstun area within Pakistan borders. That will solve a lot of problems I think.

Afghanistan belongs to the Afghans...the Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek etc. and many Pashtuns themselves will never allow this. As I said...in 2014 we're still the only nation available with polio...how are we to "absorb" anything else?

 

[Metanoia]

Please stop trying to paint Pak as some little kid being used by others. This ruse finds no more takers in the international community anymore. If its a kid, then they find it to be a real devilish and evil kid

What are ya on about? You should probably read my post again...try to understand what I am on about.

 

[k_arura]

Well the Indians are doing the smart thing vis-a-vis Afghanistan...something which Pakistan should've done but unfortunately it was too busy being a lackey and turning into a mullah state.

But let me tell you that the Pashtuns on either side of the borders are quite different...our borders are not changing anytime soon buddy. The State of Pakistan is here to stay and exist....however the question is in which sort of condition it wants to exist? Miserable or Prosperous...

I find it funny when Paks get suddenly defensive about their borders (ala 1971?). These protestations are less about confidence than about insecurities. Pak right now is whistling in the dark

 

[hornbill]

Afghanistan belongs to the Afghans...the Tajik, Hazara, Uzbek etc. and many Pashtuns themselves will never allow this. As I said...in 2014 we're still the only nation available with polio...how are we to "absorb" anything else?

I think one of the problem is the Durand line. Criminals keep crossing borders both ways to escape. So if the borders are taken out and under one government these crimials will have no place to hide. Pakistan is better positioned to absorb Afghan part of Pashtun because its a stronger govt.

 

[k_arura]

What are ya on about? You should probably read my post again...try to understand what I am on about.

I object to Pak dancing to others' tunes. It was the director/producer of the tune.