Shia community under the banner of RSS vows to support BJP in 2019

[randomradio]

Those people were arrested and had death sentences given. Did you agree with the mass murder and rape, which was organised by the state happening after?

The state had no hand in it.

There are always people who take matters into their own hands. Most of the victims were part of the early attacks, before the state put a stop to it.

Do you know that many fringe Hindu groups are actually protected by the Congress?

 

[waz]

The state had no hand in it.

There are always people who take matters into their own hands. Most of the victims were part of the early attacks, before the state put a stop to it.

Do you know that many fringe Hindu groups are actually protected by the Congress?

The state was 100% behind it and it's been proven in many documents including admissions by the rioters themselves.....
As for Congress that is true, but the worst riots have happened under the BJP.
Anyway it's your country and people. I can't change or influence anything, it's worth a discussion though.

 

[BHarwana]

The state had no hand in it.

There are always people who take matters into their own hands. Most of the victims were part of the early attacks, before the state put a stop to it.

Do you know that many fringe Hindu groups are actually protected by the Congress?

Sir states hand was in not delivering justice and letting Modi go free.

 

[randomradio]

It was hard to bring them to justice. But anyway.

It's hard to do anything in a third world country. But justice has been served.

The same court also gave a clean chit to Modi because he had nothing to do with the riots.
https://www.indiatoday.in/elections...stioning-clean-chit-to-modi-188546-2014-04-11

The SIT report was quite thorough. The guilty were punished.

 

[BHarwana]

It's hard to do anything in a third world country. But justice has been served.

The same court also gave a clean chit to Modi because he had nothing to do with the riots.
https://www.indiatoday.in/elections...stioning-clean-chit-to-modi-188546-2014-04-11

The SIT report was quite thorough. The guilty were punished.

Sir more than 3500 people died and how many are punished in your through investigation?

It take 5 people to kill one in a riot. on a rough note.

Can you tell me how many are given capital punishment in India for Riots

 

[El Sidd]

El Sidd demands that the Hajj pilgrimage mentions this in the Khutba.

Then some People say I am pure Evil.

 

[randomradio]

The state was 100% behind it and it's been proven in many documents including admissions by the rioters themselves.....
As for Congress that is true, but the worst riots have happened under the BJP.
Anyway it's your country and people. I can't change or influence anything, it's worth a discussion though.

Sir states hand was in not delivering justice and letting Modi go free.

Nope. The SIT cleared the state.

The fact that 10 years of Congress rule in India couldn't find any proof of a BJP ruled state committing crimes is proof of that. You guys do know that Congress was in power during the investigations right?

https://www.news18.com/news/india/how-sit-report-exonerates-modi-the-highlights-473243.html
"Law and order review meetings were held by Modi and all the things was done to control the situation... the Army was called on time to contain the communal violence."

"Modi was busy with steps to control the situation, establishment of relief camps for riot victims and also with efforts to restore peace and normalcy."

"In view of the detailed inquiry and satisfactory explanation of the person involved, no criminal case is made out against Narendra Modi."

You lot will do well to remember that a lot of Hindu-Muslim violence in India is primarily gang violence. Very little to do with religion or politics. That spiralled out of control during Godhra.

 

[HariPrasad]

Shias have realized that their potential danger is not Hindus and RSS but somebody else.

 

[BHarwana]

Shias have realized that their potential danger is not Hindus and RSS but somebody else.

Poor Shias have no option If they go against BJP they will be killed again.

But this Waseem Rizvi is a traitor.

 

[randomradio]

Sir more than 3500 people died and how many are punished in your through investigation?

It take 5 people to kill one in a riot. on a rough note.

Can you tell me how many are given capital punishment in India for Riots

I would recommend reading the Wikipedia page at the minimum so you know the actual death toll and the demographics of the victims first.

 

[BHarwana]

I would recommend reading the Wikipedia page at the minimum so you know the actual death toll and the demographics of the victims first.

Sir people who don't know need to read the info I know what actually happened there.

 

[Shamsher1990]

Asalamu Alaikum

Nah, but the Quran, sahih hadees and reputable Islamic scholars are.

Siding with Harbis against other Muslims makes you a Kafir, this is indisputable fact.

And siding with US, the biggest Harbis of all still keeps you a Muslim and Pak as well? Not to mention when the said Harbis is attacking your 'Ummah' left right and center.

Or calling a nation your brother with the vowed policy of destroying all religion especially Islam in their lands is quite Halal, right? Not to mention being a massive oppressor of Muslims in their land.

@waz
I thought religious discussions or criticizing other people's faith is considered a violation of rules on this board. It seems you have quite a selective application of that rule, eh?

 

[waz]

Nope. The SIT cleared the state.

The fact that 10 years of Congress rule in India couldn't find any proof of a BJP ruled state committing crimes is proof of that. You guys do know that Congress was in power during the investigations right?

https://www.news18.com/news/india/how-sit-report-exonerates-modi-the-highlights-473243.html
"Law and order review meetings were held by Modi and all the things was done to control the situation... the Army was called on time to contain the communal violence."

"Modi was busy with steps to control the situation, establishment of relief camps for riot victims and also with efforts to restore peace and normalcy."

"In view of the detailed inquiry and satisfactory explanation of the person involved, no criminal case is made out against Narendra Modi."

You lot will do well to remember that a lot of Hindu-Muslim violence in India is primarily gang violence. Very little to do with religion or politics. That spiralled out of control during Godhra.

Plenty of evidence to say the contrary but I'm not going to go into it. It's old news.

And siding with US, the biggest Harbis of all still keeps you a Muslim and Pak as well? Not to mention when the said Harbis is attacking your 'Ummah' left right and center.

Or calling a nation your brother with the vowed policy of destroying all religion especially Islam in their lands is quite Halal, right? Not to mention being a massive oppressor of Muslims in their land.

@waz
I thought religious discussions or criticizing other people's faith is considered a violation of rules on this board. It seems you have quite a selective application of that rule, eh?

The US doesn't have lynch mobs raping and killing its minorities, nor do the Chinese, they put insurrection down quickly. What's that got to do with the discussion anyway, and you are complaining about rules?

Your country allowed all the above to happen, gave free hand to the rioters and elected the chap who compared the deaths of Muslims to puppies into power.
As for the religious discussion he wasn't wrong in what he said, but it was one post not more, which I would put a stop to.

 

[Shamsher1990]

The US doesn't have lynch mobs raping and killing its minorities, nor do the Chinese, they put insurrection down quickly. Your country allowed all the above to happen, gave free hand to the rioters and elected the chap who compared the deaths of Muslims to puppies into power.
As for the religious discussion he wasn't wrong in what he said, but it was one post not more, which I would put a stop to.

Oh? So having lynch mob is the standard of helping Harbis, but attacking a Muslim country, killing millions of innocent muslim, bombing wedding parties from sky, raping and burning muslim families in their home, being proud of it and singing song about that, asking Muslims to cut the beard, not to look muslim, not to offer Azaan, not to celebrate eid, imprisoning them for just being muslim, 're-educating' them and ... the list may go on quite for long -- is all fine and dandy and not an issue at all, right?

BTW, the entire thread is filled with quite a few of those said violations. Want me to quote them?

 

[BHarwana]

Plenty of evidence to say the contrary but I'm not going to go into it. It's old news.

This is what UN Human rights had to say about it.

IV. OVERVIEW OF THE ATTACKS AGAINST MUSLIMS

State and Police Participation and Complicity
On the morning of February 27, 2002, the gruesome attack on the Sabarmati Express in Godhra, Gujarat, left fifty-eight dead. The train cars set alight were carrying Hindu kar sevaks (religious volunteers) returning from Ayodhya. By evening, retaliatory attacks against Muslims had begun, including in Rajkot, Vadodara, and Bharuch.50 That same day the Vishwa Hindu Parishad called for a statewide bandh (shut-down) for February 28, a call that according to press reports, its cadre interpreted as a call to action.51 The state's endorsement of the bandh, announced through a press note issued at 8 p.m. on February 27, was taken by the VHP/Bajrang Dal as an endorsement of its stand.52

State support of the bandh also sent a message to the police. A reporter for the Hindu observed that, "In such a situation, the police would always be hesitant to act lest it hurt the interests of the political bosses. And the saffronised police also found a common cause with the criminals to `punish' the minorities."53 The same reporter wrote that, "insiders in the Bharatiya Janata Party admit that the police were under instructions from the Narendra Modi administration not to act firmly."54

By the afternoon of February 27, retaliatory attacks had already begun, including the stabbing of a Muslim man in Vadodara railway station as crowds gathered awaiting the arrival of the Sabarmati Express.55Starting on the morning of February 28, Hindu mobs unleashed a coordinated attack against Muslims in many of Gujarat's towns and cities.56 Despite the state's claims that police were simply overwhelmed by the sheer size of the Hindu mobs-often numbering in the thousands-evidence collected by the media, Indian human rights groups, and Human Rights Watch all point to state sponsorship of the attacks. Eyewitness accounts cited throughout this report, as well as the history of police and political recruitment demonstrate the state's partisan role. In a matter of days, over 850 people are known to have been killed-although unofficial estimates are as high as 2,000. Violence continued as of this writing and has quickly spread to poorly protected rural areas. Accounts of politicians directing the violence are also commonplace. Furthermore, in many cases, police posts and police stations were in close proximity to affected sites.57

https://www.hrw.org/reports/2002/india/India0402-03.htm

Oh? So having lynch mob is the standard of helping Harbis, but attacking a Muslim country, killing millions of innocent muslim, bombing wedding parties from sky, raping and burning muslim families in their home, being proud of it and singing song about that, asking Muslims to cut the beard, not to look muslim, not to offer Azaan, not to celebrate eid, imprisoning them for just being muslim, 're-educating' them and ... the list may go on quite for long -- is all fine and dandy and not an issue at all, right?

BTW, the entire thread is filled with quite a few of those said violations. Want me to quote them?

Sir OP mentioned Shia and we are just discussing that Waseem Rizvi is a traitor and don't represents Shias of India.