Shenyang J-15 aircraft carrier-based aircraft

[Ammyy]

"if you don't pay the price,we will sell it to chinese..."

russian humor

According to Chinese humor ... when your own Jxx is ready with in one year so why you need T50 ?? that was still in development phase

 

[xukxuk]

According to Chinese humor ... when your own Jxx is ready with in one year so why you need T50 ?? that was still in development phase

it will be good to have one to study
and find a way to destroy it

 

[topjumper]

Guys, please give credit where credit is due, Russia's progress on T-50 is ahead of the J-xx (or at least given what we know in public knowledge domain because PLAAF is lip tight on this), we shouldn't dismiss other people's achievements.

 

[faithfulguy]

Allow me the honor of debunking ur claims...




This is the latest news...

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Of course....given China terrible record on maintaining copyrights and its penchant to Ctrl+c,Ctrl+v...no sane country would give China its latest equipment.



Thats because the Ilyushin factory in Tashkent that produces the Il-76 is not functioning properly due to lack of maintenancce after the collapse of the Soviet Union...its not a china specific thing.

Mayb my Russian friend can help me on this.



If the reason we r looking for US/european weapons is not confidence in Russki weapons...do u think we would have invested close to 10 billion dollars in the PAKFA/FGFA project.

Instead we would have gone for the F-35 which was offered to India.

So first get ur facts right.

If India was really offered F-35. Why is India still involve with Pak-fa? The Indian beauracracy couldn't even make the obvious choice of going for a developed platform and opt for a pie in the sky. fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[lhuang]

If India was really offered F-35. Why is India still involve with Pak-fa? The Indian beauracracy couldn't even make the obvious choice of going for a developed platform and opt for a pie in the sky. fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hah, I wonder why.

 

[ptldM3]

If India was really offered F-35. Why is India still involve with Pak-fa? The Indian beauracracy couldn't even make the obvious choice of going for a developed platform and opt for a pie in the sky. fools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Indians can get the fg-fa built to their requirments and specifications. Moreover, the fg-fa will be a twin seat long range mult-role aircraft with an extreemly long range which is something they can't get with the F-35 and something that is in the IAF's doctrine. It should also be noted that India will operate both the single seat air superiority fighter (pak-fa) and the twin seat version (fg-fa), so, no the Indians arn't fools. Further, the F-35 may be a watered down version with restrictions, and lastely the Indians will be gaining valuble knowledge from the pak-fa program. BTW even if the Indians would opt for the F-35 it would only take about a million years before they would receive it.

 

[faithfulguy]

The Indians can get the fg-fa built to their requirments and specifications. Moreover, the fg-fa will be a twin seat long range mult-role aircraft with an extreemly long range which is something they can't get with the F-35 and something that is in the IAF's doctrine. It should also be noted that India will operate both the single seat air superiority fighter (pak-fa) and the twin seat version (fg-fa), so, no the Indians arn't fools. Further, the F-35 may be a watered down version with restrictions, and lastely the Indians will be gaining valuble knowledge from the pak-fa program. BTW even if the Indians would opt for the F-35 it would only take about a million years before they would receive it.

If US would not supply India state of the art weapons, it is because Indian politicians are not good at picking the winning side. If India choose to side with the west and take steps to show that such as cut ties to Russia and join the western alliance, then US would trust India like how we trust England, Japan and Australia. India want to have one foot in Russia camp and another foot in the American camp and no one woud trust India.

 

[indushek]

Qwerty seems like u have eaten something bad so obviously ur not feeling good as seen from ur posts.

And here our Indian and Chinese heads are trying hard strengthen our bilateral relationship and take it to the next level and on the net we just fight on every issue without deep knowledge. Great, no thread is spared from fighting.

 

[Ammyy]

If US would not supply India state of the art weapons, it is because Indian politicians are not good at picking the winning side. If India choose to side with the west and take steps to show that such as cut ties to Russia and join the western alliance, then US would trust India like how we trust England, Japan and Australia. India want to have one foot in Russia camp and another foot in the American camp and no one woud trust India.

Yes you r right no one trust on India .... thts the reason every one offer us their best weapons but our most trusted partner is Russia ..
USA interested in friendship with India because of China, every one know that.

 

[ptldM3]

If US would not supply India state of the art weapons, it is because Indian politicians are not good at picking the winning side.

And what constitutes the "winning side"?

If India choose to side with the west and take steps to show that such as cut ties to Russia and join the western alliance, then US would trust India like how we trust England, Japan and Australia. India want to have one foot in Russia camp and another foot in the American camp and no one woud trust India.

Could it be that the single seat and limited range F-35 doesn't meat the IAF's requirments? And could it be that the pak-fa/fg-fa can be custom tailord to the IAF's requirments? This not only includes the desgn but also avionics and if the IAF wishes they can include a mix of Israeli, Russian and Indian avionics in the pak-fa/fg-fa while the F-35 will likely not allow any modifications.

 

[Bhairava]

@faithfulguy, even if we order F-35 now it would start deliver in 2022

 

[below_freezing]

there is no chance of india being able to even support the logistics for F-35. if india got the F-35 then it'll have to deal with the logistics of planes from 4 countries, all with different parts shooting different missiles and requiring different maintainance teams. it's better for india to stick with domestic and russian airframes since india already has the setup and expertise in that area.

 

[gubbi]

there is no chance of india being able to even support the logistics for F-35. if india got the F-35 then it'll have to deal with the logistics of planes from 4 countries, all with different parts shooting different missiles and requiring different maintainance teams. it's better for india to stick with domestic and russian airframes since india already has the setup and expertise in that area.

Go on... enlighten us with more of your pearls of wisdom.

Btw, FYI, IAF already flies aircraft from 4 different countries. Guess you happen to know more about IAF's logistical nightmares than IAF personnel.

 

[uday]

guys!!!!
it's not about india buying F-35...we are talking about china's junk j-15 is been down played by Russia due to j-15 quality standards...

 

[dingyibvs]

Yes you r right no one trust on India .... thts the reason every one offer us their best weapons but our most trusted partner is Russia ..
USA interested in friendship with India because of China, every one know that.

Very true, both Russia and the west want to use India as a counter balance to China, so it's obvious who they view as the greater threat with the greater potential.