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'Shamsung' smartphones strain India-China ties

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Micromax, lava, xolo, lemon, etc etc are all importing mobile phone parts from China and assembling in India. They're not manufacturing a single part in India! And people are fooled to believe that they're buying made in India smartphone :mad:
 
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LOL!!! :laugh: Would love to see one of these here in the states.
 
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When you have a huge industrial base with suppliers etc it's easy to manufacture but to save money some prefer to copy famous product, it does not mean there are no quality companies. But when you don't have any manufacturing industry you can do nothing...except posting on the internet from a Chinese manufactured computer. Anyway I have to say some of these copies are pretty hilarious :D
As they develop many of those small companies start to make they own products.
 
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Why is there so much hatred for Chinese ingenuity... It's supply and demand baby.
 
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Why is there so much hatred for Chinese ingenuity... It's supply and demand baby.
chinese made fake products are flooding the market and hurting original companies. It needs to be stopped.
There are many chinese brands like zte and huwei which are good in what they offer. Most Indian branded phones and even iphone are all made in china so nobody is saying chinese manufacturing process is wrong, they are the best.
 
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chinese made fake products are flooding the market and hurting original companies. It needs to be stopped.
There are many chinese brands like zte and huwei which are good in what they offer. Most Indian branded phones and even iphone are all made in china so nobody is saying chinese manufacturing process is wrong, they are the best.

Yar, it offers the poor people some "variety" my old driver god rest his soul, used to have a fake blackberry called VeryBerry and it had android, analogue TV, touch screen, a 5mp camera and I looked at him and said, Chacha how much did you get this for, and he replied 7,000 rupees... 7k for that... Amazing value if you ask me.
 
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As they develop many of those small companies start to make they own products.

As the article states, many of the copies are made by the same companies that manufacture the originals. Samsung and Shamsung roll out of the same production lines.
 
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As the article states, many of the copies are made by the same companies that manufacture the originals. Samsung and Shamsung roll out of the same production lines.

yup.

This fake iPhone 4 will set you back 4,500 rupees.
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@RescueRanger ^^^^ This only gives you an idea the kind of markups (profits) the big internationals are making.
lot of money is spent in branding, R & D, market research. You need to have lot of money to compete against big brands. Then there are taxes and shipping cost.
In any case companies are here to make money, how they position the product depends on them.
 
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Guys ..we should be honest to admit that there is a good amount of demand to duplicate goods in India too...This is all about demand and supply....People who are buying these products may not be brand consc people...So for them it is not a bad deal....



MUMBAI, India -- A looming problem for China-India economic relations looks like an iPhone, sounds like an iPhone and acts like an iPhone. But it isn't an iPhone.

A flood of counterfeits and knockoffs from China, alongside legitimate goods, are drowning Indian industry. Chinese companies are ripping away chunks of India's low-end market.

Signs of local disgruntlement are growing. India's top Chamber of Commerce body earlier this year sounded a warning about the coming crisis for national industry if nothing is done to stop the China crisis.

The proliferation of fake products supplied by underground Chinese makers is conspicuous in India's fast-growing smartphone market. But Chinese influence cuts a wide swath across the industrial landscape of the nation. Low-priced imports from China are causing sharp falls in the prices of all kinds of consumer electronics and household electric appliances in the subcontinent.

Hurting the little guy

Made-in-China products are also flooding into Indian markets served mainly by small and midsize local companies. The deluge of Chinese imports is beginning to further strain a tense bilateral relationship, which is traditionally prickly because of a territorial dispute.

Indian consumers are for now embracing cut-price Chinese offerings. That may not be the case if they find themselves out of work because of relentless competition from low-cost manufacturers over the border.

Take a walk through and Indian market and the scale of the issue becomes clear. Fake Chinese cellphones are clearly visible in the sprawling black markets of Mumbai, the country's biggest commercial center.

Legions of vendors spend their days selling counterfeit Samsung Electronics and Taiwan's HTC phones. Cheaper look-alikes can also be bought with little fuss. Hordes of eager shoppers bustle through the warren of cramped shops, haggling over prices.

Sales clerks ask shoppers whether they want the real thing or counterfeits. In the back of stores, clones of smartphones from leading manufacturers such as Apple, Samsung and HTC fill the shelves. Shoppers walk away with fakes that cost less than half of the price of the the real things. Some phones go for as little as 3,000 rupees ($48.1).

Throngs of underground companies in China churn out shanzhai cellphones at very low costs. The Chinese word shanzhai originally means mountain stronghold of bandits. The term is often used today to mean "outside of government supervision" or "evading tax or copyright laws" and, by extension, "knockoff" or "imitation."

Shanzhai cellphones, called "China mobile" in India, have captured massive market share in the country as many consumers prioritize getting a bargain over service guarantees. Chinese manufacturers have a competitive advantage because they evade tax, regulatory fees and safety checks at home.

A 30-something living in Mumbai said he knew fake mobile phones tended to break easily. But that did not matter to him. A genuine smartphone was out of his price range, he said.

Trade imbalance

India's once vibrant economy is losing steam. Growth rates are significantly slowing. The country's market for smartphones, however, is expanding at a breakneck pace.

Low-priced products launched by Indian makers such as Micromax have made smartphones affordable for more of the population. Many of cut-cost offerings from Indian markers are made in China.

The Indian smartphone market is awash with products manufactured in China, because the same factories produce the Samsungs and the Shamsungs.

Chinese products are also making deep inroads into the Indian market for electrical appliances. Indian companies typically import nonbrand products from China and sell them in India at extremely low prices, a senior executive at a Japanese appliance maker said.

India's smartphone market is a microcosm of what is going on at a macro level. The country runs a chronic and growing trade deficit with China.

In the fiscal year through March 2013, India exported some $13.5 billion worth of goods to China and imported $52.2 billion's worth. The government in New Delhi wants to narrow the trade gap.

Consumers in India benefit from the bargains, but the trade imbalance is a source of economic tension between the countries.

Numerous industries are beginning to get disgruntled. In Gujarat's ceramic industry, which mainly makes tiles and sanitary ware, local small and midsize players face the abyss. Low-priced ceramic imports from China are growing at dizzy annual rates of around 40%, posing a serious threat to local makers, which are also facing rising costs of fuel and materials. The bottom lines for Indian ceramic makers are sinking rapidly.

Should that matter to consumers? Probably. Sometimes you get more than you bargained for when you spend on Made in China.
 
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All the Indians laughing, i'm assuming you guys don't live in India.

At less than 2000 per capital, the average indian should earn much less than that probably less than half.

that means even if they were to use their entire pay check of the year they can only buy the phone and can't pay the monthly fees.

What's wrong with China providing a product for them.

You think we don't like making money? Course we do, but indians and Chinese, at this time can't afford the good stuff, so, it is what it is.
 
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All the Indians laughing, i'm assuming you guys don't live in India.

At less than 2000 per capital, the average indian should earn much less than that probably less than half.

that means even if they were to use their entire pay check of the year they can only buy the phone and can't pay the monthly fees.

What's wrong with China providing a product for them.

You think we don't like making money? Course we do, but indians and Chinese, at this time can't afford the good stuff, so, it is what it is.


Although it sounds rude ....But i agree with you...But the issue is that rather than the brands try to trick people with fuzzy name, then can really create a brand in itself and try to market the product....That would be the ideal way ....
 
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