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Iran is a great and historic nation state, it's society has been responsible for the creation of the greatest of cultures, the most sublime of literature - and look how low it has fallen in the name of a religiosity that seeks and makes Enemies - a petty spirit - Indeed it seems the Iranian like almost all so called Muslim majority societies, now see it's mission as FORCING people inot the halls of heaven, at the pain of death -- La Iqra Fid Deen



Friday, September 30, 2011 8:49 AM EDT
Iranian Pastor Sentenced to Death: Attorney Hopeful of Acquittal

The attorney for an Iranian Christian pastor who is facing the death penalty for the crime of apostasy said he is optimistic his client will be acquitted and freed.

Youcef Naderkhani has refused to renounce his Christian faith in a case that has sparked global fury against Iran and appeals for clemency.

According to a report in BBC, Naderkhani’s lawyer, Mohammad Ali Dadkhah, said there was a 95 percent chance he will be freed.

U.S. House Speaker John Boehner also has already spoken out against Iran.

"While Iran's government claims to promote tolerance, it continues to imprison many of its people because of their faith. This goes beyond the law to an issue of fundamental respect for human dignity. I urge Iran's leaders to abandon this dark path, spare [Nadarkhani's] life, and grant him a full and unconditional release," said Boehner.

Naderkhani, 32, reportedly was born Muslim and converted to Christianity at the age of 19. He became a pastor of a 400-person Church of Iran congregation in the northern city of Rasht.

He was arrested two years ago and sentenced to death in 2010 by a court of appeals. His crime was apostasy, or abandoning his Muslim faith
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Iran’s Supreme Court said Naderkhani could be freed if he renounced his Christian religion.

The Right Reverend Michael Nazir-Ali, the former Anglican Bishop of Rochester, told BBC: "As a Christian I can't do that [refute my faith]. In a much lesser way I have faced these questions myself, and I would ask for myself for strength in this situation and courage, and that is what I would ask for him. But at the same time to ask that understanding and compassion and clemency be exercised by those who are in authority."

Nazir-Ali sad Iranians are likely concerned about the growth of Christianity in the country and may want to make an example of Naderhkani.

He added that the death penalty has not been imposed in Iran in such a case since 1990.

Before his last hearing Wednesday, Nadarkhani had been given three previous chances to repent, and all three times he has refused. After his final refusal Wednesday, no verdict has been announced, but many expect that he could be put to death as soon as Friday.

Even if the sentence were commuted, Nadarkhani could still face life in prison. And even if he were released, there would still be danger.

"In Iran about 18 years ago, they had released a pastor, but then came and assassinated him and his bishop later. We cannot stop the pressure," Pastor Firouz Sadegh-Khandjani, a Member of the Council of Elders for the Church of Iran, told the American Center for Law and Justice.

Between June 2010 and January 2011, more than 200 people in Iran were arrested for their religious beliefs, according to Elam Ministries, a United Kingdom-based church with ties to Iran.

In August, a pastor named Haghnejad was arrested for the third time, according to Christian Solidarity. Police also confiscated 6,500 bibles, which Iran's social issues committee deemed were being used to deceive youths
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"In Iran about 18 years ago, they had released a pastor, but then came and assassinated him and his bishop later. We cannot stop the pressure," Pastor Firouz Sadegh-Khandjani, a Member of the Council of Elders for the Church of Iran, told the American Center for Law and Justice.

Between June 2010 and January 2011, more than 200 people in Iran were arrested for their religious beliefs, according to Elam Ministries, a United Kingdom-based church with ties to Iran.

The Iranian state bears full responsibility for this - and the Iranian people should feel ashamed that one of their own, has to be arrested, tried and convicted because of his FAITH in God -- this is entirely sad and shameful
 
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The Iranian state bears full responsibility for this - and the Iranian people should feel ashamed that one of their own, has to be arrested, tried and convicted because of his FAITH in God -- this is entirely sad and shameful

isn't it some people who say "their country their rules". this is exactly the same thing. their country their rules, go be butthurt somewhere else.
 
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The Iranian state bears full responsibility for this - and the Iranian people should feel ashamed that one of their own, has to be arrested, tried and convicted because of his FAITH in God -- this is entirely sad and shameful

If its true. We know Iran is a victim of an expensive propaganda effort by zionists and americans
 
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If its true. We know Iran is a victim of an expensive propaganda effort by zionists and americans

That's not up to your usual -- it's true and sad - There is just something very very wrong in our, that is to say Muslim, understand of Islam - La Iqra Fid Deen - is not just a religious value, it's a societal value yet we have set it aside, WHY? Is the world richer by having another Muslim who is to be forced into the halls of heaven at gun point? How have we allowed this archaic and entirely unIslamic "sentiment" to dominate our thinking? What kind of society is so insecure as to deny others the freedom of conscience? What are we so afraid of? That others too will refuse to fill heaven at gun point????
 
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If their law suggests so, then every one is supposed to follow that, and violater gets what is written in law. So what is wrong in it?
 
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shame on you for believing zionist garbage. I follow Iranian news 8,9 hours a day and i have not saw a single article about this ''pastor''
does he even exist ?

Maybe you should follow other sources as well - being single sourced does not seem to have served you well - instead of being ashamed you have reacted with the usual denial we have become accustomed to
 
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That's not up to your usual -- it's true and sad - There is just something very very wrong in our, that is to say Muslim, understand of Islam - La Iqra Fid Deen - is not just a religious value, it's a societal value yet we have set it aside, WHY? Is the world richer by having another Muslim who is to be forced into the halls of heaven at gun point? How have we allowed this archaic and entirely unIslamic "sentiment" to dominate our thinking? What kind of society is so insecure as to deny others the freedom of conscience? What are we so afraid of? That others too will refuse to fill heaven at gun point????

I accept the sentiment behind your thinking but the fact is that iran is a victim of a powerful propaganda machinery. I have no doubt that there are problems with various interpretations of islam. And yes we should examone them. But as you are keen to point there are just as bad if not worse lot over in Saudi that dont seem to get the same propaganda that we get for Iran. I reject your personal comment about my posts. Yours on the whole normally are quite good but on occasion you do get a bit excitable and you know where i mean
 
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isn't it some people who say "their country their rules". this is exactly the same thing. their country their rules, go be butthurt somewhere else.

Some laws are simply intolerable, much like some cultural practices are simply intolerable. This is one of them. Human sacrifice would be a cultural practice that is intolerable.

Basically would you see it justified if preaching islam was punishable by death in Norway?
 
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Maybe you should follow other sources as well - being single sourced does not seem to have served you well - instead of being ashamed you have reacted with the usual denial we have become accustomed to

You cannot ignore the fact that zionists do go overboard on their propaganda on iran

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Some laws are simply intolerable, much like some cultural practices are simply intolerable. This is one of them. Human sacrifice would be a cultural practice that is intolerable.

Basically would you see it justified if preaching islam was punishable by death in Norway?

I agree with the gist of what you are saying its just when you hear so much propaganda sometimes you cant see the wood for the tree
 
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