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Shall China deliver 36 J10B free of charge to Pakistan?

Shall China deliver 2 sqadrons of J10B to PAF free of Charge?

  • China shall make 2 squadrons of J10b free of Charge

    Votes: 21 31.8%
  • soft loan only

    Votes: 34 51.5%
  • without loan

    Votes: 11 16.7%

  • Total voters
    66
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unless there is a khancha (bribe) in free stuff our nation (read: our politicians) would not be interested in it .... appreciate the gesture though
 
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Shall China deliver 36 J10B free of charge to Pakistan?

Why not ? Pakistani and Chini are both bhais and I see no problem with China helping out a bhai and also an ally at the same time !

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I like to point out that vast majority of Islamic terrorism in China can be traced to Pakistan one way or the other, through Gulf States funding. Now I am not saying that the government of Pakistan is supporting these people, but there are certainly factions within the Pakistan military/government that are sympathetic to them. More and more Wahabists are now infiltrating Xinjiang and Yunnan. Until we can be sure that Pakistan is fully onboard with China, military aid should be reduced. Islamic extremism is now one of the major internal problems of China, and their religious doctrine cannot sit peacefully with China's mainstream culture.

Even if Pakistan cleans up its own backyard, China should not provide anything for free. Every bolt made in China is paid for by taxpayers in China, and just because you have some "warm and fuzzy" feelings towards Pakistan, does not mean everyone should open their wallet for your silly ideas. If you like, feel free to donate all your assets to Pakistan, but don't drag the rest with you. I shouldn't have to remind you that Mao has been dead for over 3 decades, yet some people have not evolved their mentality of being naïve.

Lastly, 国与国之间只有永恒的利益,没有永恒的友谊. Feel free to post the same topic on a serious Chinese military discussion board, and see how fast you get laughed out of town.
Pakistan is not a terrorist country, she always help to maintain stability in Xingjiang province. Take back your stupid words, Mao ze Dong is the man who lead China to independance not you. Pakistan need our support in anti terrorist war, the money will be properly used than buying USA junk bond. Pakistan is awalys our brother, history tells everything.
 
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Pakistan is not a terrorist country, she always help to maintain stability in Xingjiang province. Take back your stupid words, Mao ze Dong is the man who lead China to independance not you. Pakistan need our support in anti terrorist war, the money will be properly used than buying USA junk bond. Pakistan is awalys our brother, history tells everything.

Ignore S10, he just wants to get 'thanks' from his Indian buddies.

Pakistan is our ally and we will continue to give our best weapons to them. Whatever technology we develop will go to Pakistan eventually.
 
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Pakistan is not a terrorist country, she always help to maintain stability in Xingjiang province. Take back your stupid words, Mao ze Dong is the man who lead China to independance not you. Pakistan need our support in anti terrorist war, the money will be properly used than buying USA junk bond. Pakistan is awalys our brother, history tells everything.

Xingjiang's issues can be solved with socioeconomic development of the people of Xinjiang. Pakistan recognizes it as a part of PRC AND therefore they are your countrymen, its your responsibility to take care of human development there.

@S10 is an ignorant, he doesn't know that CIA has been active in that Chinese province for more than 30 years, they are using the same terrorist apparatus against Pakistan and China we call the TTP. If Pakistan wanted to harm the PRC, we would have allowed the CIA to carry out its business as usual, instead of hunting down and deporting its operatives.

If S10 wants to blame the Pakistani state, because some terrorists are using Pakistan's war zone area for training the insurgents from Xinjiang than i can only feel sorry for him. Pakistani state doesn't have control over some bits of territory close to the Afghanistan border, where they are getting active help from the CIA bankrolled contractors [mercenary armies like Blackwater & the company].
 
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I like to point out that vast majority of Islamic terrorism in China can be traced to Pakistan one way or the other, through Gulf States funding. Now I am not saying that the government of Pakistan is supporting these people, but there are certainly factions within the Pakistan military/government that are sympathetic to them. More and more Wahabists are now infiltrating Xinjiang and Yunnan. Until we can be sure that Pakistan is fully onboard with China, military aid should be reduced. Islamic extremism is now one of the major internal problems of China, and their religious doctrine cannot sit peacefully with China's mainstream culture.

Even if Pakistan cleans up its own backyard, China should not provide anything for free. Every bolt made in China is paid for by taxpayers in China, and just because you have some "warm and fuzzy" feelings towards Pakistan, does not mean everyone should open their wallet for your silly ideas. If you like, feel free to donate all your assets to Pakistan, but don't drag the rest with you. I shouldn't have to remind you that Mao has been dead for over 3 decades, yet some people have not evolved their mentality of being naïve.

Lastly, 国与国之间只有永恒的利益,没有永恒的友谊. Feel free to post the same topic on a serious Chinese military discussion board, and see how fast you get laughed out of town.

What a total clown you are!

Yes Islamic extremists are a major problem but the biggest problem is the spread of Christianity in China through foreign missionaries and NGOs. The west wants to spread their religion in China to convert us to their religion so that more Chinese will sympathise with western policies.

Spread of Christianity is a far greater threat than Islamic extremism. Islamic extremists are very few that the CPC can crush and their foreign supporters are not powerful to hurt China. But foreign supporters of spreading Christianity in China like US are very powerful.

Christianity is spreading like a cancer in China. Already 200 million Chinese have been converted to Christianity. Pretty soon we will end up like South Korea where a Buddhist country was shrewdly converted to Christianity within a few decades and now South Koreans are the most pro-western and pro-American people in Asia and possibly the world.

China should always be a Buddhist, Taoist, Confucius culture.
 
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china sada mama chacha lagda hai - What is that mean, anyone translate?

He said basically China is not our Uncle to take care of us and that Pakistan needs to step up basically, no freebies.
 
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USA is the origin of all devil, always try to topple our government. Dislike of CCP ideology stuff is just an excuse, they want to control China at it's will. Mao ze dong is not god, but he is definitely an great man in China's history. At his death, he brought Deng Xiao ping back to power, I admire his profound vision.
 
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USA is the origin of all devil, always try to topple our government. Dislike of CCP ideology stuff is just an excuse, they want to control China at it's will. Mao ze dong is not god, but he is definitely an great man in China's history. At his death, he brought Deng Xiao ping back to power, I admire his profound vision.

They know PAC's secret weapon is its political stability. They will use all efforts to bring it down.
 
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What a total clown you are!

Yes Islamic extremists are a major problem but the biggest problem is the spread of Christianity in China through foreign missionaries and NGOs. The west wants to spread their religion in China to convert us to their religion so that more Chinese will sympathise with western policies.

Spread of Christianity is a far greater threat than Islamic extremism. Islamic extremists are very few that the CPC can crush and their foreign supporters are not powerful to hurt China. But foreign supporters of spreading Christianity in China like US are very powerful.

Christianity is spreading like a cancer in China. Already 200 million Chinese have been converted to Christianity. Pretty soon we will end up like South Korea where a Buddhist country was shrewdly converted to Christianity within a few decades and now South Koreans are the most pro-western and pro-American people in Asia and possibly the world.

China should always be a Buddhist, Taoist, Confucius culture.
I am Christian, I love my country as you are. Religion tell you how to love people, not tell you how to act as western henchmen. You have to judge by yourself which is right or wrong. USA is deviating from the way God tell them, they will be punished in the future. China might be the rising force blessed by God to teach them how to behave properly. When the USA president put his hands on the bibile for swear in, he lies to the God.

Any religion instigating people overthrow government shall deemed as heresy, firstly you shall understand the essence of the religion.
 
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The thing is that we need the planes ASAP. Now how do we get them is a different matter. Free would be awesome, but with soft loans also is okay. We just need them urgently.
 
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I am Christian, I love my country as you are. Religion tell you how to love people, not tell you how to act as western henchmen. You have to judge by yourself which is right or wrong. USA is deviating from the way God tell them, they will be punished in the future. China might be the rising force blessed by God to teach them how to behave properly. When the USA president put his hands on the bibile for swear in, he lies to the God.

You might be a pro-China Christian but most Christians in China are pro-west and pro-America. You are just an exception.
Christianity is no longer a religion, it's a political tool used by western powers to control the local populations of countries around the world. America will conquer us without firing a bullet because they have converted us to their religion, converted us to their economic and political system, converted our youth to western culture. We are being westernized through a combination of hard and most importantly soft power. The CPC is either blind to this or they are incredibly corrupt to not put a stop to this and protect Chinese values and culture. This is why I say the CPC is corrupt because I don't believe they are blind to this, they know western powers are infiltrating China very subtlely and yet they just allow it to happen.

Unless these trends are stopped, we will end up as a very rich country but will be a vassal state of the Yankees like Japan and South Korea are now.
 
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You might be a pro-China Christian but most Christians in China are pro-west and pro-America. You are just an exception.
Christianity is no longer a religion, it's a political tool used by western powers to control the local populations of countries around the works. America will conquer us without firing a bullet because they have converted us to their religion, converted us to their economic and political system, converted our youth to western culture. We are being westernized through a combination of hard and most importantly soft power. The CPC is either blind to this or they are incredibly corrupt to put a stop to this and protect Chinese values and culture. This is why I say the CPC is corrupt because I don't believe they are blind to this, they know western powers are infiltrating China very subtlely and they just allow it to happen.

Unless these trends are stopped, we will up as a very rich country but will be a vassal state of the Yankees like Japan and South Korea.
Most terrifying part is not Christian, it's those up brass leaders send their sons and daughter to study and live in western country. Even the leader is western *** liked, why normal civilians? CCP now is undergoing storm of anti corruption. With saving the money from corruption, we could deliver as many J10 b as possible to PAF. Look at the naughty face of Bo xi lai, he is a true motherfucker.大奸似忠,大伪似真。Bo gua gua is still having party in UK when his farther Bo xi lai is under interrogation.
 
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