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Sexual harassment awaits Egyptian girls outside schools

This has nothing to do with democracy, have you forgotten Mubarak's thugs molesting women and beating them up? Egypt always had this problem.
Mona Eltahawy, herself a repeat victim of sexual violence both under Mubarak and afterward, still supports the Revolution. I think she even thinks women are better off now than before. You can tweet her and ask, I suppose.
 
What message, do you have here for Egyptian society?

My replies are to the O/P intentions.

egypt is a 1000s yrs old civilization and a gr8 muslim nation, actions of some individual cant be blamed on the whole country.

sad such things happen and the security agencies and the govt should take action on this.

but blaming the whole nation is wrong.......eg:- every min a women is raped in usa can we call all Americans are rapist?

being logical is the best approach to a problem.
 
Mona Eltahawy, herself a repeat victim of sexual violence both under Mubarak and afterward, still supports the Revolution. I think she even thinks women are better off now than before. You can tweet her and ask, I suppose.

Would you mind posting a new thread about sexual harrasments and rapes in United States?maybe you are not aware that 'The land of free' has one of the highest number of sexual harrassments and rapes in the world.Not to forget the prison rapes in United States,which can be given the god medal for it.

I'm not saying your article is right or wrong about Egypt,but it's good sometimes people take a look at their own country.Acting selective is not very good in such matters.
 
This happens in all the countries , however if the civil society is not able to reply to these thugs then it becomes a serious situation for the young kids ;(
 
Sexual harassment is indeed a problem in Egypt, both verbal and and physical harassment. But blaming the revolution or democracy is just absurd. Violence against women is a global probelm and i think the first step to solve such a behaviour is to recognize the problem and be able to address it and report it freely in the media which is what is happening in Egypt. Last year 9 million tourists visted Egypt despite the unrest in the country. I am sure if it was that much diffrenet from other coutries they would not have visted especially during the unrest due to the uprising againt Mubarak. Violence againt women is a global issue and it needs to be addressed by all nations.
 
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Sexual harassment awaits Egyptian girls outside schools
Manar Ammar | 10 September 2012 |

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Egyptian school girls brace for another year of sexual harassment at the gates of their schools.


Arm yourself up ladies and shoot dead any man lurking outside your school .will serve a potent message to others too.

My replies are to the O/P intentions.

egypt is a 1000s yrs old civilization and a gr8 muslim nation, actions of some individual cant be blamed on the whole country.

sad such things happen and the security agencies and the govt should take action on this.

but blaming the whole nation is wrong.......eg:- every min a women is raped in usa can we call all Americans are rapist?

being logical is the best approach to a problem.
I'll blame whole country and every single man on this earth for this.
 
Arm yourself up ladies and shoot dead any man lurking outside your school .will serve a potent message to others too.

I'll blame whole country and every single man on this earth for this.

:rofl::girl_wacko::moil::smitten:
 
but blaming the whole nation is wrong....
If you don't have a functioning justice system that can address attempted rape, murder, and theft then yes, the entire society is in the wrong.

You'll note that the article points out that under Mubarak the police responded to citizens' complaints with increased protection. Nowadays matters are more dangerous. Why Mona thinks matters have improved is a bit of a puzzle, a contradiction I cannot resolve.
 
Egypt Acknowledges Sexual Harassment Spike Over Holiday

CAIRO — Egypt's president acknowledged the widespread problem of sexual harassment his country Tuesday, ordering his interior minister to investigate a rash of assaults during a just-completed Muslim holiday.

Mohammed Morsi acted after his government reported 735 police complaints about sexual harassment over the four-day Eid al-Adha holiday, which ended Monday.

Morsi stressed the need to fight "all phenomena of moral chaos and abuses, especially harassment in Egyptian streets," spokesman Yasser Ali said in a statement.

The holiday features celebrations, crowded public squares – and widespread harassment of women by men.

Rights activists have faulted Morsi's Islamist government for failing to take action against the wave of sexual assaults. His order Tuesday appeared to be an attempt to counter that charge.

Complaints about the problem, which has long been a feature of Egypt's society, gained prominence during last year's popular uprising that unseated longtime President Hosni Mubarak. Women activists and reporters told of severe assaults by men in Tahrir Square, the focus of the mass protests.

Activists say little, if anything, has changed.

A prominent activist, Azza Suleiman, told the state-owned Al-Ahram newspaper Tuesday that her two sons were assaulted in downtown Cairo during the holiday while trying to protect a group of foreigners, while police stood by watching the incident. She criticized the police and the Interior Ministry for failing to secure the crowded streets.

Last week, Egyptian Prime Minister Hisham Qandil condemned sexual harassment in remarks on his Facebook page, calling it a "catastrophe" that threatens society. Qandil said the Cabinet was preparing a law to impose harsher penalties for sexual harassment. Rights activists have been campaigning for such legislation for years.

Dr. Hani Henry, a psychology professor at the American University in Cairo, said that the widespread notion that women should dress more conservatively in order to reduce sexual harassment on Egypt's streets is one of the biggest impediments to addressing the issue.

"There's a `blaming the victim' mentality," Hany said. He predicted that addressing sexual harassment in Egypt's could be more difficult now that Islamists have emerged as the strongest political power in post-revolutionary Egypt.

Egypt Acknowledges Sexual Harassment Spike Over Holiday
 
What are the girls' dads doing man?

I have mellowed a little in my 30s, but by God I am capable of killing a guy who hurts my girls.
 
Some powerful reflections on the issue:

Sexual Harassment in Egypt: Women Are People, Too


I know a young woman in her twenties who dresses modestly, with her head scarf always firmly planted around her hair and neck. She was walking in the streets in broad daylight when a young man began to harass her viciously. She attempted to ward him off, but he was stronger than she and persisted in his harassment. To her good fortune, a policeman happened to be standing nearby. He arrested the young man and took him down to the local police station. On their way to the precinct, the young woman was surprised to find that everyone she encountered — both men and women — attempted to convince her to abandon the proceedings against the harasser out of concern for his future. One woman who had witnessed the exchange even spoke harshly to the victimized woman and angrily said to her: "Shame on you! Let the boy say he's sorry and go on his way. Better that than ruin his entire future!"

These people knew that the young man had harassed the woman. Doubtless they had daughters and sisters of their own and would never stand for anyone harassing them. But none of them believed that the situation called for legal action against the harasser; instead they felt that protecting the young man's future was far more important than punishing him for his crime.

If the young man had been a thief or a murderer, would they have shown the same degree of empathy and forgiveness? If the young man had been a Copt, a Baha'i or a Shiite and criticized Islam in an unacceptable (to them) manner, would they be so forgiving? Or would they publicly beat him and demand he be put on trial? We all know the answer.

Egyptians are generally not forgiving toward any manner of crime, with the exception of sexual harassment. In these cases, they consider the perpetrator "a misguided kid." Regarding the outcome, they say "it turned out alright in the end," and regarding prosecution they say "it's not worth it."

Egyptians' tolerance for sexual harassment does not stem from generic kind-heartedness, but rather from their broader views of women. We say that women comprise half of society; they are our sisters, daughters, wives and all the other cliché formulations that we repeat night and day. But the truth is we rarely show real respect for women. The people who called on the young woman to forgive the man harassing her didn't really think harassment was a crime. In their minds, all the youth did was grab a woman's body. They didn't think of the woman as a person whose feelings had been insulted and whose dignity had been violated when she was harassed. She was just a body covered in cloth that was rubbed once or twice, and that's the end of it. As long as the girl kept her virginity intact — for her eventual husband will see to it that no one uses her sexually before he does — she'll be fine.

Sexual harassment is the practical manifestation of our contempt for women. We no longer respect women in Egypt. I say "no longer" because women in Egypt had for decades experienced a culture of true respect. Egyptian women were pioneers in education, entering the work force, and public service. That is, until Wahhabi interpretations of Islam (supported by oil wealth) began to penetrate Egypt. In the Wahhabi view, women's role is confined to her bodily functions, and whole generations of Egyptians were raised to think that women are nothing but an instrument of pleasure that must be covered and hidden away from men so that they do not fall victim to her enticements. And today we see Wahhabi-Salafist sheikhs refusing to see any minimum age of consent for marrying a woman in the Egyptian constitution because they believe that it is a man's right to marry a woman even if she is a child of ten, “so long as she can physically bear copulation,” as one of their sheikhs put it. These men do not believe that women require any mental or emotional maturity beyond that possessed by a sexually-mature child. A woman to them is nothing but a pleasure machine that a man has the right to use as long as they will not be damaged or rendered inoperable.

I ask our male readers: when we see a woman for the first time, what draws our attention more? Her wits and her intelligence…or her legs and chest? We all know the answer. Women have been divested of their humanity and this is the basic impetus for the spread of sexual harassment throughout Egypt. During the holidays groups of young men appear, roaming the streets like wandering animals seeking to harass any woman they chance to come upon. A study was recently conducted by the Egyptian Center for Women's Rights in 2008, covering some 1,010 women, both foreigners and native Egyptians. According to the results it appears that 98% of foreign women and 83% of Egyptian women were subjected to some form of sexual harassment. This barbaric phenomenon is basically foreign to Egyptian society, even as some generally attempt to explain it away unconvincingly.

They say, for example, that harassment is a result of women donning provocative clothing. This bizarre logic holds the victim at fault while exonerating the offender for committing the offense. If a woman wears clothes that reveal, say, her arms, this simply cannot be considered a justification for assaulting her or depriving her of the right to being treated with respect. The difference between humans and animals is that humans are capable of controlling their desires; justifying harassment on the grounds of provocative clothing presents us with logic that could be used to justify all crimes. Why, for example, should we blame thieves for pilfering the money of others? If the thief is poor, surely he cannot resist the temptation of wealth. By the same token, why hold accountable a man who steals a fancy car? He surely longs for such a car, but lacks the means to buy it; when he sees it in front of him, how can he resist his urge to steal it?

Whatever clothes a woman wears, harassing her is simply a base, barbaric crime. The strange thing is that most women in Egypt are Muslims and veiled, so one cannot even begin to speak about 'provocative clothing'. Indeed, women's dress simply has no bearing on the spread of sexual harassment. Anyone who cares to argue otherwise must consider the following:

For several decades, and up until the 1970s, Egyptian women were predominately unveiled. They wore modern clothes that left portions of their bodies uncovered, went to the beach and swam in the sea wearing swimsuits that showed off their legs. And despite all this, there was never any harassment. Why then are women wearing veils that cover the hair, or even the face, being subjected to sexual harassment when the women of the 1970s who wore dresses and mini-skirts were not? The answer is that we used look upon women with a measure of respect, seeing them as people and not mere bodies.

We used to view women as human beings who simply happened to be females, just as men are human beings who simply happen to be males. One cannot respect women or see them as beings with discerning minds and sensitive hearts, and then sexually harass them. Whoever harasses women does so because he considers them no more than a body owned by a husband or father. When someone who thinks in this way can't buy themselves 'a body' via marriage contract in order to gratify their desires, and is merely looking for opportunities to grope other women and then flee from punishment, of course he won't hesitate to harass them.

Another widespread interpretation of harassment is that it stems from the mixing of men and women. This view is also incorrect. Egyptian society knew gender integration for many long years without being encumbered by sexual harassment. Closed societies that forbid women and men from interacting have a higher rate of sexual harassment than gender-mixed societies. When society forbids men from seeing women or interacting with them in school, at mosque or at work, men then become ignorant of the proper way to interact with women. They become unaccustomed to seeing a woman as a colleague deserving of respect; instead she becomes transformed in his eyes into an instrument of pleasure inaccessible to him. From here, most often, he turns to harassment to snatch what pleasure he can at the first opportunity.

Reviewing statistics provided by the international news agency Reuters, one finds that Saudi Arabia is ranked third highest among 24 states for the frequency of sexual harassment in the workplace. The study shows that, of the 12,000 women interviewed from two dozen countries, roughly 16% of women working in Saudi Arabia were subjected to sexual harassment by their supervisors at work. The study further shows that the rate of sexual harassment in Saudi Arabia (16%) is far higher than in the US (a rate of 8%), which in turn is higher than Spain (6%), Germany (5%) and Britain (4%), while France and Sweden come in at the bottom of the list, tied at a mere 3%.

Through such figures we can see how more open societies experience a far lower degree of sexual harassment than do closed ones.

At this point, Islamists will naturally rise up and indignantly ask: How can Western states, that permit sexual relations outside of marriage, suffer from a lower rate of harassment than Islamic societies where people are naturally religious? The answer is that tolerating sexual relations outside of marriage does not in any way license harassment or any other sexual crime. Western society allows every person, whether male or female, married or unmarried, the right to engage in sexual relations. They view sex as a private matter, something for which people should not be judged or held accountable. There, society judges an individual based on his actions and his dealings with others, and leaves his private life to him alone.

As for the notion that we in Egypt are a religious people by our very nature, this too should be reconsidered. How can we claim to be a religious people in Egypt when 83% of our women are subject to sexual harassment? More than any other people, we are eager to preserve the outward appearance of religiosity, yet in our actions we are the least in accord with religious principles. Before the spread of the Wahhabi influence, Egyptians were less interested in the outward forms of religion and more interested in acting in accordance with religious principles. Now, however, we have given priority to the religion of forms and procedures while abandoning the substance of faith. Many Egyptians are scrupulous about saying their prayers, fasting or making pilgrimage to Mecca, but are nevertheless untrustworthy in their financial dealings, lie to their superiors at work, fail to speak up for what is right and do whatever serves their personal interests, regardless of how morally questionable it may be.

Sexual harassment is but one of the symptoms of a cultural disease that has stricken Egyptian society: holding women in contempt. It is the disease of viewing a woman as a woman first, before anything else. It is the disease of reducing a woman to her body and taking no interest in her feelings, her mind or her capacity as a human being. It is the disease of viewing a woman as a means of pleasuring men, whether acquired through a marriage contract or illicitly enjoyed by groping in crowded places.

The amazing thing is that the Egyptian revolution has returned us to the civilized view of women. Millions of women participated in the revolution; for over three weeks, Tahrir Square and the other revolutionary squares did not witnesses a single instance of sexual harassment. It is as if Egypt, when it rose up in revolt automatically regained all the attributes of civilizations. We cannot prevent sexual harassment unless we recover our respect for women and unless we learn to see women as human beings equal to men in capabilities, rights, feelings and in dignity. Only then will we no longer stalk women for their bodies, or stare at her legs. Only then will we discover that which is vastly more important: that she is a human being.

Democracy is the solution.

Sexual Harassment in Egypt: Women Are People, Too - Al-Monitor: the Pulse of the Middle East
 
Off with their heads!

A video of Egyptian self-proclaimed cleric Sheikh Saad Arafat went viral on Monday, showing one of his religious “lessons” on Al-Rahma channel, a self-described Islamic channel. In the video he deals with sexual harassment as follows, “even if you [the woman] are face-veiled, you are the reason for harassment for going out of your house for no reason and letting your eyes wonder left and right. Thus God let this wolf on you!”

Before even touching on his senile logic, what I do not get is how he was able to put the word “God” and “wolf” in the same sentence! In basic religion class when we were six years old, we were taught that vile actions by humans are inspired by the devil not God! God is good, kind, propels us to be better!! So the “sheikh” is not even adhering to the basic religious knowledge of a pre-teen.

Arafat goes on to explain that a woman sometimes looks at a man, he looks back as if “she is calling him ‘I am here, don’t you see me?’” Apparently the basic function of vision has become a new incitement to sexual harassment.

This animalistic trend – with apologies to animals – propagated by Wahabi Sheikhs, has been on the rise lately in Egypt, with the rise of far-right Islamist parties and the spread of their well-funded channels. They are usually met with derision from both men and women, provoking jokes and ridicule. Yet they present an alarming trend of religious ignorance and gender intolerance. If one single person is swayed by this kind of thinking, then we are losing the war against extremist mentality.

There is well-known historical tale Muslims like to brag about that this pseudo-sheikh did not hear of. In 838 CE, a Muslim woman was apparently shopping at a market filled with Romans in Amorium. Some claim that a Roman man tried to harass the woman by grabbing her traditional dress, while others claim that he was a seller who tried to stiff her.

Either way, she answered back and he slapped her. The gist of it is that when she was taken to jail, she screamed “O’ Mo’tasm!” (Al-Mo’tasm was the Muslim Caliph at the time). He heard the tale from a man, prepared an army and invaded the city! For a woman! According to tales, what mattered for him, as a caretaker ie a caliph, is that he responded to the plea of the woman. And regardless of Arab exaggeration, which we are prone to, the important thing is that he did not ask her why she went there, how she was dressed, why she dealt with a man or why she had an argument with him.

This story, passed down by generations of Muslims, shows the difference in mentality of Muslim sheikhs or those who are supposed to have wisdom when it comes to dealing with women. Gender interaction in Egypt has taken a good and sound beating in the last 30 years. Women are regarded as pleasure vessels, enticing creatures that should be huddled in black and kept safe at home. Their minds are secondary to their bodies, or rather their ability to procreate. Sexual harassment has become epidemic in Egypt, written about in papers and documented on film.

Some deranged sheikhs, and a couple of Coptic priests, claim that it is the way women dress. In the last 15 years the veil and niqab has become so widespread that non-veiled women have become a rarity on the streets. My mother’s generation used to wear short skirts and flares in the cities of Upper Egypt. Photos of seminars and concerts in the 1960s show women wearing short dresses and sleeveless blouses in Qena and Menya, the most conservative governorates nowadays. Yet a couple of days ago, armed fights ensued after a guy harassed a girl in Beni Sweif, a conservative governorate, and police had to intervene.

The so-called sheikhs who blame women do not follow a clear instruction for people in a Hadith to “lower their gazes” which means not to leer, much less touch. The order not to leer was given to both men and women and does not depend on how women dress.

Egypt’s reputation for sexual harassment is an insult to men before women. It is degrading that on travel forums women travelling to Egypt are warned of this social ill, given instructions on how to dress and how to act. Egyptian women suffer the most from this and it has resulted in what girls call “walking with the wooden face” on the streets; a cold mask of one’s face that tells any guy on the street “I am not kidding, I will beat you if you come near me!” It is both nerve-wrecking and agitating to expect a fight while walking. So far, I have personally punched a guy, elbowed one and ran after three. A personal best, if I may say so.

The light at the end of the tunnel comes from young Egyptians. Angry with what’s happening and with the encouragement of several women’s NGOs and movements, young women are starting to talk about harassment, breaking the social taboo that calls upon the girls to remain silent as it is not “appropriate” to talk about such things. Encouraged by each other’s tales, women have started to fight back, whether physically on the streets or through legal complaints that can put a harasser in jail for to up to five years.

Young men, angry with the reputation attributed to them, have started an awareness campaign encouraging men to “act like men” and stop harassers on the streets. Others took a more physical approach, apprehending harassers and spraying their shirts with the word “harasser.” Of course this leads to more fighting, but the message was still delivered.

In Egypt, we still have a long way to go when it comes to societal interaction. The biggest problem is that some girls currently equate harassment with compliments in less affluent areas. A major shift in society has happened in the last 30 years, due primarily to the lack of education and culture that has tainted everything in the country.

In fighting all these factors, religion is used as a weapon in the hands of the ignorant. Moderate sheikhs are not given enough media time. The state is not spreading moderate teachings and the same applies for mosques across Egypt. They belong to the government and are not used to fight this extremist method of thinking.

As for the sheikhs spreading hate and intolerance, they remind me of the character of the Queen of hearts in Tim Burton’s Alice in Wonderland, the sick ugly queen who screams “off with their heads” at anyone who opposes her. Yet they should be careful of using religion as a weapon lest the “off with their heads” remarks turn on them.

Off with their heads! - Daily News Egypt
 
What are the girls' dads doing man?

I have mellowed a little in my 30s, but by God I am capable of killing a guy who hurts my girls.

Probably he is too busy harrasing other girls?
We are talking about a society and its tolerance to such things( And north India specifically delhi/haryana/punjab is probably as bad or worse)
 
only solution world over for this problem is...............Ak-47 for the girls.
 
only solution world over for this problem is...............Ak-47 for the girls.
And they should seriously change the ghastly color of AK, where is the pink version (with option of changing color to match dress)
 

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