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Seoul seeks military deal with Beijing
05-21-2012 17:36

By Chung Min-uck

Seoul is seeking a military agreement with its largest trade partner China, according to officials, in an apparent bid to ease a possible backlash after halting a similar move towards an accord with Japan.

The move came just days after Seoul suspended signing of military pacts with Tokyo.

“We are pursuing a similar mutual logistical agreement with China too,” said Kim Min-seok, a spokesman for the Defense Ministry, Monday.

According to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Seoul has also been in low key talks for a proposed pact with Beijing for an exchange of military intelligence.

Seoul is discussing signing a similar agreement with Tokyo as well.

“Of late, we introduced to the Chinese officials our ongoing General Security of Military Information Act (GSOMIA) with Japan,” said a foreign ministry official on condition of anonymity. “We previously held talks several times with the Chinese counterparts on pursuing the deal.”

The official declined to give specifics on the behind-the-scene talks.

A senior foreign ministry official, during a recent visit to Beijing, briefed about Seoul’s ongoing military agreement talks with Japan and made an unofficial proposal of signing one with China.

Observers say South Korea’s move aims to pre-empt Beijing’s resistance to possible trilateral military cooperation involving Seoul, Washington and Tokyo.

China interprets the bilateral military agreement between Seoul and Japan as the first step toward a stronger “southern alliance” led by the United States.

Against the backdrop, experts are concerned about rising tensions on the Korean peninsula as the three-way cooperation could prompt Pyongyang, Beijing and Moscow to step up their own “northern alliance.”

The Ministry of Defense, however, denied of such speculations.

“It is wrong to say the military agreement with Japan will result in a cold-war-like confrontation between the two sides,” said Kim. “We will seek bilateral military agreements (with Japan) in a careful manner.”

Defense Minister Kim Kwan-jin Thursday delayed his visit to Tokyo, which had been scheduled to take place at the end of the month, due to public backlash over the signing of the deals.

One of the pacts is GSOMIA, which allows the two nations to share information on North Korea’s nuclear and missile programs. The other is the Acquisition and Cross-Servicing Agreement (ACSA), also known as the Mutual Logistic Support Agreement, which calls for exchanging most common types of support, such as food, fuel, transportation, ammunition and equipment, excluding weapons.

South Koreans are especially sensitive on the latter as it could give Japan the capacity to intervene on the peninsula.

The pacts, if signed, would be the first military agreement since Japan’s colonial rule over Korea which ended in 1945.

Meanwhile, the Obama administration has lately shown great interest in the Asian pacific region describing it as the future of the U.S. which includes military build-up and the strengthening of alliances throughout the area, an apparent move to undercut Chinese influence in the region.

*ttp://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2012/05/116_111416.html



China and Japan Abandon U.S. Dollar as a Means of Trade
Currencies / US Dollar Jun 01, 2012 - 01:01 PM

By: Julian_DW_Phillips

Currencies

Best Financial Markets Analysis ArticleIn the next month China and Japan (China's main trading partner) will no longer use the U.S. dollar as the only currency in trade with each other. They will use the Yuan and the Yen directly with each other. This will see the dollar removed from a large chunk of the world's trade -in itself, not a very large percentage, but a significant one. It's the start of a trend that is set to grow. We've no doubt that China is tailoring its trade with all its trading partners to use the dollar only so far as it is required to deal with the U.S. and other dollar-dependent nations. Oil from Russia utilizes the Yuan and Rouble, and Australia has arranged a similar deal.

*ttp://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article34947.html

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We do not sign any military deals with puppets of Uncle Sam. :coffee:
When China drives the US outside east Asia,
these puppets will have a new master(who had ever ruled them for thousand yeas),
By then we will sign a master to puppet military cooperation deal with them。
 
Sshhh.... Don't let our residential troll see this thread.
 
Hopefully "Korean" won't see this, it will break his heart.

Jokes aside, I think Korean, Japan and China/Taiwan and Vietnam should form a common market and introduce a new common currency, even with hostility among them. Differences are always there, it doesn't have to be solved before these countries look into their common interest. All these countries have very similar economic models and a common stable currency like Euro will be good. In addition, these countries should joint research on renewable energies so they are not too dependant on foreign oil.
 
Hopefully "Korean" won't see this, it will break his heart.

Jokes aside, I think Korean, Japan and China/Taiwan and Vietnam should form a common market and introduce a new common currency, even with hostility among them. Differences are always there, it doesn't have to be solved before these countries look into their common interest. All these countries have very similar economic models and a common stable currency like Euro will be good. In addition, these countries should joint research on renewable energies so they are not too dependant on foreign oil.
Uncle Sam is there, so it is still daydream in this decade.
 
Hopefully "Korean" won't see this, it will break his heart.

Jokes aside, I think Korean, Japan and China/Taiwan and Vietnam should form a common market and introduce a new common currency, even with hostility among them. Differences are always there, it doesn't have to be solved before these countries look into their common interest. All these countries have very similar economic models and a common stable currency like Euro will be good. In addition, these countries should joint research on renewable energies so they are not too dependant on foreign oil.

Absolutely not, look at the sh!t situation in Europe now with their single currency. Countries like Norway, Sweden, Switzerland and Denmark are doing well compared to the Euro countries. The direct trading between Yuan and Yen actually benefits both countries without the $
 
Hopefully "Korean" won't see this, it will break his heart.

Jokes aside, I think Korean, Japan and China/Taiwan and Vietnam should form a common market and introduce a new common currency, even with hostility among them. Differences are always there, it doesn't have to be solved before these countries look into their common interest. All these countries have very similar economic models and a common stable currency like Euro will be good. In addition, these countries should joint research on renewable energies so they are not too dependant on foreign oil.
No, we have No deal with you, if you're strong, then let's fight and we will destroy all of your ships in Malacca, if dare not, then why do we need you ??
 
We do not sign any military deals with puppets of Uncle Sam. :coffee:
When China drives the US outside east Asia,
these puppets will have a new master(who had ever ruled them for thousand yeas),
By then we will sign a master to puppet military cooperation deal with them。

Wow there are people still cut and paste replies from 毛主席语录

Perhaps if people stop and think for a moment, this is a good thing for South Korea and China. The new leadership in the north is no more rational than the last, closer cooperation could be of benefit to both if Kim continues to push for war.
 
Wow there are people still cut and paste replies from 毛主席语录

Perhaps if people stop and think for a moment, this is a good thing for South Korea and China. The new leadership in the north is no more rational than the last, closer cooperation could be of benefit to both if Kim continues to push for war.

Which Kim? They all Kims.
 
The Koreans are wise to the fact that the Americans are using them as fodder in a high stakes geopolitical game.

Think about it, if conflict breaks out on the Korean Peninsula, who suffers?

US? They're 15 thousand miles away.

China? You can't beat China on land.


It will be Korea and Koreans who suffer. Of course America can take a tough stance, they have almost nothing at stake! Korea has Seoul (within shelling range of the border) and the entire economy of Korea at stake.

Koreans know this too, that's why they seek to peacefully settle the issue of North Korea with China despite all the rhetoric. China is not fond of the North Korean regime that does not take care of its own people anyway. China wants a stable and economically vibrant North Korea who's a reliable partner. This can only be accomplished by dealing and negotiating with the South Koreans.

For South Korea, the best answer is really to not lean too much toward America and China, but to play one off the other. Leaning too much towards one side, especially America, is just inviting war to your doorsteps.

Ironically, I think the Americans will not be happy to see the North Korean issue solved with Chinese help. The US will be putting in obstacles in the way of Korean re-unification if Chinese help is too forthcoming.
 
Hopefully "Korean" won't see this, it will break his heart.

Jokes aside, I think Korean, Japan and China/Taiwan and Vietnam should form a common market and introduce a new common currency, even with hostility among them. Differences are always there, it doesn't have to be solved before these countries look into their common interest. All these countries have very similar economic models and a common stable currency like Euro will be good. In addition, these countries should joint research on renewable energies so they are not too dependant on foreign oil.
I totally agree, strong regional cooperation and integration is absolutely necessary to create stability and prosperity. All regions of the world should do the same, including the Middle East and South America.
 

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