Sensitive Data of Indian Navy’s Scorpene Class Submarines Leaked

[Robinhood Pandey]

@PARIKRAMA

I feel @ashok321 is heading @kahonapyarhai way. Only posting, dont you think that?

@ashok321 aka @mehboobkz aka @Anees is famous for spamming threads

 

[Nilgiri]

@PARIKRAMA

I feel @ashok321 is heading @kahonapyarhai way. Only posting, dont you think that?

Heading? He is at that stage a long time back.

 

[Hellfire]

@ashok321 aka @mehboobkz aka @Anees is famous for spamming threads

The Int brief by our very own CID chief. You tag well

Thanks

 

[Nilgiri]

The Int brief by our very own CID chief. You tag well

Thanks

Pandey sure knows the deep web of PDF personas hehe...better than anyone else I think....maybe @Roybot gives him run for money.

 

[Aero]

If the incumbent GoI is smart they would cancel the program and go for a new platform.

Cancelling now will be a bad idea.
One is in Sea Trial (INS Kalvari) & other is ready for launch (INS Khanderi), Two are under construction (S52 & S53) that make Four out of Six. If we cancel now maintaining 2 submarine that are ready will be less economical . Our own shipyards will lose business . A lot of factors here if GoI cancels this deal.

Conventional submarines of India be it Kilo or 209 are over 3 Decades old (Not like this), so our Navy needs New Subs if cancelled new selection will take time then Red Tapism of India you Know we are talking about 10-15 more years.
We cannot actually say anything until we see all Docs ourselves but as leak happened in 2011 it is unlikely a lot of things for Indian variant are compromised as they were being manufactured at that time so How come manuals are there before Sub is done building?
It may there due to being similar to other scorpene class subs malaysia ,chile navy operate or may be forged to get Media Attention?

 

[Shankranthi]

Continuing from earlier post quoted above

Source based information - part 2
Some More information from a very senior Indian Navy official who is briefing IN Chief on continuous basis based on hourly analysis of the data leaked..

1. Classification of information leaked is non catastrophic.
2. Most important things which are not compromised includes Radiated Noise Pattern or Acoustic Signature
3. The acoustic signature is recorded and added to own library only after
   • extensive sea trials
   • after performing successfully radiated noise spectrum analysis under different standard conditions
4. Minor changes which occurs in every operation to operation includes Sonar Frequency and ELF LF Communication frequency both are not compromised.
5. He has confirmed no tactical advantage is lost on any encounter on sea condition to IN chief and the same is briefed to DM MP

@Vergennes at @MilSpec @Abingdonboy @Spectre @anant_s @Nilgiri @anant_s @hellfire @Taygibay @Picdelamirand-oil @randomradio @Shankranthi @others

tagging you to sven @Olaf One-Brow - you can give better insights on this..

What else do you expect the MoD or Naval chief to say ?

That 3.6 billion $ is down the drain ? or that "All is Well" ?

Pretty much every "public" noise from the IN and MoD will attempt to down play this and restore public confidence.

One has to be pretty Naive to believe that the GoI will EVER reveal to the public about how damaging this whole leak is. Their job is to Lie to the public and in private take serious steps to recover from the damage.

So let the chowkidar shout "All is Well" and let the naive public go back to their slumber.

just replace Amir Khan with MoD

 

[NKVD]

What else do you expect the MoD or Naval chief to say ?

That 3.6 billion $ is down the drain ? or that "All is Well" ?

Pretty much every "public" noise from the IN and MoD will attempt to down play this and restore public confidence.

One has to be pretty Naive to believe that the GoI will EVER reveal to the public about damaging this whole leak is. Their job is toe Lie to the public and in private take serious steps to recover from the damage.

So let the chowkidar shout "All is Well" and let the naive public go back to their slumber.

just replace Amir Khan with MoD

What we expect from chump like who is utter waste in life

Any Navy official word is more than worth than waste like you
Do something useful in life except
Criticisms

 

[PARIKRAMA]

 

[Shankranthi]

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isn't it strange that they are NOW doing a "detailed assessment" AFTER publicly declaring that nothing important has been revealed ?

 

[Indrajit]

What else do you expect the MoD or Naval chief to say ?

That 3.6 billion $ is down the drain ? or that "All is Well" ?

Pretty much every "public" noise from the IN and MoD will attempt to down play this and restore public confidence.

One has to be pretty Naive to believe that the GoI will EVER reveal to the public about how damaging this whole leak is. Their job is to Lie to the public and in private take serious steps to recover from the damage.

That's pretty much what I have been saying....spin is what we can expect now & that indeed is what should be expected if GoI has any sense. Not many takers for that line here........

My point was the same as yours, that we are not going to really know the extent of the damage...because it will never be made public and that we really should assume the worst.

 

[Shankranthi]

That's pretty much what I have been saying....spin is what we can expect now & that indeed is what should be expected if GoI has any sense. Not many takers for that line here........

My point was the same as yours, that we are not going to really know the extent of the damage...because it will never be made public and that we really should assume the worst.

That should have been obvious to anyone with an iota of common sense. But like they say, common sense is not so common.

But there is no need to 'assume' anything. MoD needs to do their job and investigate this. IN needs to take steps to mitigate the risks revealed by this leak.

GoI needs to demand Significant Compensation from DCNS / France depending on where the Liability lies.

 

[NKVD]

That's pretty much what I have been saying....spin is what we can expect now & that indeed is what should be expected if GoI has any sense. Not many takers for that line here........

My point was the same as yours, that we are not going to really know the extent of the damage...because it will never be made public and that we really should assume the worst.

Army should never declare any thing to Public

Specially Indian one which very are still very amateurs and illiterate to analyse such complex matter of national security

Example is guy above

 

[NKVD]

There ...there .....kid. Don't worry ........ "All is well"

Here you go,

Ohh chump

Go do dharna at naval station MDL

Not so bitch crying on PDF
Only waste few minutes of your life

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Beyond the orgasms which folks seems to get , if only they could really go after the data and read everything

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitiv...submarines-leaked.445677/page-15#post-8608861

If only people could understand how in India parliament is answered not without a clear report from Indian Navy saying the same and such a statement is recorded ..

Enjoy the whole spin and keep saying we should fear and also there is much more.. may be ask them also how a Chile scorpene data is so threatening.. anyways that point will be ignored bcz that does not follow the iteration and concern raised by folks.. right is nt it?

 

[Shankranthi]

Its unlikely any Indian gets an orgasm seeing our military secrete out in the open. its funny that one should think so and have so little faith in the Indian public.

That said, relevant details will be provided to the standing committee on defence and not on the floor of the parliament.

What's surprising is to see is a whole bunch of Indians trying to support DCNS and trying to downplay this horrendous leak. Is anybody under the impression that DCNS is doing charity ?