Sensitive Data of Indian Navy’s Scorpene Class Submarines Leaked

[GuardianRED]

Ah you must watch it. Awesome.

Now I think I better stop trolling, @PARIKRAMA will get annoyed. But problem with his threads is, that his research is so thorough and meticulous, that one can simply let him keep posting and get a complete picture. No effort needed, he is absolutely thorough. I have stopped quoting him, except to show am tracking his post. Awesome!

@GuardianRED Operation Petticoat is fun, but a bit different types set in WW-II. Watch it.

Yes Just checked , it on youtube - Cary Grant and Tony curtis ! Excellent!

 

[PARIKRAMA]

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
We are going by assumption of the worst case scenario: Manohar Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
Don't think its big worry, will be able to put things in right directions: Defence Minister Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

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[Roybot]

"The documents that have been posted on the website by an Australian news agency have been examined and do not pose any security compromise as the vital parameters have been blacked out," a government statement on Thursday said.

What an idiotic thing to say! Just because the newspaper has blacked out the "vital parameters" doesn't mean its not out there! These documents must have exchanged hundreds oh hands already before it got to the newspaper.

@PARIKRAMA I hope they give this statement just to fool the media and general public, and are taking this issue more seriously than that.

 

[GuardianRED]

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
We are going by assumption of the worst case scenario: Manohar Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
Don't think its big worry, will be able to put things in right directions: Defence Minister Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

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Got this from NDTV app on my ipad

NDTV News Flash

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar On Scorpene Submarine Leak : Waiting for report, many stop using products from France

IDIOTS!!!

 

[PARIKRAMA]

@anant_s @nair @Vergennes @Abingdonboy @hellfire @Nilgiri @Spectre @R!CK @GuardianRED @Roybot @BON PLAN https://defence.pk/members/bregs.148509/ @Ankit Kumar 002

I said here proprietary modifications and about acoustic signature and manuals being old and new updated ones are used now..

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitiv...submarines-leaked.445677/page-29#post-8616171

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitiv...submarines-leaked.445677/page-15#post-8608841

https://defence.pk/threads/sensitiv...submarines-leaked.445677/page-15#post-8608996

Everything was revealed here.. the sustained campaign will also die down... Good finally DM MP clarified on these points bcz now its confirmed by him what i said here based on sources

 

[nair]

Everything was revealed here.. the sustained campaign will also die down... Good finally DM MP clarified on these points bcz now its confirmed by him what i said here based on sources

Hope they have gone thru the entire 22000 pages......

@PARIKRAMA I do not think one can say "Sustained campaign" at least in this case........ Any other country, such leaks would have resulted the same......... Yes we have huge number of news channels who compete with each other for their bit of extra.......

 

[anant_s]

Everything was revealed here.. the sustained campaign will also die down... Good finally DM MP clarified on these points bcz now its confirmed by him what i said here based on sources

Yes its important that DM takes charge of situation. News channels are blabbering all sorts of BS as if your neighbor has run away with your car keys, papers and driving license (& modified it his picture and name).
To me (whatever documents i've read), the leak seems more like that of a design manual.
More important part of all this episode is that someone had access to that kind of data and now leaked it. I don't think strategically there is a huge damage, but we must be more vigilant now that next time we may not be as lucky.

 

[nair]

More important part of all this episode is that someone had access to that kind of data and now leaked it. I don't think strategically there is a huge damage, but we must be more vigilant now that next time we may not be as lucky.

The bigger question is, is there more to be leaked?????

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Hope they have gone thru the entire 22000 pages......

No the 22000 claim is not contested nor completely checked by DM MP or IN. In fact India has not officially asked The Australian newspaper about it.

Reason being the proprietary part of the work by India comes under the "top secret" bracket and is not shared with everyone including DCNS folks above a particular grade and strategic involvement people. So tracing a internal audit of those dox access is much easier to cross check bcz as far as i know as per source the people involved in this work has not left either DCNS nor the from Indian side folks involved in this project.

So it was much easier to rule that part out...

@PARIKRAMA I do not think one can say "Sustained campaign" at least in this case........ Any other country, such leaks would have resulted the same......... Yes we have huge number of news channels who compete with each other for their bit of extra......

You are correct but there are folks who made in news media comments about scorpenes being dud, we should scrap scorpene project to even going for Russian sub right now itself .. The way whole thing was sounded made it clear that instead of understanding whats going on, the gullible masses were taken on a ride to paint a picture against what is the reality..

You know folks said that our sailors inside submarines wont have confidence to safely carry out mission knowing everything is compromised .. Its as if we are playing with their lives and sending them to suicide missions.

You should check Shiv Aroor comments or even NDTV's Vishu Som's comments about everything leaked and compromised..

Shiv's famous cartoon is

to some extent initially Manu Pubby also joined and finally backed off.. same like Jugal R Purohit..


Thats why i said sustained campaign.. none of them even understand whats going on. but in the name of Breaking news and TRP , they created a mood where the whole country folks thought its a gone case really

 

[nair]

You are correct but there are folks who made in news media comments about scorpenes being dud, we should scrap scorpene project to even going for Russian sub right now itself .. The way whole thing was sounded made it clear that instead of understanding whats going on, the gullible masses were taken on a ride to paint a picture against what is the reality..

I agree, That is how our media and the so called "Experts" behave....... Most of them wont even have a clue about the news, even if they have, the are playing their part of the TRP agenda.......I have seen these experts taking different positions and different attitude towards similar issues in different time, and i think these guys are actors of a drama or serial which is shown to us in the form of a talk show/debate........

 

[R!CK]

No the 22000 claim is not contested nor completely checked by DM MP or IN. In fact India has not officially asked The Australian newspaper about it.

Reason being the proprietary part of the work by India comes under the "top secret" bracket and is not shared with everyone including DCNS folks above a particular grade and strategic involvement people. So tracing a internal audit of those dox access is much easier to cross check bcz as far as i know as per source the people involved in this work has not left either DCNS nor the from Indian side folks involved in this project.

So it was much easier to rule that part out...


You are correct but there are folks who made in news media comments about scorpenes being dud, we should scrap scorpene project to even going for Russian sub right now itself .. The way whole thing was sounded made it clear that instead of understanding whats going on, the gullible masses were taken on a ride to paint a picture against what is the reality..

You know folks said that our sailors inside submarines wont have confidence to safely carry out mission knowing everything is compromised .. Its as if we are playing with their lives and sending them to suicide missions.

You should check Shiv Aroor comments or even NDTV's Vishu Som's comments about everything leaked and compromised..
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Shiv's famous cartoon is

to some extent initially Manu Pubby also joined and finally backed off.. same like Jugal R Purohit..


Thats why i said sustained campaign.. none of them even understand whats going on. but in the name of Breaking news and TRP , they created a mood where the whole country folks thought its a gone case really

Typical Indian media at its best. Everything but the truth...lol

Good Day

 

[PARIKRAMA]

Got this from NDTV app on my ipad

NDTV News Flash

Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar On Scorpene Submarine Leak : Waiting for report, many stop using products from France

IDIOTS!!!

here is the thing.. NDTV... gone mad fully

read here.. bolded and made bigger in size part
Scorpene submarine documents leak not a big worry: Parrikar
Aug 26, 2016, 05.57 PM IST

NEW DELHI: Defence minister Manohar Parrikar on Friday played down the Scorpene leak saying its a "not big worry", but there are few pockets of concerns because the ministry is assuming the worst case scenario.

The defence minister said that the leaked documents put on the web of 'The Australian' newspaper does not include any of the weaponry systems of the Scorpene as been reported in the media.

Parrikar said that the navy has assured him that most of the leaked documents are not of concern.

The minister also said that Scorpene submarine has not even fully completed the sea trials, which is important to understand how it will work under water.

The Indian Navy has taken up Scorpene document leak matter with French Directorate General of Armament.

"We are waiting for the report. Basically, what is on the website is not of big concern. We are assuming, on our own, that this has leaked and we are taking all precautions", he said.

"What I am given to understand that there are few pockets of concern assuming that what is claimed to have been leaked has leaked actually.

"We are going by assumption of the worst case scenario. I think there is not big worry because we will be able out put things in right perspective", Parrikar added.

Asked by a journalist whether the Rafale deal would be affected because of the leak, the minister shot back questioning whether one can stop using French products just because a leak has happened in another company.

"You stop using all products from France? Obviously, the companies are different, the type of equipment is different and an incident should be punished with whatever the contractual punishment is there. It is not intentionally leaked," Parrikar said.

He said the punishment should be based on the conditions in the contract.

More than 22,000 pages of top secret data on the capabilities of six highly advanced submarines being built for the Indian Navy in Mumbai in collaboration with a French company have been leaked, raising alarm bells today in the security establishment.
The combat capability of the Scorpene submarines being built at Mazagon dock at a cost of USD 3.5 billion by French shipbuilder DCNS, went public when an Australian newspaper, "The Australian", put the details on the website.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...a-big-worry-Parrikar/articleshow/53874704.cms

 

[Ind4Ever]

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
We are going by assumption of the worst case scenario: Manohar Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

ANIVerified account ‏@ANI_news 1h1 hour agoNew Delhi, India
Don't think its big worry, will be able to put things in right directions: Defence Minister Parrikar #ScorpeneLeak

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What the heck is weapons system? We don't even have one with Scorpene.

Indian must ask French government to rectify with new improved features into this submarine or else any future deals with French must stop. This is ridiculous.

 

[[Bregs]]

wow Mr parrikear you dont even have the weapon system chosen as yet then how can there systems be leaked, torpedoes firm has been blacklisted. so cover up seems to have started ?

 

[Indrajit]

Yup.....no worries whatsoever...so much so that MoD must now make it a practice to ask all such foreign companies to put out this type of information in the public. After all, there is nothing to it, is there....?

wow Mr parrikear you dont even have the weapon system chosen as yet then how can there systems be leaked, torpedoes firm has been blacklisted. so cover up seems to have started ?

Don't be too hard on him, what else can he realistically say...?