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Sensitive Data of Indian Navy’s Scorpene Class Submarines Leaked

If we dont take any action also its a bigger issue.. Unless of course we stuck some bargain and get something else from DCNS for free in lieu of continuing the contract of 6 scorpenes..

This will turn out to be a corporate arm twisting scenario.. DM MP will not let such a chance go.. Either there will be some serious action or some additional things shared by France /DCNS to all aggrieved parties - India and Australia both to salvage their respective deal /potential contract and do damage control



We have a very Nationalist Govt, Modi n Parrikar are not the kind that will keep quiet. Shit has hit the fan, expect repercussions. We'll know in a couple of days.
Either way, this drama not going to end well, IMO.
 
Given the size of Indian defence market and planned procurements, it really is naive to think large defence corporations are going to sit idle especially the ones who could not win large deals.
Although it is too early to comment if the story of leak has any substance to it, but dirty corporate practices cannot be ruled out.
It was all visible when India was negotiating with Dassault and other bidders rejected in MMRCA started to mount a campaign against Rafale (most notable the one comparing Rafale with J-20).
Broadly if we consider Indo-French areas of co-operation in heavy engineering at this moment, i can list following:
Scorpene Subs
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Rafale
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PRIMA 2 locos
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EPR 2 Reactors
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The total economic value of these contracts (signed or under negotiations) runs in billions of dollars over a large time duration. France has won most of these deals in fair competition and unfortunately the world around us is not full of those who accept defeat graciously.
& here i think the use of crooked means to defame/ cause loss to either India or France, cannot be ruled out.
Hopefully both nations which have had a great history of friendship and warm relations, will consider (if true) all these unfortunate developments as minor blimps only.
 
Just watched NDTV

So far - IN has confirmed the source is outside India and that the data leaked is not current and not substantial
+ They put this same Question to Anthony of all people Damn!
 
As per reports DCNS has blamed India for the leak - Congress news briefing..

If true then no country would be willing sell their products to India going forward.

Following details have been leaked

4301 pages of combat management system
493 pages of Torpedo launch and stealth system
4457 Pages of Underwater sensors
4209 pages of above water sensors
6841 pages of communication system, Diving depth, range and endurance
Magnetic, Electromagnetic and infrared details
Frequencies at which information is gathered
Speed and periscope details
Noise specifications of the propeller
Radiated noise level at surface
Noise at various speeds


As per reports DCNS has blamed India for the leak - Congress news briefing..

If true then no country would be willing sell their products to India going forward.
 
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As per reports DCNS has blamed India for the leak - Congress news briefing..

If true then no country would be willing sell their products to India going forward.


Report also states that it was an ex-French naval officer who was serving as a contractor and copied this data.

I think these leaks are of same seriousness as Chinese espionage of F-35 program's subcontractor.
 
Scorpene submarine Leak - French firm DCNS kept us in the dark says MoD.

Notwithstanding the close ties between India and France, French firm DCNS which is helping India build constructing sixScorpene submarines in Mumbai, chose to not inform the Indian Navy (IN) or the Ministry of Defence (MoD) about the leak of nearly 22,400 sensitive documents pertaining to the submarine program and its secret features. Top sources in the Indian establishment have informed INDIA TODAY that they learnt the matter from the Australian press reports.

What makes this significant is that DCNS while replying to the Australian press tried to reassure, saying the leak which hit the Scorpene program would not recur in the Australian submarine contract it has recently secured. However, this information was not passed to the Indian side. It was reported by the 'The Australian', "The company also implied - but did not say directly - that the leak might have occurred at India's end, rather than from France. 'Uncontrolled technical data is not possible in the Australian Âarrangements,' the company said".

The report then quoted DCNS saying, "Multiple and independent controls exist within DCNS to prevent unauthorised access to data and all data movements are encrypted and recorded. In the case of India, where a DCNS design is built by a local company, DCNS is the provider and not the controller of technical data. In the case of Australia, and unlike India, DCNS is both the provider and in-country controller of technical data for the full chain of transmission and usage over the life of the submarines". It was also mentioned that the needle of suspicion, for the alleged theft, was on a former French naval officer who was a part of DCNS in 2011.

While it may not have been possible to avert the theft, but information shared earlier could have help react sooner and more effectively.

GROPING IN THE DARK

"Our biggest problem is that we just don't know how much we have lost. We are only taking baby steps in our effort to understand what has hit us," said a senior source.

When asked if it was incumbent on the DCNS to keep its Indian partner in the loop, Vice Admiral KN Sushil (Retd), a submariner said, "If they can reply to the Australian media they should well have informed us about this leak as well. Perhaps they may have thought that they would obliquely be admitting to the leak if they informed us".

The DCNS and Navantia of Spain are the technology providers who are overseeing India's Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL) build these six submarines for a total cost of $3.5 billion. Armaris is the main French contracting firm which overlooks the MDL's efforts.

PARRIKAR SEEKS REPORTS FROM NAVY CHIEF

While Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar termed the leaks as a result of 'hacking' and said he had sought a report from the navy chief, the Indian Navy in an official statement said, "The available information is being examined at Integrated Headquarters, Ministry of Defence (Navy) and an analysis is being carried out by the concerned specialists. It appears that the source of leak is from overseas and not in India."

A spokesperson for DCNS India was approached for a comment but there was none provided till the time this article was written.
 
Report also states that it was an ex-French naval officer who was serving as a contractor and copied this data.

I think these leaks are of same seriousness as Chinese espionage of F-35 program's subcontractor.

See the highlighted. DCNS is blaming India.



Scorpene submarine data leak: Here’s what we know so far about the case
Scorpene Submarine data leak: Read all about Scorpene Submarine data scandal here. The Govt has launched a probe after the leak.
By: Express Web Desk
New Delhi Updated: Aug 24, 2016, 15:58


  • By: Express Web Desk | New Delhi | Updated: August 24, 2016 3:58 pm
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    An employee looks at the propeller of a Scorpene submarine at the industrial site of the naval defence company and shipbuilder DCNS in La Montagne near Nantes, France (REUTERS/Stephane Mahe/File Photo)
    There has been a data leak and it is big. ‘The Australian’ newspaper reported on Wednesday that over 22,000 pages detailing the combat and performance capabilities of six Scorpene-class submarines produced by India in partnership with French company DCNS have been leaked. India had signed a $3.5 billion deal in 2005 to build six Scorpene-class submarines, designed by the French company, at the Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited in Mumbai. The newspaper report has said the information is sensitive and highly classified.

    INS Kalvari, first of the Scorpene-class submarines, is expected to be inducted into the Indian Navy later this year.

    Stand of the Indian government

    Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar said there has been a hacking and that a clear picture will emerge in the days to come.

    “I have asked the Navy chief to study the entire issue about what has been leaked, what is there about us and to what extent. It came to my knowledge at about 12 AM. What I understand is there is a hacking. So we will find out all this,” Parrikar told reporters in New Delhi.

    The Defence Minister said he does not suspect the leak to be 100 per cent since a lot of final integration lies with India.

    READ: All you need to know about the Navy’s stealth weapon

    What’s the nature of the data

    The data that has been leaked is reported to have details like specifications of the torpedo launch system, speed and condition needed for using the periscope and functioning of the above-water and underwater sensors. According to the report, the data tells the submarine crew where on the boat they can speak safely to avoid detection by the enemy.

    PTI said over 4,000 pages on the submarine’s combat management system are among the leaked information.

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    Indian Navy’s first Scorpene submarine of project 75 is seen after being undocked from Mazagon Docks Ltd, a naval vessel ship building yard, in Mumbai. (Express Photo by Ganesh Shirsekar)
    Source of the leak

    “The Australian” report claimed the data was most probably leaked not from India but from DCNS in France as it also includes separate confidential DCNS files on plans to sell French frigates to Chile and the French sale of the Mistral-class amphibious assault ship carrier to Russia. Since these projects of the DCNS have no link to India, there is high probability that the data files were removed from the company in France.

    But DCNS implied that the leak might have occurred at India’s end, rather than from France.

    “Uncontrolled technical data is not possible in the Australian arrangements,” the company said.


    Also read: Will probe leak, says DCNS

    “Multiple and independent controls exist within DCNS to prevent unauthorised access to data and all data movements are encrypted and recorded. In the case of India, where a DCNS design is built by a local company, DCNS is the provider and not the controller of technical data,” the company said.

    The data on the submarine was written in France for India in 2011 and is suspected of being removed from France in that same year by a former French Navy officer who was at that time a DCNS subcontractor.

    “The data is then believed to have been taken to a company in Southeast Asia, possibly to assist in a commercial venture for a regional navy. It was subsequently passed by a third party to a second company in the region before being sent on a data disk by regular mail to a company in Australia…It is unclear how widely the data has been shared in Asia or whether it has been obtained by foreign intelligence agencies,” the report said.


Fears in Australia

There are fears in Australia surrounding the security of data on the future fleet of its own Navy. French company DCNS had won the bid to design the new fleet of Australian $50 billion submarines.

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said it was important to note the submarine DCNS was building for India was a completely different model to the one it will build for Australia and the leaked information was a few years out of date, PTI reported.

“Nevertheless, any leak of classified information was a concern,” he was quoted as saying. The newspaper also said the company has assured Australia that the leak it has suffered in connection with the Indian submarines would not happen in the case of that country.

(With inputs from PTI)


http://indianexpress.com/article/in...ine-data-leak-indian-navy-dcns-facts-2993755/
 
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It would be a good read for Pakistani strategic planners. They would care less if it was a result of economic war or not.
 

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