Senate resolution against Atif Mian by opposition

[Vapnope]

So many asses on fire however good thing is decision is not going to change !

annnnnnnd expect another very important position being given to a member from minority community !

 

[Musafir117]

So many asses on fire however good thing is decision is not going to change !

annnnnnnd expect another very important position being given to a member from minority community !

Who?

 

[AMG_12]

So Shahbaz Sharif, who robbed Pakistan left right center, can't recite the shortest Surah of Quran but all eyes are on Atif Mian who can help improve Pakistan's economy? Custodians of the faithful, my behind.

 

[M. Sarmad]

But then he changed his mind and migrated to Pakistan.....?

No, his migration to Pakistan was not because he had changed his mind ... He had no other option ... In 1947, following partition, Maudodi was escorted to safety after violence broke out in the Gurdaspur District of Punjab, where the Jamaat e Islami and Maududi were based, and was taken to Lahore by units of the Pakistani army.

In words of Ayub Khan:
After independence "some of the Ulema decided to stay in India, others hastened to Pakistan to lend a helping hand. If they had not been able to save the Muslims from Pakistan they must now save Pakistan from the Muslims. Among them was Maulana Abul Aala Maududi, head of the Jamat-i-Islami, who had been bitterly opposed to Pakistan." Mohammad Ayub Khan, Friends not Masters, P-202

This line that you have just written is enough to show that you don't know about Islam and I am pretty sure you don't even know about KHATM-E- NABUWAT.

Those are actually Jinnah's words, not mine (Ahmmadis are Muslims if they say they are Muslims)
And I believe that Jinnah understood Islam much better than the Mullahs you blindly follow !!

 

[TMA]

No, his migration to Pakistan was not because he had changed his mind ... He had no other option ... In 1947, following partition, Maudodi was escorted to safety after violence broke out in the Gurdaspur District of Punjab, where the Jamaat e Islami and Maududi were based, and was taken to Lahore by units of the Pakistani army.

In words of Ayub Khan:
After independence "some of the Ulema decided to stay in India, others hastened to Pakistan to lend a helping hand. If they had not been able to save the Muslims from Pakistan they must now save Pakistan from the Muslims. Among them was Maulana Abul Aala Maududi, head of the Jamat-i-Islami, who had been bitterly opposed to Pakistan." Mohammad Ayub Khan, Friends not Masters, P-202



Those are actually Jinnah's words, not mine (Ahmmadis are Muslims if they say they are Muslims)
And I believe that Jinnah understood Islam much better than the Mullahs you blindly follow !!

Yeah I had my suspicions...I would have refused permission. Although still respect his scholarship....

 

[Imad.Khan]

i am going to list a few incidents that happened during the prophets time which everyone would be aware of.

1. After Jang-e-Badr, the prophet had offered to free the POWs that teach 10 muslims to read and write.
2. In Jang-e-Ahd, the reason the Muslims lost was due to the ingenuous strategy of Khalid Bin Waleed. Even our prophet was injured in that battle
3. There used to be an old woman that used to throw rubbish on the prophet everytime he walked past her house. one time when he(PBUH) was walking past her house and she wasn't there to throw rubbish on him, he knocked at the door and found that she was ill. He cared for her and due to which she converted.

Now if these mulla tolla were incharge, what would they have done

1. They would have rejected being taught by the POWs of jang-e-badr because they were non-muslims, and muslims would have remain uneducated
2. They would have got Khalid Bin Waleed assassinated, and the Muslim world would have lost its future greatest General.
3. They would have killed that old woman on blasphemy charges who would have died as a kafir instead of converting to a muslim.

So as you can see its these mulla tolla that actually do things that contradict the teachings and actions of our beloved prophet and then claim that they are better than the non-believers.

 

[AZ1]

i am going to list a few incidents that happened during the prophets time which everyone would be aware of.

1. After Jang-e-Badr, the prophet had offered to free the POWs that teach 10 muslims to read and write.
2. In Jang-e-Ahd, the reason the Muslims lost was due to the ingenuous strategy of Khalid Bin Waleed. Even our prophet was injured in that battle
3. There used to be an old woman that used to throw rubbish on the prophet everytime he walked past her house. one time when he(PBUH) was walking past her house and she wasn't there to throw rubbish on him, he knocked at the door and found that she was ill. He cared for her and due to which she converted.

Now if these mulla tolla were incharge, what would they have done

1. They would have rejected being taught by the POWs of jang-e-badr because they were non-muslims, and muslims would have remain uneducated
2. They would have got Khalid Bin Waleed assassinated, and the Muslim world would have lost its future greatest General.
3. They would have killed that old woman on blasphemy charges who would have died as a kafir instead of converting to a muslim.

So as you can see its these mulla tolla that actually do things that contradict the teachings and actions of our beloved prophet and then claim that they are better than the non-believers.

Bravo my friend what you have written is in 7-9 class islamic book which been taught in Pakistani schools and you think muslims in Pakistan or even all Islamic Scholars in Pakistan don't even know about all this? What you don't know is after Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) who was our first Khalifa? I bet you may not know the answer. It was Abu Bakar (R.A) now who was the first male person who believe on Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) I bet you don't know that either. It was Abu Bakar(R.A). He himself jihad against such muslims in those times who were spreading fitna that there are other prophets after Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H) please do read Islamic history once in your life. If these qadiyani were present in those time they would have been wajibul qatal which spread fitna regarding Islam and among Muslims.

Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam himself said that I am the last prophet after me there will be no prophet and Quran Paak is the last and final Holy Book.

I have two question for you.

- If you think mulla doesn't know anything and you doesn't respect them either why you pray behind him in mosque?

- Since you have given incidents quoted from 5th class of Islamic book. I have a question for you of 1st grade. What/Which is the 5 pillar of Islam?.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Bravo my friend what you have written is in 7-9 class islamic book which been taught in Pakistani schools and you think muslims in Pakistan or even all Islamic Scholars in Pakistan don't even know about all this? What you don't know is after Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) who was our first Khalifa? I bet you may not know the answer. It was Abu Bakar (R.A) now who was the first male person who believe on Hazrat Muhammad (P.B.U.H) I bet you don't know that either. It was Abu Bakar(R.A). He himself jihad against such muslims in those times who were spreading fitna that there are other prophets after Prophet Muhammad(P.B.U.H).

Nabi sallallahu alaihi wasallam himself said that I am the last prophet after me there will be no prophet and Quran Paak is the last and final Holy Book.

I have two question for you.

- If you think mulla doesn't know anything and you doesn't respect them either why you pray behind him in mosque?

- Since you have given incidents happened from 5th class of Islamic book. I have a question for you of 1st grade. What is the 5 pillar of Islam?.

It doesn't matter if these were in grade 1 or 2 or 10. Do you deny these teaching of the prophet? Also show me where the Khalifas said to ignore what the prophet said and do what they say?

As for your questions, i don't pray behind a wahabi mulla. the Imam of my mosque is educated in not just religion but he is also a civil engineer and he has never preached hatred (probably because he is not Pakistani).

for the 2nd one i am sure you don't wana talk about zakat or namaz or fasting or even Hajj, you want to talk about Shahda. Now what has this got to do with anything i said?

FYI Shahda translation is "Allah is the only god and the Muhammad is his messenger"

 

[AZ1]

for the 2nd one i am sure you don't wana talk about zakat or namaz or fasting or even Hajj, you want to talk about Shahda. Now what has this got to do with anything i said?

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You didn't answer me about Hazrat Abu Bakar(R.A) the first khalifa of Islam. If these qadiyani were present those times they would have been wajib ul qatal for spreading fitna. Do you deny this?

What civil engineering has to do with Islam? Okay go ask the same question to our Civil Engineer brother he will tell you then you will say he is also mulla tolla. Whatever contradicts your interest starting saying mulla tolla etc wouldn't change anything.

Just one last thing my brother if you don't pray behind wahabi for whatever reason then you can't perform hajj because you will have to listen to Hajj khutba given by Wahabi and have to pray behind him as well and No I am not Wahabi incase you think.

Done from my side.

 

[Imad.Khan]

You didn't answer me about Hazrat Abu Bakar(R.A) the first khalifa of Islam. If these qadiyani were present those times they would have been wajib ul qatal for spreading fitna. Do you deny this?

What civil engineering has to do with Islam? Okay go ask the same question to our Civil Engineer brother he will tell you then you will say he is also mulla tulla.

You need to do a bit more research on the war that you are referring to. In that war these people were actively revolting and even marched an army to capture Medina.

Now when i say Mulla tolla, i mean people that have no knowledge of Islam or distort or totally ignore what the prophet's teachings and actions. Like you who is trying to prove that what the Khalifa's did justifies your viewpoint while totally ignoring what the prophet did

You didn't answer me about Hazrat Abu Bakar(R.A) the first khalifa of Islam. If these qadiyani were present those times they would have been wajib ul qatal for spreading fitna. Do you deny this?

What civil engineering has to do with Islam? Okay go ask the same question to our Civil Engineer brother he will tell you then you will say he is also mulla tolla. Whatever contradicts your interest starting saying mulla tolla etc wouldn't change anything.

Just one last thing my brother if you don't pray behind wahabi for whatever reason then you can't perform hajj because you will have to listen to Hajj khutba given by Wahabi and have to pray behind him as well and No I am not Wahabi incase you think.

Done from my side.

Alhamdullah i have already performed hajj. Not every Arab is wahabi.

One last thing, if you were incharge of Pakistan, what would you have done with this guy?

 

[AZ1]

You need to do a bit more research on the war that you are referring to. In that war these people were actively revolting and even marched an army to capture Medina.

Now when i say Mulla tolla, i mean people that have no knowledge of Islam or distort or totally ignore what the prophet's teachings and actions. Like you who is trying to prove that what the Khalifa's did justifies your viewpoint while totally ignoring what the prophet did



Alhamdullah i have already performed hajj. Not every Arab is wahabi.

One last thing, if you were incharge of Pakistan, what would you have done with this guy?

Glad to know that you already performed hajj may ALLAH accept your hajj. Not going into who is wahabi or not.

These false prophet thing started the last days of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) and after Please do read below slide link as book will be too much. It's just 7 slides.


Above link should be enough if you want to read more about history of Islam please google it there are books, videos available you are already smart enough to know all these things.

We should not live in if or but world rather than what is really happening.

 

[Imad.Khan]

Glad to know that you already performed hajj may ALLAH accept your hajj. Not going into who is wahabi or not.

These false prophet thing started the last days of Prophet Muhammad (P.B.U.H) and after Please do read below slide link as book will be too much. It's just 7 slides.


Above link should be enough if you want to read more about history of Islam please google it there are books, videos available you are already smart enough to know all these things.

We should not live in if or but world rather than what is really happening.

I agree with majority of what you are saying but my thinking is different in terms of how we handle the situation. I really love the way that our prophet used to treat the unbelievers, its because of his actions that so many of them converted. I too want people to be saved from hellfire and by abusing them we will never achieve that. Instead if due to my actions or words from my mouth people are pushed away further from Islam, i fear that on the day of judgement Allah is gona ask me why you pushed them away.

Also the way i look at it if we can use the services of this guy to improve the lives of over 200 million muslims, i reckon we should do it.

 

[airmarshal]

Very good decision by Imran Khan government. When Quaid e Azam could appoint Sir Zafarullah, an Ahmedi as foreign minister, why cant Imran appoint Atif Mian as an advisor?

He is a bright star. The one who could get a Nobel prize in next five years. We have already lost one of our Nobel prize winners to religious bigotry.

Based on their belief, Ahmedis to me are not not Muslims. But Pakistan is their country as much its anyone else is.

 

[mingle]

Pak should follow ottoman policy we don't care who u r but tell us what u can do good for our empire. That was theior success formula.

 

[Zibago]

lols

Atif Taklu's vision is clear --- he is against Blasphemy law + doesn't recognize the articles relating to qadiyanis.

So?