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I am eagerly waiting for the new legislations ... Gillani win is a small loss in overall grand scheme of things. It just gives opposition something to do propaganda about whilst IK gets legislations passed.
Main thing is that public has witnessed what opposition did for Gillani win. That matter will run its course to SC eventually.
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PTI alliance now has majority for combined session. Go cry crocodile tears nowPTI ky Youthi PTI DownFall Start from Today ..!!!
Why PAPA stop to support Naya Pakistan ??? any IDEA bcz of mou ka fighter Imran Khan
Gilani loss is one seat that was recovered from KPK. Where is th upset and doomsday?
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I have a simple question here so anyone may please answer but with authentic count.
How many Senate Seats were supposed to be won by PTI given the total vote count=PTI and Coalition?
How many seats PTI actually won?
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How many Senate Seats were supposed to be won by PTI given the total vote count=PTI and Coalition?
How many seats PTI actually won?
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Khan will be back even if they kick him out.
Do people really think, there is a way to bring inflation down? Wait when ppp/pml rule, and roti will cost 20 rupee, and petrol is 200. Gov is holding the door, which right now is holding shit back. Which will come in anytime.
I am surprised, PDM really wants to rule Pakistan right now. If their narrative is IK can't rule and inflation is high, remember, IK took more loans than previous gov, and next government will have to pay them back, and they will take more. They will feel more heat.
This is never ending cycle.
The tricks opposition is playing, they will be screwed by the same. Its a long game. We are back to 1990s political instability.
Do people really think, there is a way to bring inflation down? Wait when ppp/pml rule, and roti will cost 20 rupee, and petrol is 200. Gov is holding the door, which right now is holding shit back. Which will come in anytime.
I am surprised, PDM really wants to rule Pakistan right now. If their narrative is IK can't rule and inflation is high, remember, IK took more loans than previous gov, and next government will have to pay them back, and they will take more. They will feel more heat.
This is never ending cycle.
The tricks opposition is playing, they will be screwed by the same. Its a long game. We are back to 1990s political instability.
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PTI + BAP + MQM + PMLQ = 29 seats of Senate.
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PTI coalition won exact number of seats as was predicted. Actually 1 or 2 more.
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"Complete Results.
PTI +BAP together win 26 seats.
PMLN wins only 5 seats.
PPP wins 7 seats. Let that sink.
Islamabad PTI- 1 PPP- 1
Punjab: PTI- 5 PMLN- 5 PMLQ- 1
Sindh: PPP- 7 PTI- 2 MQM- 2
Balochistan: BAP- 7 JUIF- 2 ANP- 1 BNPM- 2
KP: PTI- 10 BAP- 1 ANP- 1"
PTI +BAP together win 26 seats.
PMLN wins only 5 seats.
PPP wins 7 seats. Let that sink.
Islamabad PTI- 1 PPP- 1
Punjab: PTI- 5 PMLN- 5 PMLQ- 1
Sindh: PPP- 7 PTI- 2 MQM- 2
Balochistan: BAP- 7 JUIF- 2 ANP- 1 BNPM- 2
KP: PTI- 10 BAP- 1 ANP- 1"
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Islamabad seat is important because national assembly members voted for this not provincial ones. Losing seat from national assembly Parlimentarians has direct implications which means pti own members doesn't believe in prime minister choice. Moral authority matters that is why there is a process of vote of confidence which PM can opt while opposition can bring vote of no confidence.
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Even Zardari is moaning that Gillani didn't get enough seats. 169 is not enough to win a no confidence vote.
No confidence will not be easy for opposition. They are likely to try it but it will be difficult to stop IK for getting new legislations through before that.
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Those who are talking about dissolving national assembly are actually playing in the hands of opposition. This is exactly what opposition wants. Where as PM can have the control back if he wins vote of confidence as more likely he will win since voting will be conducted than by show off hands.
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Major setback for PTI as Gilani wins coveted Senate seat; results pour in
Gilani beats PTI's Hafeez Shaikh to win hotly contested Islamabad seat; PTI's Fozia Arshad takes federal seat for women.
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PPP's Yousuf Raza Gilani shakes hands with PTI's Hafeez Shaikh after the former won the election.
The polling time for 37 seats of the Senate came to a close at 5pm after voting was held smoothly under the supervision of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) with a total of 78 candidates contesting from Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan and Islamabad. The counting of votes is currently underway.
In a blow to the government, the joint opposition candidate Yousuf Raza Gilani won the hotly contested general seat from Islamabad, beating PTI's Abdul Hafeez Shaikh, according to unofficial and unverified results. Gilani won 169 votes, while Shaikh bagged 164 votes.
After Gilani was declared the winner, he was seen shaking hands and walking on the Senate floor with Shaikh. "I would like to thank the PDM (Pakistan Democratic Movement)," said Gilani at a press conference in the evening alongside PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari. "This win is a win for democracy."
Meanwhile, the women seat from the capital went to PTI's Fozia Arshad, who defeated PML-N's Farzana Kausar.
The first Senate hopeful to be declared a winner on a general seat was independent candidate Abdul Qadir from Balochistan.
Following candidates are among the winners, as per unofficial and unverified results:
Islamabad
Voting opens
The polling started at 9am and continued till 5pm without any break. ECP staff reached the Parliament House in Islamabad early morning on Wednesday. The campaign for this year's election ended at midnight on March 3.
In the National Assembly, the first vote was cast by PTI's Shafiq Arain, while the second one was cast by federal Minister for Water Resources Faisal Vawda.
NA Speaker Asad Qaiser, Prime Minister Imran Khan, PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, and Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif were among those who cast their votes.
Voting took place through secret ballots after a long-drawn open ballot controversy kept the ruling and opposition parties engaged in a war of words as well as a legal battle before the much-awaited Supreme Court decision.
Meanwhile, the vote of PTI lawmaker and Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on Kashmir Shehryar Khan Afridi was feared to have been rendered invalid after he signed his ballot paper. He later submitted a request to the ECP presiding officer seeking permission to recast his vote.
In the application, Afridi stated that he had been "feeling unwell for past few days" and couldn't attend party meetings for preparation for the Senate polls. "When I approached you to cast my vote I asked you and your staff but they failed to guide me. Later, I put my signature on the ballot papers instead of putting numbers," he said while addressing the presiding officer, requesting permission to recast his vote. A decision on his application will be announced later.
The math
The Senate — the upper house of parliament — was, until recently, a body of 104 lawmakers. Each serves a term of six years, barring resignation, disqualification, or other extraordinary circumstances. They are not all elected at the same time: rather, half are elected at one time, and the other half three years later.
In 2021, 52 senators (who were elected in 2015) are set to retire. The other 52 were elected in 2018 and will retire in 2024. However, elections are being held only on 48 seats this time after erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) were merged with KP.
Therefore, the Senate will now comprise 100 lawmakers; 23 each from all the provinces and four from Islamabad. The remaining four senators from Fata will retire in 2024.
The 23 seats allocated to a province comprise 14 general seats, four reserved for women, four for technocrats and one for minority member.
Earlier, all Senate candidates from Punjab were elected unopposed after major political parties — PTI, PML-N and PPP — agreed to withdraw candidatures of some of their respective hopefuls. As a result, out of the 11 seats, five each went to the PTI and the PML-N and one to the PML-Quaid, an ally of the PTI.
Read | Untangling the mystery: All you need to know about Senate elections
The ECP, in its code of conduct, had barred President Dr Arif Alvi and the governors of all the provinces from taking part in the election campaigns.
It had also instructed all candidates to open exclusive accounts for their election expenses and to make all transactions through it. They will have to submit their return of election expenses to the returning officer on Form C within five days from the date of election.
Election process
The Senate election is held through secret voting on the basis of single transferable vote through "preference voting". All four provincial assemblies are electoral colleges for the four respective assemblies.
Provincial assemblies
Punjab (47 votes* elect a senator)
There are 371 total seats in Punjab Assembly; however, only 368 are currently occupied. Of these, 181 are occupied by members of the PTI, 165 by PML-N members, 10 by PML-Q members, 7 by PPP members, 4 by independent lawmakers, and one by a member of the Pakistan Rah-e-Haq Party.
Sindh (22 votes* elect a senator)
The total seats in Sindh are 168. Currently, 99 of them are members of the PPP, 21 are members of MQM-P, 30 PTI, 14 Grand Democratic Alliance, three TLP and one MMA.
KP (19 votes* elect a senator)
The total seats in the KP Assembly after the merger of Fata are 145. Ninety-four are members of the PTI, 14 are members of MMA, 12 of the ANP, 7 of the PML-N, 5 of the PPP, 4 of BAP, 3 of JUI-F, one each of the PML-Q and Jamaat-i-Islami, and 4 are independent members.
Balochistan (9 votes* elect a senator)
The total number of seats in the Balochistan Assembly is 65 but currently 64 seats are occupied. Of these, 24 are BAP members, 10 BNP, 10 MMA, 7 PTI, 4 from the ANP, 3 BNP-A, 2 Hazara Democratic Party, one each from the PML-N, PkMAP and Jamhuri Watan Party, and one independent member.
Federal (171 votes* elect a senator)
At present, the National Assembly has 342 seats for lawmakers from across the country. It currently comprises 341 members. The ruling PTI holds 157 seats, PML-N 83, PPP 55, 15 MMA, MQM-P 7, BAP 5, PML-Q 4, BNP 4, GDA 3, AML 1, ANP 1, JWP 1, and four are independent members.
Prominent candidates
There are a total of 78 candidates contesting the 2021 Senate elections from the federal capital and the three provinces.
The candidates include 14 from the PTI, 13 from the PPP, two from the PML-N, two from MQM-P, 11 from BAP and one from TLP. In addition to this, three candidates will be contesting as independents.
Those who were elected to the upper house of parliament from Punjab include Saifullah Sarwar Khan Nyazee, Aon Abbas, Ejaz Ahmad Chaudhry and Syed Ali Zafar of the PTI, Prof Sajid Mir and Irfanul Siddiqui of the PML-N, and Kamil Ali Agha of the PML-Q.
Prominent Senate candidates from Sindh include PTI's Faisal Vawda (the party's only candidate for a general seat), current Deputy Chairman Senate Saleem Mandviwalla, Sherry Rehman, Farooq H. Naek and Taj Haider from the PPP, Pir Sadaruddin Shah of the Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) and MQM-P's Faisal Subzwari.
In KP, prominent politicians contesting the election include federal information minister Syed Shibli Faraz, special assistant to the prime minister Sania Nishtar and Liaqat Khan Tarakai, Maulana Attaur Rehman, Tariq Khattak and Ranjeet Singh from Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F), Taj Mohammad Afridi of BAP and PPP's Farhatullah Babar.
The PTI has no candidate for the Senate from Balochistan. Candidates from other parties include Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) founder Saeed Ahmed Hashmi and Sajid Tareen of the Balochistan National Party-Mengal (BNP-M).
Election controversy
Allegations of horse-trading are present during every Senate election but this year's polls were marred by controversies over the method of voting as the government sought to hold them through open ballot while opposition parties rejected the idea.
The ruling PTI filed a reference in the Supreme Court asking for its opinion on whether the elections could be held through open ballot, promulgated an ordinance, and introduced a constitutional amendment bill in the National Assembly, all just weeks before the polls were to take place.
On Monday, the Supreme Court announced that Senate polls would be held through secret ballot under Article 226 of the Constitution. A day later, the ECP said that this year's election would be "conducted as provided in the Constitution and law as per past practice".
Number of votes required to be elected to a General seat.
Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that PPP's Farhatullah Babar had won a Senate seat. The error is regretted.
With additional reporting by Fahad Chaudhry in Islamabad, Imtiaz Ali in Karachi and Sirajuddin in Peshawar.
Gilani beats PTI's Hafeez Shaikh to win hotly contested Islamabad seat; PTI's Fozia Arshad takes federal seat for women.
Dawn.comUpdated less than a minute ago
PPP's Yousuf Raza Gilani shakes hands with PTI's Hafeez Shaikh after the former won the election.
The polling time for 37 seats of the Senate came to a close at 5pm after voting was held smoothly under the supervision of the Election Commission of Pakistan (ECP) with a total of 78 candidates contesting from Sindh, Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, Balochistan and Islamabad. The counting of votes is currently underway.
In a blow to the government, the joint opposition candidate Yousuf Raza Gilani won the hotly contested general seat from Islamabad, beating PTI's Abdul Hafeez Shaikh, according to unofficial and unverified results. Gilani won 169 votes, while Shaikh bagged 164 votes.
After Gilani was declared the winner, he was seen shaking hands and walking on the Senate floor with Shaikh. "I would like to thank the PDM (Pakistan Democratic Movement)," said Gilani at a press conference in the evening alongside PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto-Zardari. "This win is a win for democracy."
Meanwhile, the women seat from the capital went to PTI's Fozia Arshad, who defeated PML-N's Farzana Kausar.
The first Senate hopeful to be declared a winner on a general seat was independent candidate Abdul Qadir from Balochistan.
Following candidates are among the winners, as per unofficial and unverified results:
Islamabad
- Yousuf Raza Gilani — PPP (General)
- Fozia Arshad — PTI (Women)
- Palwasha Khan — PPP (Women)
- Saleem Mandviwalla — PPP (General)
- Sherry Rehman — PPP (General)
- Farook Naek — PPP (Technocrats)
- Saifullah Abro — PTI (Technocrats)
- Khalida Ateeb — MQM-P (Women)
- Jam Mahtab Dahar — PPP (General)
- Taj Haider — PPP (General)
- Faisal Vawda — PTI (General)
- Faisal Subzwari — MQM-P (General)
- Shahadat Awan — PPP (General)
- Sania Nishtar — PTI (Women)
- Falak Naz — PTI (Women)
- Dost Muhammad Khan — PTI (Technocrats)
- Hamayun Mohmand — PTI (Technocrats)
- Gurdeep Singh — PTI (Minorities)
- Shibli Faraz — PTI (General)
- Liaquat Khan Tarakai — PTI (General)
- Faisal Saleem Rehman — PTI (General)
- Zeeshan Khanzada — PTI (General)
- Taj Muhammad Afridi — BAP (General)
- Sarfaraz Bugti — BAP (General)
- Manzoor Ahmed — BAP (General)
- Prince Ahmed Umer Ahmedzai — BAP (General)
- Maulana Abdul Ghafoor Haideri — JUI-F (General)
- Muhammad Qasim — BNP (General)
- Abdul Qadir — Independent (General)
Voting opens
The polling started at 9am and continued till 5pm without any break. ECP staff reached the Parliament House in Islamabad early morning on Wednesday. The campaign for this year's election ended at midnight on March 3.
In the National Assembly, the first vote was cast by PTI's Shafiq Arain, while the second one was cast by federal Minister for Water Resources Faisal Vawda.
NA Speaker Asad Qaiser, Prime Minister Imran Khan, PPP chairperson Bilawal Bhutto Zardari, and Leader of the Opposition Shehbaz Sharif were among those who cast their votes.
Voting took place through secret ballots after a long-drawn open ballot controversy kept the ruling and opposition parties engaged in a war of words as well as a legal battle before the much-awaited Supreme Court decision.
Meanwhile, the vote of PTI lawmaker and Chairman of the Parliamentary Committee on Kashmir Shehryar Khan Afridi was feared to have been rendered invalid after he signed his ballot paper. He later submitted a request to the ECP presiding officer seeking permission to recast his vote.
In the application, Afridi stated that he had been "feeling unwell for past few days" and couldn't attend party meetings for preparation for the Senate polls. "When I approached you to cast my vote I asked you and your staff but they failed to guide me. Later, I put my signature on the ballot papers instead of putting numbers," he said while addressing the presiding officer, requesting permission to recast his vote. A decision on his application will be announced later.
The math
The Senate — the upper house of parliament — was, until recently, a body of 104 lawmakers. Each serves a term of six years, barring resignation, disqualification, or other extraordinary circumstances. They are not all elected at the same time: rather, half are elected at one time, and the other half three years later.
In 2021, 52 senators (who were elected in 2015) are set to retire. The other 52 were elected in 2018 and will retire in 2024. However, elections are being held only on 48 seats this time after erstwhile Federally Administered Tribal Areas (Fata) were merged with KP.
Therefore, the Senate will now comprise 100 lawmakers; 23 each from all the provinces and four from Islamabad. The remaining four senators from Fata will retire in 2024.
The 23 seats allocated to a province comprise 14 general seats, four reserved for women, four for technocrats and one for minority member.
Earlier, all Senate candidates from Punjab were elected unopposed after major political parties — PTI, PML-N and PPP — agreed to withdraw candidatures of some of their respective hopefuls. As a result, out of the 11 seats, five each went to the PTI and the PML-N and one to the PML-Quaid, an ally of the PTI.
Read | Untangling the mystery: All you need to know about Senate elections
The ECP, in its code of conduct, had barred President Dr Arif Alvi and the governors of all the provinces from taking part in the election campaigns.
It had also instructed all candidates to open exclusive accounts for their election expenses and to make all transactions through it. They will have to submit their return of election expenses to the returning officer on Form C within five days from the date of election.
Election process
The Senate election is held through secret voting on the basis of single transferable vote through "preference voting". All four provincial assemblies are electoral colleges for the four respective assemblies.
Provincial assemblies
Punjab (47 votes* elect a senator)
There are 371 total seats in Punjab Assembly; however, only 368 are currently occupied. Of these, 181 are occupied by members of the PTI, 165 by PML-N members, 10 by PML-Q members, 7 by PPP members, 4 by independent lawmakers, and one by a member of the Pakistan Rah-e-Haq Party.
Sindh (22 votes* elect a senator)
The total seats in Sindh are 168. Currently, 99 of them are members of the PPP, 21 are members of MQM-P, 30 PTI, 14 Grand Democratic Alliance, three TLP and one MMA.
KP (19 votes* elect a senator)
The total seats in the KP Assembly after the merger of Fata are 145. Ninety-four are members of the PTI, 14 are members of MMA, 12 of the ANP, 7 of the PML-N, 5 of the PPP, 4 of BAP, 3 of JUI-F, one each of the PML-Q and Jamaat-i-Islami, and 4 are independent members.
Balochistan (9 votes* elect a senator)
The total number of seats in the Balochistan Assembly is 65 but currently 64 seats are occupied. Of these, 24 are BAP members, 10 BNP, 10 MMA, 7 PTI, 4 from the ANP, 3 BNP-A, 2 Hazara Democratic Party, one each from the PML-N, PkMAP and Jamhuri Watan Party, and one independent member.
Federal (171 votes* elect a senator)
At present, the National Assembly has 342 seats for lawmakers from across the country. It currently comprises 341 members. The ruling PTI holds 157 seats, PML-N 83, PPP 55, 15 MMA, MQM-P 7, BAP 5, PML-Q 4, BNP 4, GDA 3, AML 1, ANP 1, JWP 1, and four are independent members.
Prominent candidates
There are a total of 78 candidates contesting the 2021 Senate elections from the federal capital and the three provinces.
The candidates include 14 from the PTI, 13 from the PPP, two from the PML-N, two from MQM-P, 11 from BAP and one from TLP. In addition to this, three candidates will be contesting as independents.
Those who were elected to the upper house of parliament from Punjab include Saifullah Sarwar Khan Nyazee, Aon Abbas, Ejaz Ahmad Chaudhry and Syed Ali Zafar of the PTI, Prof Sajid Mir and Irfanul Siddiqui of the PML-N, and Kamil Ali Agha of the PML-Q.
Prominent Senate candidates from Sindh include PTI's Faisal Vawda (the party's only candidate for a general seat), current Deputy Chairman Senate Saleem Mandviwalla, Sherry Rehman, Farooq H. Naek and Taj Haider from the PPP, Pir Sadaruddin Shah of the Grand Democratic Alliance (GDA) and MQM-P's Faisal Subzwari.
In KP, prominent politicians contesting the election include federal information minister Syed Shibli Faraz, special assistant to the prime minister Sania Nishtar and Liaqat Khan Tarakai, Maulana Attaur Rehman, Tariq Khattak and Ranjeet Singh from Jamiat Ulema-i-Islam-Fazl (JUI-F), Taj Mohammad Afridi of BAP and PPP's Farhatullah Babar.
The PTI has no candidate for the Senate from Balochistan. Candidates from other parties include Balochistan Awami Party (BAP) founder Saeed Ahmed Hashmi and Sajid Tareen of the Balochistan National Party-Mengal (BNP-M).
Election controversy
Allegations of horse-trading are present during every Senate election but this year's polls were marred by controversies over the method of voting as the government sought to hold them through open ballot while opposition parties rejected the idea.
The ruling PTI filed a reference in the Supreme Court asking for its opinion on whether the elections could be held through open ballot, promulgated an ordinance, and introduced a constitutional amendment bill in the National Assembly, all just weeks before the polls were to take place.
On Monday, the Supreme Court announced that Senate polls would be held through secret ballot under Article 226 of the Constitution. A day later, the ECP said that this year's election would be "conducted as provided in the Constitution and law as per past practice".
Number of votes required to be elected to a General seat.
Correction: An earlier version of this story incorrectly stated that PPP's Farhatullah Babar had won a Senate seat. The error is regretted.
With additional reporting by Fahad Chaudhry in Islamabad, Imtiaz Ali in Karachi and Sirajuddin in Peshawar.
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Instead of waiting for opposition to bring vote of no confidence, Imran Khan himself should bring a move of confidence in Parliment. If they take more time than ppp will able remove pti alliance one by one. Its better to get over this set back ASAP.
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So how did PTI win technocrat seat with 174 votes from national assembly?
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