#SeditionDebate: No slack for JNU, every generation is anti-establishment but never against country!

[thesolar65]

We were students, too. Nothing extraordinary or magical about it. These JNU kids are not some new, improved product. We also were anti-establishment and happily loathed the system. We also protested and had rallies and sang songs from Joan Baez and Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan and had huge posters of Che Guevera on the walls of our rooms and batted for Fidel Castro. We knew what it was to be blowin’ in the wind and we believed fervently a change would come. We read Eldridge Cleaver’s Soul on Ice, it was our almanac, and from Berkeley to Woodstock to the fight against corruption in Bihar, we also swayed in solidarity.

We thought the government was the pits and was there only to ruin our happiness and be the boot on the neck. But never the country. There was a difference, always a difference.


Student demographics are slowly changing in JNU. Solaris

We marched against Enoch Powell and his anti-coloureds rant in Britain. We screamed ourselves hoarse over apartheid in South Africa. At the height of our adolescent rage we backed the Naxalites in West Bengal and found it also romantic to have candle light vigils. We had our share of sit ins and walk outs and waving of banners. And we came back home with Jimi Hendrix in our hearts.

It was the age of protest and the flower children. We cried with the world, were less insular, more global, heard the voices in the night Bobby. We heard them but we never slagged off the country. The authorities, the police, the bureaucrats, the venal and the evil politician, but never equated them with the country. We did not become pro-China in 1962 after it won the war against us. We did not have pro-Pakistani rallies in 1965 and 1971, that would have been unthinkable.

We had great issues. The feminine mystique. The Vietnam war. Racism. Corruption on the home front. We also were not open to any discussion because we were 18 and our parents were ignorant and teachers tools of the system, which itself was insufferable, and the cops were fuzz and we were victims of this conspiracy called governance and we would fight it. We were invincible.

But we were never anti-India and we did not give comfort and succour to those who did not wish us well.

So let’s not include such conduct as we see in the JNU case as a reflection of the students ‘we are forever and a day’ exuberance. That is a cop out for rank bad behaviour. Either they are carrying on this anti-national activity of their own volition or they are being used as pawns by leftist groups. Whatever, they have to lie on the bed they have made. Also, let's not downplay the seriousness of their intent. Slogans like “destruction of India” are raised and it is wished that India is carved up into sixteen pieces (‘solah tukde’), they don’t become less serious because they are raised within JNU or that those raising them are students.

It was not just a bunch of students in experiment and those who are now saying, kids will be kids, should wake up to the reality and Mommy and Daddy should have more than just a little chat with them.

That’s the difference. Don’t touch my country and if you don’t like being Indian the door is wide open, bug off.

@dadeechi @mkb95 @chhota bheem @Alphacharlie

 

[CHD]

These kinds of acts will increase as much you push your customes down the muslims throats by banning them from beef, calling them Pakistanis every day whenever somethings little happens, ofcourse then they will shout pro Pakistani slogans as its the hindus of india who are calling them Pakistanis and telling them to go their.

 

[kasper95]

These kinds of acts will increase as much you push your customes down the muslims throats by banning them from beef, calling them Pakistanis every day whenever somethings little happens, ofcourse then they will shout pro Pakistani slogans as its the hindus of india who are calling them Pakistanis and telling them to go their.

at least know who is involved, before coming up with Hindu or Muslim . and don't worry about Indian Muslims they are fine here ,don't trust me offer them Pakistani citizenship and see the their response and advice cover your face when you do that ,you don't like getting wet do you.

 

[Rajkumar]

That’s the difference. Don’t touch my country and if you don’t like being Indian the door is wide open, bug off.

Exactly,

Give them a boat and let them sail to land of pure. I considered my self very liberal and favored integration of unsatisfied ones but this made me furious.

What rights they do not have which a citizen of India has ? "Azaadi" my foot . Now time to kill each anti national down to last child ...yes you heard it, last child . Enough tolerance.

 

[libertycall]

Exactly,

Give them a boat and let them sail to land of pure. I considered my self very liberal and favored integration of unsatisfied ones but this made me furious.

What rights they do not have which a citizen of India has ? "Azaadi" my foot . Now time to kill each anti national down to last child ...yes you heard it, last child . Enough tolerance.

Pakistanis don't want them. It's taken enough of the Gangetic Plain people. Please keep your people on your side of the border, the last lot you sent have done enough damage.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

These kinds of acts will increase as much you push your customes down the muslims throats by banning them from beef, calling them Pakistanis every day whenever somethings little happens, ofcourse then they will shout pro Pakistani slogans as its the hindus of india who are calling them Pakistanis and telling them to go their.

Come on, we dont need lectures from a Muslim of Islamic country. We have our own ways of handling them. The Indian muslims are safe under Indian constitution. I will see how much of your eyes will wet in support of minority Hindus in pakistan when they demand their own separate civil law.
So , remain in your borders and think about the terrorists who are blowing your schools rather than poking nose in our lands.

We were students, too. Nothing extraordinary or magical about it. These JNU kids are not some new, improved product. We also were anti-establishment and happily loathed the system. We also protested and had rallies and sang songs from Joan Baez and Leonard Cohen and Bob Dylan and had huge posters of Che Guevera on the walls of our rooms and batted for Fidel Castro. We knew what it was to be blowin’ in the wind and we believed fervently a change would come. We read Eldridge Cleaver’s Soul on Ice, it was our almanac, and from Berkeley to Woodstock to the fight against corruption in Bihar, we also swayed in solidarity.

We thought the government was the pits and was there only to ruin our happiness and be the boot on the neck. But never the country. There was a difference, always a difference.


Student demographics are slowly changing in JNU. Solaris

We marched against Enoch Powell and his anti-coloureds rant in Britain. We screamed ourselves hoarse over apartheid in South Africa. At the height of our adolescent rage we backed the Naxalites in West Bengal and found it also romantic to have candle light vigils. We had our share of sit ins and walk outs and waving of banners. And we came back home with Jimi Hendrix in our hearts.

It was the age of protest and the flower children. We cried with the world, were less insular, more global, heard the voices in the night Bobby. We heard them but we never slagged off the country. The authorities, the police, the bureaucrats, the venal and the evil politician, but never equated them with the country. We did not become pro-China in 1962 after it won the war against us. We did not have pro-Pakistani rallies in 1965 and 1971, that would have been unthinkable.

We had great issues. The feminine mystique. The Vietnam war. Racism. Corruption on the home front. We also were not open to any discussion because we were 18 and our parents were ignorant and teachers tools of the system, which itself was insufferable, and the cops were fuzz and we were victims of this conspiracy called governance and we would fight it. We were invincible.

But we were never anti-India and we did not give comfort and succour to those who did not wish us well.

So let’s not include such conduct as we see in the JNU case as a reflection of the students ‘we are forever and a day’ exuberance. That is a cop out for rank bad behaviour. Either they are carrying on this anti-national activity of their own volition or they are being used as pawns by leftist groups. Whatever, they have to lie on the bed they have made. Also, let's not downplay the seriousness of their intent. Slogans like “destruction of India” are raised and it is wished that India is carved up into sixteen pieces (‘solah tukde’), they don’t become less serious because they are raised within JNU or that those raising them are students.

It was not just a bunch of students in experiment and those who are now saying, kids will be kids, should wake up to the reality and Mommy and Daddy should have more than just a little chat with them.

That’s the difference. Don’t touch my country and if you don’t like being Indian the door is wide open, bug off.

@dadeechi @mkb95 @chhota bheem @Alphacharlie

This is the exact time. There is a limit to tolerance. The political parties in opposition are hell bound in creating the atmosphere of mistrust among masses by creating these type of issues.

Budget session is about to start, and i see the foul play of JNU's issue. I am sure it is the stinking brainchild of sickular lobby who cannot see anything other than politics of majority and minority.

These are dangerous trends and before UP election i am sure there will be major riots played by anti BJP lobby to put the current government as criminal.

These people have already tried this sinister plan during the Bihar election by creation Dadri and I am very scared this will be repeated again at the cost of innocent villages or people who are not even aware of these happenings, whose lives will be taken back by people who are supposed to fight elections for the same people benefits.

 

[Brahmaputra Mail]

These kinds of acts will increase as much you push your customes down the muslims throats by banning them from beef, calling them Pakistanis every day whenever somethings little happens, ofcourse then they will shout pro Pakistani slogans as its the hindus of india who are calling them Pakistanis and telling them to go their.

Describe Muslim throats. Is it different from any other throat ? What colour is it ?

 

[Abba_Dabba_Jabba]

Every new generation has all the right to protest against establishment, but slogans against Nation can never be tolerated. Plus if those group are questioning the decisions of Constitutional bodies in this case Supreme Court then they are definitely at fault.

Let the police do their job, and if these so called student wants to play politics then they should be ready for the action.