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second pilot captured was Israeli: Lt. Gen. (r) Ghulam Mustafa

Please have a correction, we captured it. But we don't have any right now. Better not ask the inside of this thing. You can understand

I am not sure if the Israeli pilot has been returned but it seems like Pakistan was able to convince US & Israel to impress upon India on Kashmir issue.

India is under tremendous pressure from US on Kashmir.

US has been acting as the mediator and hyphenating of Indo-Pak relations is back in the US policy circles.

While IK has been on the offensive, Modi has been very defensive.

Watch this video

"Spoke To My Two Good Friends": Trump After Call With PM Modi, Imran Khan | Read

https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/new...rendra-modi-imran-khan-524884?video-justadded
 
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I have one question , why did US deployed THAAD Missile in israel on 4th of march ??
because of Tensions with Iran. If anything like this is True, Pentagon wouldn't be giving 21 Gun Salute to your Army Chief during recent visit. If US pressurize Pakistan on this, they can easily get it done in a day or 2. Don't forget Turkish incident of arresting American priest and their Currency crash in next 48 Hrs. In fact, Pakistan should be thankful that Israel is not involved. Else it would be cluster F*uck waiting for you guys not only on military space but Economic and political space as well.
 
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I am not sure if the Israeli pilot has been returned but it seems like Pakistan was able to convince US & Israel to impress upon India on Kashmir issue.

India is under tremendous pressure from US on Kashmir.

US has been acting as the mediator and hyphenating of Indo-Pak relations is back in the US policy circles.

While IK has been on the offensive, Modi has been very defensive.

Watch this video

"Spoke To My Two Good Friends": Trump After Call With PM Modi, Imran Khan | Read

https://www.ndtv.com/video/news/new...rendra-modi-imran-khan-524884?video-justadded

Would US ever like to see an Israeli cream imprisoned in the worst condition jails of Pakistan ?
Why is US so merciful in Kashmir issue now ?
GIVE and TAKE rule
 
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VERA NG is there, exactly for this.
I think it is difficult for us to track and detect stealth jets like f35 when russia and china are struggling to develop radar for such jets
 
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I wanted to check if the captured pilot was same as the one in this report?

https://herald.report/how-an-israel...resident-trump-swiftly-defused-the-situation/

Islamabad/Arshad Mehmood
Former Pakistani ambassador and well-known defense analyst Zafar Hilali claimed that Pakistan has captured an Israeli Pilot, who was flying an Indian Fighter jet SU-30, shot down by PAF jet during Indo-Pak recent escalation. He was discussing the matter during a Tv show on Chanel 92.

The news about the capturing of Israeli pilot in Pakistan has been circulating since last few days. Apparently, these speculations emerged on 28th February, when Hananya Natfali, an Israeli social media activist shared a group photo of Israeli air force pilots with the Indian fighter pilots.

MUST WATCH: THIS INDIAN BABY WAS SAVED BY AN ISRAELI.

“AN ISRAELI WOMAN DONATED HER LIVER TO MY SON”. #INDIA

RETWEET THIS! PIC.TWITTER.COM/J9AHPZXHHB

— HANANYA NAFTALI (@HANANYANAFTALI) MARCH 9, 2019



Islamabad based Sources revealed to The Herald Report that the reason why it was kept secret because as the arrest of Israeli Pilot was conveyed to the Israeli authorities, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu immediately contacted President Trump to resolve the volatile situation.

According to these sources, President Trump through secret diplomatic channels immediately approached PM Imran Khan and requested him to de-escalate the situation.

To avoid global criticism, naturally, India and Israel could not acknowledge this bitter reality that Indian jet SU-30 was flown by Israeli pilot.

Even It is not possible for India to say that another pilot is in Pakistan’s custody. On the other hand, Israel could not accept that its pilot had flown to attack Pakistan.

Former ambassador Zafar Hilali also revealed that Israeli PM Netanyahu has requested President Trump to play a major role for the release of Israeli Pilot.

It is aforementioned that On the morning of 27th February, Pakistan Air force had shot down two Indian aircraft, one was a MIG -21 whose pilot was captured and later released to India.

However, the second destroyed jet SU-30 which was allegedly flown by Israeli Pilot, Its wreckage fell on the Indian side of Kashmir, while the ejected pilot landed on Pakistani soil where he was captured by Pakistani troops.

Immediate after the incident, Major General Asif Ghafoor, DG Armed Forces Media Wing held an urgent press briefing and told that Pakistani forces had captured two Indian pilots, and one of them is transferred to the military hospital, while another pilot Wing/Comdr Abhi Nandhan was kept in the Army Unit amid tightened security.

IN RESPONSE TO PAF STRIKES THIS MORNING AS RELEASED BY MOFA, IAF CROSSED LOC. PAF SHOT DOWN TWO INDIAN AIRCRAFTS INSIDE PAKISTANI AIRSPACE. ONE OF THE AIRCRAFT FELL INSIDE AJ&K WHILE OTHER FELL INSIDE IOK. ONE INDIAN PILOT ARRESTED BY TROOPS ON GROUND WHILE TWO IN THE AREA.

— MAJ GEN ASIF GHAFOOR (@OFFICIALDGISPR) FEBRUARY 27, 2019



Later Major General Asif tweeted that only one Indian pilot is in the custody of Pakistan. Since then nowhere about of the other pilot which was admitted in Military Hospital has been disclosed.

On the terms of Anonymity, Well placed reliable Intelligence sources also claimed that on 27th February, India had planned major missile attacks on Pakistani soils with the tactical support of Israeli military experts. Pakistan Intelligence agencies thwarted the plan and a strong message was conveyed to the Indian authorities that India will face dire consequences if it would attack Pakistan.

Prominent Defense and Security Analyst Air Marshall (Retd) Shahid Latif also tweeted that Israel and India had the patronage of a superpower due to which they jointly planned an attack on Pakistan. Pakistani authorities learned about it on time and had warned India of the consequences.

ISRAEL AND INDIA HAD THE PATRONAGE OF A SUPER POWER DUE TO WHICH THEY JOINTLY PLANNED AN ATTACK ON PAKISTAN. PAKISTANI AUTHORITIES LEARNT ABOUT IT ON TIME AND HAD WARNED INDIA OF THE CONSEQUENCES, IF SHE ESCALATES THE TENSION ANY FURTHER, AFTER WHICH INDIA BACKED OFF.

— AM SHAHID LATIF (RETD) (@AMSHAHIDLATIF) MARCH 4, 2019



Col (R) Zaid Hamid a veteran of Soviet-Afghan war and National Security Commentator also confirmed that Israelis officials were taking the active part in recent escalation.

Zaid Hamid also claimed that there is a reason why the US immediately deployed Thad anti-ballistic missile system in Israel.

Pakistan leading English Daily Dawn also reported that India with the backing of Israel and at the peak of its standoff with Pakistan had last week planned a “dangerous attack” to be executed from its Rajasthan airbase, a highly placed government source revealed on Monday.

THERE IS A REASON WHY US IMMEDIATELY DEPLOYED THAD ANTI BALLISTIC MISSILE SYSTEM IN ISRAEL.
FEAR OF GOD HAS BEEN PUT INTO THEIR HEARTS.
PAKISTAN ALSO SHOWED ITS CAPABILITY TO ENGAGE BOTH INDIA & ISRAEL AT THE SAME TIME.
THIS HAS STUNNED US TOO…HTTPS://T.CO/FKRKRUOYZL

— ZAID HAMID (@ZAIDZAMANHAMID) MARCH 7, 2019



Timely intelligence and backdoor messaging made it clear to India that a befitting response would be given if it were to go ahead with the planned attack, one which would possibly take the countries to a “point of no return”.

Interestingly, In 1974, a PAF fighter pilot Abdul Sattar Alvi shot down the Israeli Air Force Mirage during the Golan heights War in Syria. He was serving as a military advisor in the Syrian Air Force during the Arab-Israel war in 1973.

Earlier in August 2016, The Israel prominent daily Jeruselum Post “Jpost” reported that Israel, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates F-16s had participated in joint military exercises as part of the US Air Force’s elite Red Flag drill at Nellis Air Force Base in the Nevada desert.

Red Flag drill is considered as the US military’s “premier air-to-air combat training exercise, in which participating countries simulate dog fights to improve both their aviation skills and their military’s international connections.

The Israeli military did not officially comment on the presence of Pakistani and United Arab Emirates pilots at the Red Flag exercise

The Aviationist website reported sightings of Pakistani jets on their way to the exercise. Plans to include Pakistan and the UAE were first announced by the US Air Force in 2015, Jpost further quoted.

Nevertheless, Israel and Pakistan have no diplomatic relations, despite other Muslim-majority countries have forged ties with the Jewish state, including Jordan, Egypt, and Turkey in the Middle East while Azerbaijan, among others, in central Asia.

Dr. Nimrod Goren, Director of The Israeli Institute for Regional Foreign Policies”Mitvim“, while talking to the scribe briefly told that Relations with Pakistan are usually not high on the agenda in Israel, and I don’t think the average citizen will know much about the issue.

Nevertheless, Israel aspires for better relations with regional countries, and I’m sure that a move for better ties with Pakistan will be welcome. There have been reports about Israel and Pakistan taking part in a joint military drill in 2016, and there was a recent statement by Netanyahu that Israel doesn’t see Pakistan as its enemy, Dr. Nimrod said.

There may be new sensitivities involved, now that Israel and India are moving closer to each other, Dr. Nimrod further added.

Anyhow The Pakistani or Israeli officials have not commented yet, about the current developing situation about the holding of Israeli pilot with the Pakistani forces.

When Indians are insisting on the story, than it didn't happened!
Now i can relax.
 
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apple and oranges

totally two different events

1 is the unproven claim of downing Israeli pilot from an unknown Indian plane which Israelis don't fly and wont risk crossing into Pakistan

2. is a missile defence system which Americans only have upgraded after the already deployed patriot systems. it could be 27 Feb 1st Apr or 23 March for all we know. big deal it was dead on 4th of March.
why?

because they could and have sworn to protect Israel. their Anges cruisers can shoot down any Israeli bound missile from Indian Ocean or from Persian Gulf due to their over enveloping range. and they have anti missile defense deployed and manned by US personnel and Turkey as well.

no problem with watching Dr Shahid's programs and his claims but please be careful with his outlandish conspiracies


oh please


if someone that important then he will be treated in a military hospital not in a christian aid govt hospital that has very substandard security and patient care
Thanks Irfan
I am amazed people are watching this level of mumbo jumbo conspiracy theories; it is just people like these who thrive on fake news because they have audience who are niave and can be misdirected to their own agenda.
 
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DGISPR have said in one of the talk shows (that the 2nd person captured lost his live while treatment in CMH), someone posted the clip it in this forum few times.

Regarding this thread, Lt Gen Mustafa doesnt seem to be saying it outright that yes it was israeli pilot, but a rather "i dont have doubt" which indicates he doesnt know first hand but is rather trying to make sense of DG ISPR statements in the conference. Also, this Lt Gen is retired, if Musharraf who was army chief and president not too long ago have claimed that he does not know every detail happening in the governments after him, then surely a Lt Gen would know even less
 
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