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"SCO is about to admit India and Pakistan as full members"

Galaxy said:
SCO is very small group compare with NATO. Nato can go in War against any country for the sake of terrorism. SCO is just about drug traffics, terrorism. It won't stop, Just discuss. :coffee:
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i wouldnt say its small. russia might not be the old soviet union but it still has some of the best military technology still. China has probably caught up or will catch up fairly soon. In 5 years there wont be such a great difference between nato and sco.

sco and nato are about security. i dont think theyre very different in their stated aim.
 
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roadrunner said:
i think this is true because india has just bought nato places, pakistan is switching from american to chinese.

this makes india dependent to a bit on NATO upgrades/parts, pakistan will be dependent on SCO upgrades/parts.
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India is not part of NATO nor SCO. It's not necessary to be part of any group. India has independent diplomacy since decades. India has good relations with Most of the NATO countries including U.S., U.K.,France, etc. and Russia and it's allies in SCO. Also, India is also been Invited in ASEAN. Japan,SK, Vietnam which will not be part of SCO are also having good relations with India. This is diplomacy. having good terms with everyone. India is only part of Ecnomical Groups like BRIC,G-20,SAARC,etc. Hope you understand. :tup: Pakistan is not facing such situation. So, It's easy for Pakistan.
 
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roadrunner said:
i wouldnt say its small. russia might not be the old soviet union but it still has some of the best military technology still. China has probably caught up or will catch up fairly soon. In 5 years there wont be such a great difference between nato and sco.

sco and nato are about security. i dont think theyre very different in their stated aim.
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It's not about who is powerful and who is not. SCO doesn't have any role to go beyond the limit. It's only for some military exercise, discussion on drug trafficking and terrorism. Each year, there are many Joint Military exercises among India-Russia and even India-China too. India has very less connection with drug trafficking. 5 Years to 20 Years, There will be always big difference. If there is concern in Yemen, Does Russia or China or India will go in War in Yemen ? Of course Not. No one will go. Asian countries are Not U.S. which has defence budget of 300 Billion $ for international war + Whole Europe/West Asia/Africe supporting. You need to understand the concept of SCO.
 
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Galaxy said:
India is not part of NATO nor SCO. It's not necessary to be part of any group. India has independent diplomacy since decades. India has good relations with Most of the NATO countries including U.S., U.K.,France, etc. and Russia and it's allies in SCO. Also, India is also been Invited in ASEAN. Japan,SK, Vietnam which will not be part of SCO are also friends of India. This is diplomacy. having terms with everyone :tup: Pakistan is not facing such situation. So, It's easy for Pakistan.
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i'd be surprised if it was asked to join because it is looking for stronger relations outside of SCO.
 
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Galaxy said:
It's not about who is powerful and who is not. SCO doesn't have any role to go beyond the limit. It's only for some military exercise, discussion on drug trafficking and terrorism. Each year, there are many Joint Military exercises among India-Russia and even India-China too. India has very less connection with drug trafficking. 5 Years to 20 Years, There will be always big difference. If there is concern in Yemen, Does Russia or China or India will go in War in Yemen ? Of course Not. No one will go. Asian countries are Not U.S. which has defence budget of 300 Billion $ + Whole Europe/West Asia/Africe supporting. You need to understand the concept of SCO.
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what are the limits?

security means security. if yemen invaded and and destabilized SCO hypothetically then what does SCO do? Nothing?

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Galaxy said:
India is Joining because it's not a big and important organisations. Simple !!
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why would India join if it wasnt important? :cheesy:
 
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China, Russia supported India for Permanent Seat in UNSC. Japan also Supported India. Asean Countries too. France,U.K.,U.S. too. India can't go against any country to make another friend. Biggest example is Palestine and Israel. This is India's Diplomacy. :tup:
 
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roadrunner said:
what are the limits?

security means security. if yemen invaded and and destabilized SCO hypothetically then what does SCO do? Nothing?

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why would India join if it wasnt important? :cheesy:
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Why India didn't joined NATO after multiple Invitation ? because that will lead to specific Group. SCO will not make big difference for India (West or East). It's North-Central-South Asia group which will help each other in drug trafficking and terrorism and not any aggression against western countries. You are think-tank- You must understand this. :cheesy:
 
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Galaxy said:
China, Russia supported India for Permanent Seat in UNSC. Japan also Supported India. Asean Countries too. France,U.K.,U.S. too. India can't go against any country to make another friend. Biggest example is Palestine and Israel. This is India's Diplomacy. :tup:
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off topic.. india joining the unsc weakens it imo since it has un resolutioins against it on the kashmir conflict.
 
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Galaxy said:
Why India didn't joined NATO after multiple Invitation ? because that will lead to specific Group. SCO will not make big difference for India (West or East). It's North-Central-South Asia group which will help each other in drug trafficking and terrorism and not any aggression against western countries. You are think-tank- You must understand this. :cheesy:
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India was invited to join nato? when was that?
 
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Galaxy said:
lol. Why India will bring Kashmir issue when it's not disputed ?? Update your Knowledge ASAP. :cheers:


Jammu and Kashmir removed from list of 'disputes' under UN

Kashmir Dispute No Longer an 'Unresolved' Issue - UN - PakPassion - Pakistan Cricket Forum

Un removes kashmir - UN removes J&K from list of unresolved issues | Pakistan News, Political Talk Shows, Live Video News, TV Channels, Current Affairs, Recorded Talk Shows, Sports, Pakistan Youth, Online Movies, Videos & Articles
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Indian media have carried many reports that UN resolutions are no longer valid which is completely untrue. This is probably why Indians get their facts all wrong about kashmir.

Un resolutions do not disappear. They remain in effect until the dispute is resolved. I've posted links to show they still exist. It's not good to have any permanent member flouting un resolutions.
 
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roy_gourav said:
For SCO to succeed it will have to control nations like Iran who insist on obliterating Israel. Or country like Pakistan who insist on getting all of Kashmir. Cause if India is coerced into making concessions on Kashmir, it will back out, and if Pakistan is coerced to make concessions or at least stick with status quo on Kashmir, it won't be happy. And knowing the history of Pakistan-American relationship and American influence in Pakistan, it won't take too long or much for Pakistan to swivel back to the American camp.

Its not all that easy, and knowing America and its history that country isn't going to go down all that easily. Who knows they or Europe might come up with cheaper and alternative source of energy and start selling that to the rest of the world Knowing their past technological and scientific achievements.

Also Bhadrakumar is an ex diplomat.
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Pakistan afaik wants plebiscite in Kashmir. India does not. anyway this is all offtopic.

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Riaz Mohammed said:
you ought to read the news more often.
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more bolly drugs? a neutral link will do. it would be big news.
 
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