Saudis may buy 48 Rafales In Addition to EF.

[Kompromat]

dude take that stick out of your ***
why do you take the moral high ground all the time?

always telling people to do this and do that if you don't like what they're saying

Reported.....!!

 

[Barrett]

Saudis may buy 48 Rafales In Addition to EF.

Fancy toys for Air Shows, nothing more.

 

[jha]

^^^ very true...they dont even need EFs...

 

[Kompromat]

Saudis may buy 48 Rafales In Addition to EF.

Fancy toys for Air Shows, nothing more.

They would come in handy in times of war too.

 

[Barrett]

They would come in handy in times of war too.

War with who? Yemen? they dont need EF nor Rafales for that.

The ones they need them for are not even considered enemies(Israel)
They got enough opportunities previously to show off their heroics and their fancy gadgetry

West is sucking on the Saudi oil and money like leeches, from $ 25,000 hotel rooms to cars worth fortunes and multi billion dollar defense deals.

 

[graphican]

Saudis biggest enemy is Iran.
Iran and Saudi arabia have been fighting for thousands of years and it continues to this very day.
Saudis pump money into the taliban and anti Iran groups like jundollah and Iran funds hezbollah and anti saudi groups in yemen and also creates unrest in the south of Saudi.
We had problems before Islam, we had problems after Islam and we have had problems both during the time of the shah and today. Saudis will make out w/ Israel if they have to but not with the "ajams"

Who are Taliban to Saudi Arabia? Arabs? Who are Pakistanis to Saudi Arabia? Arabs? We are all ajams and so is Iran. What is this logic that Iranian Ajams are not friendly because they are ajams and Paksitani or Afghan Ajams are friendly even though they are Ajams. There is some better reason of this conflict and lets keep this arab-ajam discussion where it suits that is - no-where!

I don't know how Saudi-Arabia and Iran has been before Islam but after Islam there are two major sects of Islam that are probably the reason of contention between the two. Saudi-Arabia and Iran are the largest oil producing countries of the world and there might be some business reason behind this confrontation as well. BUT Muslims of the world are facing bigger challenges from non-Muslims, USA, Israel and Zionists spread throughout the world are just to name a few. Why the hell we don't try to sattle our differences and accept the other the way others are. After all LA-ILAHA-ILLALLAH, MUHAMAD-RASUL-ALLAH is said by every Muslim. When our base is the same, why cannot the differences lieing at some later level not be tolerated?

 

[blain2]

They keep buying because it is fancy and shiny. They're buying more Eurofighters and more F-15s, possibly F-15SEs and now Rafales!

Can the same not be said about India? Each nation is entitled to buy what they feel is appropriate for them.

 

[blain2]

War with who? Yemen? they dont need EF nor Rafales for that.

The ones they need them for are not even considered enemies(Israel)
They got enough opportunities previously to show off their heroics and their fancy gadgetry

West is sucking on the Saudi oil and money like leeches, from $ 25,000 hotel rooms to cars worth fortunes and multi billion dollar defense deals.

Saudis have a threat perception that includes Iran and Israel. They equip their forces accordingly.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well I think people are jumping to conclusions

Realities are Saudia is a vast vast , territory of desert , oasis and some green city areas.....

They need ample fighters to prtect the borders from 4 fronts and 3 ocean

Things have changed from Saudis since last 10 years so they are adjusting to being self reliant on defences of their nation

So they have diversified their defene assets and not just relying on one defensie partner.

They are buying from US - > Silent Eagles F15S (Another 30-40)
They are buyin from France -> Rapheal (48 planes)
They are buying from Europe - > Typhoon (72 +72 planes)
They are buying from Russia -> 100 helicopters for army
They are buying from US -> 12 More Apache (They got 12 already)

So they are using different vendors , it would be great if they also got 50 JF17 thudners ordered from us , it would be great for KSA airforce

They have seen first hand destrution of Iraq - etc just goes to show with out a good airforce / army/ Navy they are sitting ducks ..

If for ever reason , the media decides that now west must go to war with Saudis , then obviously they have learned their lesson and now are in process to build up their defences

I think , we must realize that in next 4-5 years Saudia Army/Airfore will be top airforce in Western Asia

Unless Pakistan also gets J10B and J11 or J14 deals secured

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

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[Rank]

if u have Gun doesnt mean u have balls to press trigger... we are one of those who dont have soo called STATE OF THE ART guns but we have balls to press triggr!!

"Everyone have weapons ... but those who have gutz to use with the same power or ahead power enemy... they are very very limited"

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

if u have Gun doesnt mean u have balls to press trigger... we are one of those who dont have soo called STATE OF THE ART guns but we have balls to press triggr!!

"Everyone have weapons ... but those who have gutz to use with the same power or ahead power enemy... they are very very limited"

Yes well , in modern warfare you also need technologically advance weapons , the technilogical gap cannot exceed 1 generation , and our forces are almost 1.5 generation or almost 2 generation behind in most of the areas ....


Pakistan Air defence 2/10
Pakistan Airforce 5.5/10 (This will be 7/10 with awacs & Thunder & F16 C/D)
Pakistan Army 6/10
Pakistan Navy 3/10 (With new 7 Subs, 4-8 more frigates we can say its 6/10)
Pakistan R&D 2/10
Man Power 10/10

In ww2 Turkish had large man power buy their weapons were older and they lacked airforce , size means nothing as much as the technology used in your weapons

Also in past Turkish lost their entire Navy , to British just becasue I believe British ships were faster - they could outrun turkish sea vessels and had longer rane for fire power

In 1971 we also had balls just no airplane fighters in East Pakistan and did not had ships in Bangladesh

Bravery is one thing but you also need advance weapons to fight modern day wars

 

[Nima]

Yes well , in modern warfare you also need technologically advance weapons , the technilogical gap cannot exceed 1 generation , and our forces are almost 1.5 generation or almost 2 generation behind in most of the areas ....


Pakistan Air defence 2/10
Pakistan Airforce 6.5/10 (This will be 8/10 with awacs & Thunder & F16)
Pakistan Army 6/10
Pakistan Navy 3/10
Pakistan R&D 2/10

bs
look @ AFG

 

[Barrett]

Saudis have a threat perception that includes Iran and Israel. They equip their forces accordingly.

Spot on

Perception, which has nothing to do with reality.

 

[Nima]

I find smtg hilarious
we Iranians and arabs ourselves are saying that we are each others enemies and here you guys are desperately trying to prove that we are not!!!!!!!