Saudia Arabia backing Raheel Shareef against Imran khan

[Baby Leone]

seriously?

 

[alibaz]

The Saudis are definitely behaving erratically. They don’t like a leader that has a soft spot for Turkey and Iran. There is also no doubt that Raheel Sharif is their man.

I believe they have gone insane and lost ability to think logically. They must understand that we have a very soft spot for them and would like to have equally soft spots for Iran and Turkey. As far as Raheel Sharif is concerned, he is a thoroughbred soldier, therefore, can't be their man.

 

[Microsoft]

Our deicison was to get 6b$ urgently from the arabs along with 3b$ of deferred oil payment to avoid defualt ..people laugh out defualt but look around to zimbabwe and argentina to see what default means
At minimum the exchange rate would have hit 200rs and inflammation 30-40%(vs 10% now)

I cant beleive how most of pakistanis can make a straight face comparing this govt or any govt(including PPPP) with how PMLN destroyed the government and economy ..

Ok but there are several places Pakistan has loans from which of them blackmailed PM?

 

[Jungibaaz]

It's becoming funny to see the level of confusion the nation is suffering from on a number of different matters. Everyone's confused except those in the loop. This is what happens when a system is as opaque and 'diverse' as ours.

 

[ziaulislam]

Ok but there are several places Pakistan has loans from which of them blackmailed PM?

What places?
NOONE WAS GOING TO GIVE YOU MONEY WHEN YOU WERE ABOUT TO DEFUALT.

Even IMF was hesitating whose JOB is to help country avoid defualt

Look at lebanon ..pakistani are pretty lucky..

I sometime wish he should have left the country to defualt so pakistanis can see what they have done..now they are going to relect the same people again..

A true defualt would have caused so much destruction that people would have been jolted enough to burn the jatri umrah and bilawal house..ofcourse bilawal would have been in dubai by that time..

Ans india would have check mates us by quickly moving in to take kashmir during all this choas


but alas he begged and saved their ***..

Pretty ungrateful son of *** we are..

 

[ziaulislam]

Lebanan case is fascinating as it is ideal case study for pakistan

Three different parties shared power and corruption and WERE loved by the people despite this people said "khata hey tu lagata be hey" when hirari son was on yatch with russians..
Some said "shaheed benazir ka beyta" when they say hirari(father assinated ) some said he has great ties with arabs(who did bailed them out several times.

Every one was happy even though the country was sinking ...people were rich enough to hire domestic workers but country was sinking ..no body cared as long as jiyalas and matwalas were happy ans currency was propped up..just borrow more was the call of the day..

Untill everything collapsed..what did the people on power did..just took their yatch, girls and money and reisgned..i mean who cares..

 

[ziaulislam]

I will say it again...PPPP managed the economy FAR FAR better then PMLN..
I havr been saying this since 2017..

I would take the corruption of PPPP any day over the defualt/overspending of PMLN

 

[Patriot forever]

It's becoming funny to see the level of confusion the nation is suffering from on a number of different matters. Everyone's confused except those in the loop. This is what happens when a system is as opaque and 'diverse' as ours.

Sometimes media is used by political parties who want to create uncertainty , furthering their agenda. First media is paid to make the false perception than opposition starts with it's planned rhetoric.

As PM mentioned media was used just before his visit to China to create misunderstanding.

 

[Enigma SIG]

With the GCC firmly licking Israel's boots: UAE welcoming Israel and Saudi's giving flyover permission, it wouldn't be far fetched to think that Mossad has already penetrated the GCC top tier and they'd be willing to do anything to defang Pakistan at this point.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Sometimes media is used by political parties who want to create uncertainty , furthering their agenda. First media is paid to make the false perception than opposition starts with it's planned rhetoric.

As PM mentioned media was used just before his visit to China to create misunderstanding.

Disagree, they are pressured to toe the line, but they don’t. All these conspiracies about funded media are unfounded and used to deflect without counter-argument.

 

[Patriot forever]

Disagree, they are pressured to toe the line, but they don’t. All these conspiracies about funded media are unfounded and used to deflect without counter-argument.

I agree to disagree with you. Every one who watches TV knows which anchor follows which political party's agenda. We all know when a media campaign is launched by whom and for what reason by now.

 

[Jungibaaz]

I agree to disagree with you. Every one who watches TV knows which anchor follows which political party's agenda. We all know when a media campaign is launched by whom and for what reason by now.

I agree about the political parties and allegiances but that's about it. I don't take any accusations of foreign funded media or fifth columnists seriously or without evidence, examples of this are usually the establishment fighting against people who are too truthful for their liking.

 

[Patriot forever]

I agree about the political parties and allegiances but that's about it. I don't take any accusations of foreign funded media or fifth columnists seriously or without evidence, examples of this are usually the establishment fighting against people who are too truthful for their liking.

I was talking about the political influence and manipulation and fake news is a common occurence, media is the most corrupt industry of all.
If you consider PTM or BLA or their media as truthful, or the likes of Gul Bukhari, Hussain Huqqani as gospel. I can not agree with you. Maybe for some political affiliation comes above state ( by state I do not mean army).

 

[Jungibaaz]

I was talking about the political influence and manipulation and fake news is a common occurence, media is the most corrupt industry of all.
If you consider PTM or BLA or their media as truthful, or the likes of Gul Bukhari, Hussain Huqqani as gospel. I can not agree with you. Maybe for some political affiliation comes above state ( by state I do not mean army).

The examples you quoted are extreme, either they're out and out anti-state elements or they've all had their integrity compromised. Are these the only types you'd consider as fake, manipulated etc? What about Jang group, Geo, Dawn, Hamid Mir, Talat Hussain types? Anti-establishment and critics of the army, they're the ones most often accused of being anti-state fifth columnists, nobody accuses the likes of BLA because a) they're not media, b) it's obvious that they're a militant group hence merely accusing makes no sense when they themselves are openly against the state.

 

[Patriot forever]

The examples you quoted are extreme, either they're out and out anti-state elements or they've all had their integrity compromised. Are these the only types you'd consider as fake, manipulated etc? What about Jang group, Geo, Dawn, Hamid Mir, Talat Hussain types? Anti-establishment and critics of the army, they're the ones most often accused of being anti-state fifth columnists, nobody accuses the likes of BLA because a) they're not media, b) it's obvious that they're a militant group hence merely accusing makes no sense when they themselves are openly against the state.

The examples you quoted are of extreme political bias, they will compromise the integrity of state on behest of political loyalty. Much like Bangladesh army vis a vis Sheikh Hasina. Some family dynasties have misunderstood themselves as Royal family instead of political parties and use their minions to that end. Dawn leaks ???
Hamid Mir is a different ball game people suffer from short term memory and forget how he and his channel was hell bent on proving Ajmal Kasab as Pakistani or constant promotion of BLA / Missing persons families as victims, when they are safely sitting under the patronage of their sponsors.