Saudi with a golden heart life spends savings on cancer-hit worker

[Argus Panoptes]

@Argus Panoptes

Illegal workers in KSA are usually who have overstayed their Aqama. No big deal here.

Yes Sir I know that. But to call a person "great" or "honorable" who breaks the law and hires an illegal work for seven year? No. What he saved by exploiting the worker is what he is spending on health care now. God works in mysterious ways.

 

[al-Hasani]

This village lies between Makkah and Jeddah not far from the Jeddah-Makkah highway on the direction of Jeddah towards the west. There is some farming land and production of dates but many people life off the hajj and tourism, hotels, restaurants etc. I have been to that village 2 times or so a few years back. Very nice place and beautiful nature.

 

[HAIDER]

Unfortunately we have very few people like him . Wish all Muslim take human life so serious.

 

[Kloitra]

If breaking the law helps both parties and does not create problems for either and both are mutually satisfied with the situation then I don't see your problem.

I agree with rest of your post, bar this point.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

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If breaking the law helps both parties and does not create problems for either and both are mutually satisfied with the situation then I don't see your problem.

Besides you don't know the details of this case nor do anyone here.

The point is that this is a very good deed and instead of focusing on that you are talking about breaking the law.

Because breaking the law IS the huge and basic problem with this story. Precisely. Otherwise why even have laws?

 

[al-Hasani]

I agree with rest of your post, bar this point.

I mean of course it would be the best for both parties if the visa was renewed but for whatever reasons that we are unaware of it was not. Since both parties were mutually in agreement, nobody was forced or misused then in this case, in my humble opinion, it is not a thing to go berserk over in the overall context of this news. All I am trying to say. If I was in his situation then I would never hire a illegal worker due to all the problems it could create for both parties.

Sometimes some laws are not good and breaking them shows that they do not work in reality and thus need to be changed. There is written law and then there is the actual law. Anyway I do agree with the current laws I am just saying that there are some situations where breaking a law is not a big crime such as this one if what I wrote has taken place.

 

[Lone]

Faith in humanity restored. workers in SA, literally keep Bangladeshi economy alive.

 

[United]

In 2007, in response to Cyclone Sidr in Bangladesh, which killed more than 3,000 people and left millions homeless, Saudi Arabia gave Bangladesh $158 million for humanitarian purposes, compared to $20 million from the United States and less from the United Kingdom (Smith 2010). Following the Haiti earthquake in 2010, the Saudi Kingdom made $50 million available to the Emergency Response Fund, a pooled funding mechanism set up by the United Nations. Saudi pledges for the ongoing response to the f loods that ravaged huge swathes of Pakistan in 2010 amount to $220 million - surpassing the pledges of all European donors taken together ($209 million) (Saudi Ministry of Interior 2010 and Smith 2010). In 2008, Saudi Arabia provided $500 million in cash to the World Food Program, the largest contribution in the Program’s history.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

He hired an illegal worker? Why?

First of all, we shouldn't call human beings illegal workers, those are called undocumented Expats. If the Gov't knew about such individuals, the State will go after those Saudis who break our rules.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

First of all, we shouldn't call human beings illegal workers, those are called undocumented Expats. If the Gov't knew about such individuals, the State will go after those Saudis who break our rules.

A worker is a person who works. There is dignity in work and I have no problem with that.

To work without proper documents is against the law and that is why it is called ILLEGAL. The Saudi who hired him broke his own government's laws regarding hiring of workers. So he hired a worker illegally. That makes the worker an illegal worker.

Sorry, but I still find nothing to commendable or exemplary in what this guy did. He should be punished for breaking the law. The laws are made by the Saudi government for good reasons and should be upheld by the citizenry.

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

A worker is a person who works. There is dignity in work and I have no problem with that.

To work without proper documents is against the law and that is why it is called ILLEGAL. The Saudi who hired him broke his own government's laws regarding hiring of workers. So he hired a worker illegally. That makes the worker an illegal worker.

Sorry, but I still find nothing to commendable or exemplary in what this guy did. He should be punished for breaking the law. The laws are made by the Saudi government for good reasons and should be upheld by the citizenry.

Both of them violated the law. And we don't expect people to hail and praise the Saudis for who they are, actions speak louder then words.

 

[Argus Panoptes]

Both of them violated the law. And we don't expect people to hail and praise the Saudis for who they are, actions speak louder then words.

Exactly. I find it hard to commend people who break the law.

 

[xyxmt]

So he was sleeping for the last SEVEN years and waited for only this amnesty? Or because his chances of being caught were higher now?

Had he been legal, his medical costs would not be such a huge issue.

why are you nit picking
maybe he hired him because he was illegal and not getting any job
the guy did good for a fellow human and thats how it should be looked at

 

[Yzd Khalifa]

Exactly. I find it hard to commend people who break the law.

If an individual violated the laws in KSA, it doesn't mean that everybody violated the laws, what is the point of drafting the laws?

 

[Kloitra]

I mean of course it would be the best for both parties if the visa was renewed but for whatever reasons that we are unaware of it was not. Since both parties were mutually in agreement, nobody was forced or misused then in this case, in my humble opinion, it is not a thing to go berserk over in the overall context of this news. All I am trying to say. If I was in his situation then I would never hire a illegal worker due to all the problems it could create for both parties.

Sometimes some laws are not good and breaking them shows that they do not work in reality and thus need to be changed. There is written law and then there is the actual law. Anyway I do agree with the current laws I am just saying that there are some situations where breaking a law is not a big crime such as this one if what I wrote has taken place.

I appreciate what the employer did for his employee. But this and that are two different things. Unless the law is oppressive or explicitly wrong, breaking them is wrong. All of us commend what he did for a humanitarian cause. It is exemplary, in the sense we don't hear such news often.

But lets not get emotional. Call spade a spade, he broke law. Unless you find a fault with the law itself (there is none, in my view), he is a criminal.

So it all boils down to: This guy committed a crime, as well as he did a great charity. And I think his crime is absolvable, while his charity worth putting up as an example.

If an individual violated the laws in KSA, it doesn't mean that everybody violated the laws, what is the point of drafting the laws?

I think he is not pointing at entire KSA but person in question. We have a tendency to go at extremes, either to demonize or put on high pedestal. He is just pointing that the whole situation would not have arisen had the law was not broken in first place.