Saudi Prince Mohammad optimistic about F-35 deal

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saudi arabia militery is joke so they have best eqiupment but quleity of people lol


usa can atack them if they will betray them

They think they have the best weapons but the capability to use those weapons at their full potential by themselves is just not there!

They will never be able to threaten the U.S. because they wouldn't be able to maintain their military without them! Plus after what happened with Iran in 1979 I bet the U.S. has at the least GPS embedded & hidden in the Air Frame & at the worst self destruct explosives imbedded in the airframe of all Saudi Fighters without them knowing it! So they know exactly where every F-15 is at all times with the capability to take them all out with a push of a button!

And Saudi Arabia's lack of ingenuity on the battlefield is quite evident to all!


As for the F-35 since Israel was involved in the development of the F-35 I think their insistence on using many of their own weapon system and computer hardware and software on the aircraft says a lot about what the Israeli's think about the current package on the F-35's plus more importantly Israel doesn't have to rely on anyone to put weapons on and build weapons around it's own F-35's which allows Israel to put weapons on the Aircraft at the fraction of what it would cost to buy them from the U.S. and if your forced to buy an Air Force that's how you do it!

 

[dani191]

They think they have the best weapons but the capability to use those weapons at their full potential by themselves is just not there!

They will never be able to threaten the U.S. because they wouldn't be able to maintain their military without them! Plus after what happened with Iran in 1979 I bet the U.S. has at the least GPS embedded & hidden in the Air Frame & at the worst self destruct explosives imbedded in the airframe of all Saudi Fighters without them knowing it! So they know exactly where every F-15 is at all times with the capability to take them all out with a push of a button!

And Saudi Arabia's lack of ingenuity on the battlefield is quite evident to all!


As for the F-35 since Israel was involved in the development of the F-35 I think their insistence on using many of their own weapon system and computer hardware and software on the aircraft says a lot about what the Israeli's think about the current package on the F-35's plus more importantly Israel doesn't have to rely on anyone to put weapons on and build weapons around it's own F-35's which allows Israel to put weapons on the Aircraft at the fraction of what it would cost o buy them from the U.S. and if your forced to buy an Air Force that's how you do it!

israel was envoled in the helmet elbit of america and rockwell collins and now elbit is making the cokpit they can take it with out the helmet

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Your delusional! US is in full control of Saudi Aircraft maintenance requirements! They only allow simple maintenance to be conducted by the Saudi's! That's why every Fighter Purchase is sold with a maintenance package and every time the Aircraft needs overhaul they are shipped out to the U.S.
There is also an American Maintenance crew working under a Saudi Name but all the main workers & professionals are Americans!

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The ONLY country on that list that's spending 10% of it's GDP on weapons and yet can't build
It's own Warships, It's own Tanks, It's own APC, Any missiles of it's own, any military Aircraft, or Helicopter of it's own, Any type of precision guided weapon of it's own, any radar, any optical sensors, communication devices,..... is Saudi Arabia!

And the Saudi Military is still weaker militarily than all the countries on that list! Their Navy is a JOKE and they are the ONLY country on that list without a Submarine. Their Ground Forces are by majority reliant on a constant foreign supply & as for their Air Force not only are they unable to maintain their Air Force fleet but they are not even allowed to do so!

And after years of bombing Yamen the Saudi's still can't stop Missiles from being fired at them from one of the poorest countries in the world.

Increasing military spending is not a bad thing AS LONG AS the vast majority of the spending goes towards producing and developing your own weapons!

The last F-15 purchase cost Saudi Arabia ~$250 Million USD per Aircraft that includes (Aircraft, spare parts, a few add on's, limited number of weapons, training equipment & 2 years of maintenance)
Now will that Saudi F-15 in it's entire life span be able to even take out 250 targets? Not likely! That's $1 Million USD per target just in the 1st 2 years of the aircrafts lifespan not including fuel and other simple maintenance cost!
And if that's what they paid for an F-15 got to wonder how much they'll be asking for F-35's

I agree, they're weaker at this time. There is a reason why they're spending that much on their defense. With young crown prince, things have started to change. You'll notice the affects after a decade. Arabs are by far more gifted than any other nation in the world. You may take it as a joke but you'll see for yourself after 2 or 3 decades.

The crown prince is left with no other options. Either lift the country's economy, strengthen military or be like Gaddafi. They're working very hard to purchase high end equipment and then try to develop indigenous military equipment. This is what they're after. Will they be successful or not, only time will determine that.

usa can atack them if they will betray them

For how long you'll keep on looking at USA to attack countries you're afraid of? lol
Time is changing, USA's technological gap has reduced by far. China and Russia are almost there to take over USA technologically. Soon, they'll be producing much more advanced jets, fighters, ships, submarines etc. USA is gone. It belongs to past now.

saudi arabia militery is joke so they have best eqiupment but quleity of people lol

That same military will take you out of the world's map. Prophecy says it, I'm saying it and things are changing accordingly. I'm 100% sure, Israel will be destroyed by Arabs. They'll take hold of your country and throw you out like you threw Palestinians. History would repeat itself the only difference would be, you'll be at receiving end this time. Be prepared.

 

[EpiiC]

I agree, they're weaker at this time. There is a reason why they're spending that much on their defense. With young crown prince, things have started to change. You'll notice the affects after a decade. Arabs are by far more gifted than any other nation in the world. You may take it as a joke but you'll see for yourself after 2 or 3 decades.

The crown prince is left with no other options. Either lift the country's economy, strengthen military or be like Gaddafi. They're working very hard to purchase high end equipment and then try to develop indigenous military equipment. This is what they're after. Will they be successful or not, only time will determine that.



For how long you'll keep on looking at USA to attack countries you're afraid of? lol
Time is changing, USA's technological gap has reduced by far. China and Russia are almost there to take over USA technologically. Soon, they'll be producing much more advanced jets, fighters, ships, submarines etc. USA is gone. It belongs to past now.


That same military will take you out of the world's map. Prophecy says it, I'm saying it and things are changing accordingly. I'm 100% sure, Israel will be destroyed by Arabs. They'll take hold of your country and throw you out like you threw Palestinians. History would repeat itself the only difference would be, you'll be at receiving end this time. Be prepared.

Your last 2 paragraphs regarding Russia and China overtaking US is not true, they are significantly poorer and behind in technology... in all fields...I don't think KSA can have a strong economy, their addiction to oil isn't going to dwindle so easily. They will continue to have a fragile economy for many decades to come.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

israel was envoled in the helmet elbit of america and rockwell collins and now elbit is making the cokpit they can take it with out the helmet

Israel wasn't evolved in any helmet. Israel was conceived in the womb of USA. Its still in the womb of USA. When USA delivers it out of its pu$$y, Arabs will eat the infant Israel immediately.

 

[EpiiC]

Israel wasn't evolved in any helmet. Israel was conceived in the womb of USA. Its still in the womb of USA. When USA delivers it out of its pu$$y, Arabs will eat the infant Israel immediately.

Israel too powerful for Arabs dude.... you like the Arabs haven't still learnt the lesson yet...

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Your last 2 paragraphs regarding Russia and China overtaking US is not true, they are significantly poorer and behind in technology... in all fields...I don't think KSA can have a strong economy, their addiction to oil isn't going to dwindle so easily. They will continue to have a fragile economy for many decades to come.

Russia's economy is weak because of sanctions. you got to check the economy of China again. Its not even at its 100% yet. They're at 60% now, when that 40% fills in, I'll ask you then. Gap has reduced between USA and China/Russia pertaining to technology. It could be your opinion, mine is different and based on facts I see fit to base my analysis on.

Israel too powerful for Arabs dude.... you like the Arabs haven't still learnt the lesson yet...

Which lesson you're referring to? Can you please explain?

 

[EpiiC]

Russia's economy is weak because of sanctions. you got to check the economy of China again. Its not even at its 100% yet. They're at 60% now, when that 40% fills in, I'll ask you then. Gap has reduced between USA and China/Russia pertaining to technology. It could be your opinion, mine is different and based on facts I see fit to base my analysis on.

Russia is what half of USA GDP? China needs to triple its economy to perhaps come close to US... God knows how long Russia and China will come up with a aircraft this is better than F-35 by that time US will have 6 Gen...

Russia's economy is weak because of sanctions. you got to check the economy of China again. Its not even at its 100% yet. They're at 60% now, when that 40% fills in, I'll ask you then. Gap has reduced between USA and China/Russia pertaining to technology. It could be your opinion, mine is different and based on facts I see fit to base my analysis on.


Which lesson you're referring to? Can you please explain?

That Arabs cannot defeat Israel, they have had many wars same out come every time... now Israel has nukes it doesn't need USA to give it assistance nukes do the job.

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

Russia is what half of USA GDP? China needs to triple its economy to perhaps come close to US... God knows how long Russia and China will come up with a aircraft this is better than F-35 by that time US will have 6 Gen...

And China/Russia would still be manufacturing 5th Gen jets, correct? Grow up, USA hegemony is over. Syria is a living example. USA has no influence in Syria now. They're screwed by Russians. What benefit their economy brought on the table? They'll collapse.

 

[dani191]

They think they have the best weapons but the capability to use those weapons at their full potential by themselves is just not there!

They will never be able to threaten the U.S. because they wouldn't be able to maintain their military without them! Plus after what happened with Iran in 1979 I bet the U.S. has at the least GPS embedded & hidden in the Air Frame & at the worst self destruct explosives imbedded in the airframe of all Saudi Fighters without them knowing it! So they know exactly where every F-15 is at all times with the capability to take them all out with a push of a button!

And Saudi Arabia's lack of ingenuity on the battlefield is quite evident to all!


As for the F-35 since Israel was involved in the development of the F-35 I think their insistence on using many of their own weapon system and computer hardware and software on the aircraft says a lot about what the Israeli's think about the current package on the F-35's plus more importantly Israel doesn't have to rely on anyone to put weapons on and build weapons around it's own F-35's which allows Israel to put weapons on the Aircraft at the fraction of what it would cost to buy them from the U.S. and if your forced to buy an Air Force that's how you do it!

http://elbitsystems.com/product/joint-strike-fighter-jsf-f-35-lightning-ii/

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

That Arabs cannot defeat Israel, they have had many wars same out come every time... now Israel has nukes it doesn't need USA to give it assistance nukes do the job.

Wars that were conducted some 60 - 70 years ago? You based your argument on that? False flagger, if Israel nukes are used against Saudis do you think Pakistan has its nukes only to shove up in India's ***? You're wrong then. We haven't tested the intercontinental, doesn't mean we don't have it. False flagger be a man use your own country's flag.

 

[dani191]

And China/Russia would still be manufacturing 5th Gen jets, correct? Grow up, USA hegemony is over. Syria is a living example. USA has no influence in Syria now. They're screwed by Russians. What benefit their economy brought on the table? They'll collapse.

russia oil depended economy is going to collpase more chanse it will be usa va china

Wars that were conducted some 60 - 70 years ago? You based your argument on that? False flagger, if Israel nukes are used against Saudis do you think Pakistan has its nukes only to shove up in India's ***? You're wrong then. We haven't tested the intercontinental, doesn't mean we don't have it. False flagger be a man use your own country's flag.

we have slcm second strike if you try we can elimnate you dont forget arrow 3 arrow 2 david sling

Russia's economy is weak because of sanctions. you got to check the economy of China again. Its not even at its 100% yet. They're at 60% now, when that 40% fills in, I'll ask you then. Gap has reduced between USA and China/Russia pertaining to technology. It could be your opinion, mine is different and based on facts I see fit to base my analysis on.


Which lesson you're referring to? Can you please explain?

russia economy is weak because they have only oil and defecne industry thats the reason smart people leaving russia to usa

 

[EpiiC]

Wars that were conducted some 60 - 70 years ago? You based your argument on that? False flagger, if Israel nukes are used against Saudis do you think Pakistan has its nukes only to shove up in India's ***? You're wrong then. We haven't tested the intercontinental, doesn't mean we don't have it. False flagger be a man use your own country's flag.

Your argument holds no weight all the wars and intifads ineffective... you can't win this argument so your try to back out of it by saying false flagger...

Wars that were conducted some 60 - 70 years ago? You based your argument on that? False flagger, if Israel nukes are used against Saudis do you think Pakistan has its nukes only to shove up in India's ***? You're wrong then. We haven't tested the intercontinental, doesn't mean we don't have it. False flagger be a man use your own country's flag.

They have much better tech than Arabs man, your just supporting Arabs because your religion from their. Also we don't have ICBM's, if we did where did we get the money from? We Pakistan ain't in a position to have a proper 2nd deterrent so I don't know where you got the ICBM news from? Source?

 

[dani191]

Your argument holds no weight all the wars and intifads ineffective... you can't win this argument so your try to back out of it by saying false flagger...

israel can put veto on the helmet to saudi arabia they can find another one

Your argument holds no weight all the wars and intifads ineffective... you can't win this argument so your try to back out of it by saying false flagger...


They have much better tech than Arabs man, your just supporting Arabs because your religion from their. Also we don't have ICBM's, if we did where did we get the money from? We Pakistan ain't in a position to have a proper 2nd deterrent so I don't know where you got the ICBM news from? Source?

we have some tech even usa dont have alot of thing are in secret like our missles capbilty jericho 3 no developing 4 jen nobdy know what they can do

 

[Saif-ud-Din Qutuz]

we have slcm second strike if you try we can elimnate you dont forget arrow 3 arrow 2 david sling

In your dreams. When we decide to annihilate you, nothing will save you from that. The day you point nukes towards Saudi Arabia, Billions of muslims will eat Israel and USA. China and Russia would love to support Muslims at that time.

we have some tech even usa dont have alot of thing are in secret like our missles capbilty jericho 3 no developing 4 jen nobdy know what they can do

Hahaha! All of your equipment is based on USA's technology. You can't produce anything completely of your own. That's why USA calls you its SON. Dad can slap the son anytime. Dad can throw the son out of home anytime. Be a good son else USA will throw you out

Your argument holds no weight all the wars and intifads ineffective... you can't win this argument so your try to back out of it by saying false flagger...


They have much better tech than Arabs man, your just supporting Arabs because your religion from their. Also we don't have ICBM's, if we did where did we get the money from? We Pakistan ain't in a position to have a proper 2nd deterrent so I don't know where you got the ICBM news from? Source?

Your whole post proves you're not a Pakistani. If you were, you would know what I'm talking about. Keep helping Dani. It looks Dani is using another profile to help him hahaha