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Prince Alwaleed bin Talal insulted at only being No 26 on Forbes rich list

For most people, even featuring in the Forbes list of the world's billionaires would be cause for celebration, but for Prince Alwaleed bin Talal of Saudi Arabia, appearing at number 26 with $20bn (£15bn) was an insult.

The prince, one of the most influential businessmen in the Middle East, insists the list undervalues him by $9.6bn. He has vowed to sever all ties with the group's reporters and accused them of damaging US-Saudi relations.

In response, the editor of the influential list has written a stinging rebuke saying the prince considers a top-10 ranking one of his priorities, systematically exaggerates his wealth and spends more time and effort than any other businessman on attempts to boost his ranking – even more time and effort than Donald Trump.

Forbes's estimate of Alwaleed's wealth at $20bn puts him behind Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin. But Alwaleed, a nephew of the Saudi king whose investments are run by his Kingdom Holding Company, estimates his own wealth at $29.6bn (£19.5bn), which would catapult him into the top 10 of the magazine's richest people on the planet, just behind 90-year-old French cosmetics heiress Liliane Bettencourt.

Forbes said the prince's camp wrote four letters in the build-up to the list's publication in an effort to secure a favourable valuation. In one letter his chief financial officer, Shadi Sanbar, said an undervaluation "strikes in the face of improving Saudi-American bilateral relations and co-operation. Forbes is putting down the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and that is a slap in the face of modernity and progress."

But Forbes hit back, with billionaire list editor Kerry Dolan explaining it no longer considers the share price of Alwaleed's Saudi-listed Kingdom Holdings an accurate reflection of its value.

She points out that the share price would soar by up to 136% in the weeks before Forbes locked in the valuation to calculate its rankings in the past three years.

Dolan wrote: "The value that the prince puts on his holdings at times feels like an alternate reality, including his publicly trading Kingdom Holdings, which rises and falls based on factors that, coincidentally, seem more tied to the Forbes billionaires list than fundamentals."

In a scathing character assassination, the writer describes the prince as a vainglorious businessman in the "absurdly opulent" surroundings of his marble-clad palaces filled with portraits of himself. "If he needs to go on a business trip, he has his own 747, à la Air Force One, except unlike the president, his plane has a throne."

During a trip to Riyadh in 2008, the article said, he showed off his wealth, including what he claimed was a $700m haul of jewels, and sent the magazine's US offices mocked up copies of Vanity Fair, Time 100 and Forbes magazine itself with his face adorning the front covers, according to Dolan.

"Of the 1,426 billionaires on our list, not one – not even the vainglorious Donald Trump – goes to greater measure to try to affect his or her ranking.

"In 2006 when Forbes estimated that the prince was actually worth $7bn less than he said he was, he called me at home the day after the list was released, sounding nearly in tears."

Shares in Kingdom Holdings, his vehicle for investments in Citigroup, Newscorp and Apple, among others, would rise in the 10 weeks before the Forbes list was finalised.

In 2010 its shares rose 57%, despite shares in Citigroup falling 20% in the same period. In 2011 the same happened, with a 31% rise in Kingdom's shares, and in 2012 they jumped 136%.

A former Alwaleed executive told Forbes that market manipulation in Saudi Arabia was rife. The magazine quoted the executive as saying: "This is the national sport … There are no casinos. It's the gambling site of the Saudis."

The prince, who enjoys the nickname "the Buffett of Arabia" after shrewd investments in eBay and Apple, called the allegations "completely unsupported and biased".

A statement added: "The application of differing standards of proof for different individuals and organizations results in an arbitrary and confusing set of standards that seems demonstrably biased against the Middle East."

Sanbar, chief financial officer of Kingdom Holding, said: "We have worked very openly with the Forbes team over the years and have on multiple occasions pointed out problems with their methodology that need correction.

"However, after several years of our efforts to correct mistakes falling on deaf ears, we have decided that Forbes has no intention of improving the accuracy of their valuation of our holdings and we have made the decision to move on."

He said they would now focus on working with Bloomberg Billionaires index, a Forbes rival launched last year, which estimates the prince's wealth at $28bn, ranking him not in the top 10, but the world's 16th wealthiest person.

A princely sum

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal boasts that Forbes has referred to him twice as "one of the world's most intelligent and creative investors". On his website he claims to have met more than 250 heads of state and world leaders and says: "As a man of significant wealth and influence, Prince Alwaleed is humbled when people look to him for advice and guidance on issues such as religion, global peace and how society should adapt to meet the challenges of the 21st century."

The Saudi prince, 57, owns 95% of the Kingdom Holding Company, which trades on the Saudi stock exchange. As well as shares in companies such as News Corp and Citibank it holds stakes in a string of luxury hotels including the Savoy in London, the George V in Paris and the Fairmont Raffles.

The company started investing in Apple in 1997, the year Steve Jobs returned to the helm of the company he founded. It recently bought an estimated 3% of Twitter for $300m (£230m) and has stakes in AOL and Motorola.

Not all his investments have been a great success. In 1997 he bought a stake in TWA, which declared chapter 11 bankruptcy in 2001 and merged with American Airlines. Another notable failure was Kodak, which went bust last year, overwhelmed by the digital photography revolution.

He invested in Euro Disney in 1994, and in 1995 helped complete Canary Wharf by putting in cash when the owner was in receivership. The group holds a third of Jeddah Economic, which owns the project to build the 1,000-metre, $1.2bn Kingdom Tower in Jeddah.

The prince also holds an 80% stake in Rotana, one of the Middle East's biggest media companies.

His 200 cars include a Rolls-Royce Phantom and Lamborghinis and Ferraris. His fleet of private jets includes a Boeing 747, an Airbus 321 and a Hawker Siddeley 125.

According to Forbes he was the first individual to buy an Airbus A380 double decker plane and was supposed to take delivery of it this spring, but Kingdom Holding's chief financial officer told the magazine that the plane has been sold.

Prince Alwaleed bin Talal insulted at only being No 26 on Forbes rich list | Business | The Guardian

Saudi billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal has attacked the Forbes Billionaires List as flawed and biased against Middle Eastern businesses and asked for his name to be removed.

Must be hurtful to his ego, knowing that not everything can be bought with money.
 
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So he owns $30 bilion and feels humiliated....


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its all the money of the arab people because it is a result of his family digging a hole and taking the honey out.
 
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well.. all the wealth belongs to arab people and not jsut 1 huge family


What do you mean all the wealth belongs to arab. The guy has worked his ar$$ off so hard reached where he is today, so please take your hands off his pocket. You don't know him you don't know his history you don't know even what your talking about so you better shut it. Also don't assign yourself as a lawyer on behalf of ''arab'' and find something else poke your nose in.
 
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What do you mean all the wealth belongs to arab. The guy has worked his ar$$ off so hard reached where he is today, so please take your hands off his pocket. You don't know him you don't know his history you don't know even what your talking about so you better shut it. Also don't assign yourself as a lawyer on behalf of ''arab'' and find something else poke your nose in.

yea it must have been really hard to say .. dad give me a few billions to invest.
 
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Isnt this prince alwaleed 20% stake holder of the entire city bank group?
 
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What do you mean all the wealth belongs to arab. The guy has worked his ar$$ off so hard reached where he is today, so please take your hands off his pocket. You don't know him you don't know his history you don't know even what your talking about so you better shut it. Also don't assign yourself as a lawyer on behalf of ''arab'' and find something else poke your nose in.

I read alot about him and it is true this guy worked harder then other royals to come to this position. Yes he did inherited money from royal treasure given to every prince/princess but he doubled and invested it smartly. By the way this guy has investment in Fox News.:woot:
 
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maybe his ego got hurt. (no offence to saudis).
 
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Prince Alwaleed cuts ties with Forbes over Rich List



By Anil Bhoyrul
Tuesday, 5 March 2013 3:10 PM


Saudi Arabia’s Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, chairman of Kingdom Holding the Arab world's wealthiest individual, has launched a scathing attack on Forbes magazine, accusing the US publication of deliberately underestimating his wealth.

On Tuesday the latest Forbes billionaires list said the prince was worth US$20bn - far less than the US$25.9bn estimate by Arabian Business three months ago.

In a statement his office said: “The private office of His Royal Highness Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud and Kingdom Holding Company announce that they have ended their long-standing relationship with the Forbes Billionaires List. The relationship was severed in a letter from His Royal Highness, Chairman of Kingdom Holding Company, to Mr Steve Forbes the Chairman and Editor-in-Chief of Forbes, requesting that the Prince be removed from the list and informing Forbes that KHC officials would no longer work with the Forbes valuation teams."


The statement cited a number of issues with Forbes, including:

- “A sudden refusal after six years to accept share values as listed by the Tadawul – Saudi Arabia’s fully regulated, 21 century, high-tech stock exchange that services the largest economy in the Middle East and is a member of the World Federation of Exchanges."

- "A completely unsupported and biased allegation based on rumors that stock manipulation “is the national sport” in Saudi Arabia because “there are no casinos.”

- "The application of differing standards of proof for different individuals and organizations resulting in an arbitrary and confusing set of standards that seems demonstrably biased against the Middle East. For example, the valuations of other emerging markets such as the Mexican stock exchange are accepted while those of the Tadawul are not."

- "Unexplained and purely arbitrary discounts applied to holdings not backed up by brokerage statements when pre-IPO investments such as those in Twitter and China’s 360Buy would not appear on any brokerage statement, and after impressing on Forbes that KHC’s investments are covered by confidentiality agreements."

Shadi Sanbar, CFO of Kingdom Holding, said: “We have worked very openly with the Forbes team over the years and have on multiple occasions pointed out problems with their methodology that need correction.

"However, after several years of our efforts to correct mistakes falling on deaf ears, we have decided that Forbes has no intention of improving the accuracy of their valuation of our holdings and we have made the decision to move on. KHC puts a premium on tracking the true value of our investments and it is contrary to both our practice and nature to assist in the publication of financial information we know to be false and inaccurate.”


Arabian Business


The Arab world’s richest people

Rich List 2012


Rich List 2012 | United Arab Emirates | Culture & Society | Arabian Business | Rich list


Bloomberg Billionaires World’s Richest (bloomberg.com)

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^^

Ill-bred…

GCC's 50 richest Indians worth $40.2bn

By Staff writer
Sunday, 10 February 2013 8:42 AM




Abu Dhabi-based businessman Yousuffali MA.


The GCC’s 50 Richest Indians are worth $40.2bn, according to the first ever GCC Indian Rich List published today by Arabian Business.

Landmark Group founder Micky Jagtiani – who once worked as a London cab driver – topped the list with an estimated wealth of $4.5bn. Jagtiani took pole position of food magnate Feroz Allana on $4.3bn, with legendary Dubai-based investor Ragu Kataria third on $2.5bn. The top five was completed with EMKE Group’s Yussuf Ali on $2.2bn, and BR Shetty on $1.9bn.

The list featured a total of ten billionaires, with the top 50 between them worth $40.2bn. The average wealth of the top 50 came in at $804m.

Arabian Business editor Ed Attwood said: “The contribution and success of the Indian community in this region is nothing short of remarkable, and our list fully reflects that. What is fascinating is many people on the list - such as Micky Jagtiani and Yussuf Ali - are self made, starting with absolutely nothing. Their stories are an inspiration to all of us.”

The highest ranked woman on the list was Jumbo Electronics boss Vidya Chhabria, in eighth place with $1.4bn. Propping up the top 50 was Hassan Chougle with $195m.


Arabian Business

50 Richest Indians in the Gulf: infographic

50 Richest Indians in the Gulf: infographic - ArabianBusiness.com
 
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Actually, Forbes was being unfair to him. Usually, billionaires who derive their wealth from stockholdings in companies are measured according to the market value of the shares they hold. By the same measure, his Kingdom Holding stock would be worth around $30 billion today.

But Forbes decided to measure his wealth by counting the underlying assets, which slashed his worth by some 7 billion.
 
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