Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman seeks good relations with Iran

[CrazyZ]

Not going to happen dude.

Probably right... for the whole the region. Smaller regional blocs will emerge, IMO. Regional leaders have to think longer term. I commend MBS for doing this.

 

[T-SaGe]

I think the most important message of the interview was this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1387433475142258693

 

[Philip the Arab]

I think the most important message of the interview was this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1387433475142258693

Meh his country his rules

 

[Azadkashmir]

The Ottoman Arab uprisings took place by Hussein bin Ali Al-Hashimi and his supporters. Hussein was a statesman who was born in Istanbul and received his court education and was later appointed as sheriff of Mecca, by Abdulhamit, the ottoman sultan and caliph. (The Mecca was traditionally ruled by sheriffs, descendants of Hasan bin Ali, the grandson of the beloved Prophet (s.a.v). Ottomans took control of region in 1517, but always respected the sheriffs' autonomy.)

While the Turks were fighting against Russia, British and French for the Islamic caliphate, Sharif Hussein argued that the Turks had betrayed Islam. Then formed an alliance with the British.

Sharif Hussein's idea of revolt became clear after his son Emir Abdullah's talks with British officials in Cairo in Egypt in the first week of February 1914. Sharif Hussein made his first offer to the British on July 2, 1915, and informed by a private letter that if the Arabs south of the line to be drawn from Mersin and Adana to Mosul were allowed to form as an independent government, he would revolt against the Islamic Caliph he was subject. The Sheriff Hussein-British talks finally ended with a mutual agreement on March 10, 1916. In the period until 6 November 1916, Şerif Hüseyin received a payment of 773 thousand Pounds.

After the Franco-British alliance achieve their goals, land promised to Sharif Hussein did not given, and even they declared a Jewish settlement by Balfour Declaration.

Hussein did not accept these mandate states and declared himself the king of all Arabs. He even declared himself Caliph in 1924. His relationship with the British suffered greatly because he did not accept the Treaty of Versailles. Meanwhile, he faced Saudi and Wahhabi attacks supported by the British.

After a while, he was captured in Taif by the Ihvan, supported by the Saudis, and exiled by the British to the island of Cyprus. For a few years laters he moved to Jordan, where his son was king, and died there.

TL;DR No betrayal ends with a happy ending.

tell that to kashogi

 

[T-SaGe]

Meh his country his rules

In his father's country, yes, but what about outside of his country?

 

[Philip the Arab]

In his father's country, yes, but what about outside of his country?

Wasn't that embassy Saudi land? Embassy is the countries soil.

 

[Arian]

Wasn't that embassy Saudi land? Embassy is the countries soil.

But last time I checked, they sawed the guy in pieces and then removed him in luggage out of their embassy. I believe the streets near the Saudi embassy are Turkish territory.

On a side note, I have always doubted that part about whether a country's embassy in a foreign land is their territory. I doubt it's true.

 

[T-SaGe]

Wasn't that embassy Saudi land? Embassy is the countries soil.

Wait, wait... You tried to say MBS ordered that Khashoggi to be chopped and murdered? KSA never accept this at all, and they sentenced many people to death for this case. Because such a murder was committed at the Saudi consulate.

What I mean was about some dissident Saudis and royal members in the diaspora.
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[The SC]

This is why MBS said this..

Iran calls for a political solution in Yemen and Zarif meets with the rebel spokesman in Muscat

https://middle-east-online.com/إيرا...=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1619648790

 

[Dariush the Great]

This is why MBS said this..

Iran calls for a political solution in Yemen and Zarif meets with the rebel spokesman in Muscat

https://middle-east-online.com/إيران-بلسانين،-تؤجج-النزاع-في-اليمن-وتتوسط-للتهدئة?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1619648790

Don't pin too much hope on Zarif. He will be thrown into the trash in a few months and the rest of the Rohani admin will have the same fate.

 

[GumNaam]

then get out of Yemen & stop supporting isis in Syria mister Mbs.

 

[Titanium100]

Don't pin too much hope on Zarif. He will be thrown into the trash in a few months and the rest of the Rohani admin will have the same fate.

Whether Zarif is thrown out or not Saudis doesn't give a flying thing. If the Ayatullah's have agreed to peace term then that is only good for them. Believe me there are many more spoilers on the Mbs side some might even seek to usurp Mbs if he doesn't give them a much broader conflict.

Consider this a lifeline. I personally hope this negotiations collapses I am personally in the camp of these who are the spoilers and that is just my opinion. I believe good comes from chaos and war. This world order has to collapse for a new one to replace it.

I am a firm believer that the region needs a greater conflict and in that matter the world needs a battle to be enforced upon them. Good always rises from the ashes.

Kinda disappointed Iran won't be the eternal boogeyman removing possible future pretexts.. The Arabs need a demon nothing personal but you will have to continue to play the demon role here. Think of it as a cosplay if you like. This is crucial for the arabs.

The Guard has to keep functioning as provocators

 

[Philip the Arab]

Wait, wait... You tried to say MBS ordered that Khashoggi to be chopped and murdered? KSA never accept this at all, and they sentenced many people to death for this case. Because such a murder was committed at the Saudi consulate.

What I mean was about some dissident Saudis and royal members in the diaspora.
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Whether he ordered it or not I could care less, dissidents must be taken care of forcefully. Western standards are not the standards that non Westerners should follow.

 

[Bahram Esfandiari]

Don't pin too much hope on Zarif. He will be thrown into the trash in a few months and the rest of the Rohani admin will have the same fate.

From your lips to God's ears!

 

[Titanium100]

Whether he ordered it or not I could care less, dissidents must be taken care of forcefully. Western standards are not the standards that non Westerners should follow.

I have nothing against him taking out the dissidents whatsoever