Saudi crown prince defends China’s use of internment camps for Uighur Muslims

[royalharris]

China can not change anything about loser Pkk terrorists ,,, over 20 country including the US support loser Pkk terrorists since 1990s but loser Pkk terrorists could not take even 1cm2 of land from Turkey ,,, and never will be
on the other hand We Turks took Jarablus,Azez,Rai,Dabıq,Al Bab and Afrin in Syria



the TURKS created 16 Empires in the last 2500 years and ruled India,Iran,Anatolia,Russians,Egypt,N.Africa,all Middle East and 1/3 of Europe for centuries

after ww1 Turkish,Russian,Austria-German Empires were collapsed ,,, almost all Empires collapsed

in the last 1000 years Turks,Germans,British,French,Russians and Americans created history
now We Turks have no global power
but The Turkish nation has great strategic vision 2023,2053 and 2071 , We Turks will be global power again



$5 billion is nothing for OBOR project ,,,, even Turkey spent over $35 billion for 3,6 million Syrian refuges in Turkey

China should give minimum $50 billion to Turkey
because of without Turkey , OBOR project is nothing in the Trans-Caspian International Transport Route (Middle Corridor) to Italy-Balkans-Europe and in the Middle East and N.Africa

world powers can rip off turkey like pigs again

USA want an independent kurds state
Russia will be happy to keep constandipole
we will balance our interest

 

[Nein]

world powers can rip off turkey like pigs again
USA want an independent kurds state
Russia will be happy to keep constandipole

Cant even spell Constantinople right by the way it is Istanbul since 1930s.

 

[beijingwalker]

world powers can rip off turkey like pigs again
USA want an independent kurds state
Russia will be happy to keep constandipole

They already did, that's why today's Turkey is so tiny, a mini state on the world map.

When Pakistan is in trouble financially and in UN, it's China and Saudis joined hands to work to help, what did Turkey do? Besides their usual cheap lip service.

 

[royalharris]

They already did, that's why today's Turkey is so tiny, a mini state on the world map.

Still not enough
A weak and ungrateful nation，but a born trouble maker with big mouth

 

[dBSPL]

You Turks came to China and took more than 5 billion dollars just during the last 3 months and you keep coming talking about being ungrateful, no one can come close to Turks.

5 milyar para mı lan it .

Turkey's total gross external debt of around 460 billion dollars. In 2018,Approximately 10 billion dollars was realized through government bonds and the remaining part was in credit form. Declining current account deficit and increasing tourism revenues are an advantage. But the main problem was the liquidity problem of the markets. The main use of loans from China is mostly used in small and medium enterprises related incentive programs. Here, China provided credit financing( around 3,6 billion ) within its own terms, nothing donation or grants. These type financing instruments used by Turkey for about 50 to 70 years. But there is no troll cries like " be grateful, be grateful" on it other than the economy-retarded Chinese.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I am sure forcing Muslims to eat pork, drink alcohol and call Xi as God will also be defended by higher,lower and sweeter friends of China

Do something for Kashmiris then come back and talk from the higher ground. Until then, wait your turn.

Islamism

We need to stop using these nonsense loaded words like Islamist or Islamism created by the West.

Islam is the second largest religion in the world and the fastest growing. Tengrism and Animism Paganism is not coming back.

"Abu Huraira reported Allaah's Messenger (sallAllaahu alayhi wa sallam) as saying: The Last Hour would not come until the Muslims fight with the Turks-a people whose faces would be like hammered shields wearing clothes of hair and walking (with shoes) of hair."

The word Turks was not in that hadith. The hadith is referring to the Mongol invasion. Yes, they have flat faces and wore fur clothes and shoes.

also Pakistan is poor and dependent on China against India

You try to go through what Pakistan went through with losing 1 million people and absorbing 14 million refugees at birth, 3 imposed wars against us by India, 1971 split of Bangladesh, Soviet invasion of Afghanistan/Pakistan, US invasion of Afghanistan, proxy warfare during WoT against Pakistan resulting in the deaths of 75,000 while we were led by 3 puppet governments which bankrupted our people.

The Islamic Republic of Pakistan survives and is growing in strength day by day only with the Rahmat of Allah swt. We have recovered Afghanistan from foreigners, dealt severe defeats on foreign backed terrorists, and stood our ground with our Kashmiri brothers despite all the doubts and negative propaganda against us.

We raised ourselves through the sheer force and tenacity of our people, and in sha Allah, we will continue moving forward.

What I understood from my experience gained during those conversations, Majority of Pakistani people like Turkey with deep brotherhood feelings without any doubt but cause of a few reasons, they need chinese help to stand strong against sanctions and regional disputes so they do not want to judge chinese illegal and criminal activities in official mouths not to risk this vital relations. They need to select chinese weapons to counter Western hypocrite policies but What I saw is that Pakistan do not trust Chinese policies and technology too much so they need to diversify their procurements as much as they can so almost all Turkish products are being invited to Pakistan for active trials to compare their performance with chinese equivalents and Almost all Turkish products beat up chinese rivals in Pakistan so Pakistan mostly honour brother Turk’s products many times after extensive field trials. Even if they select a chinese product, they seek Turkish avonics and subsystems to improve its performance so Making pressure Pakistan to voice a strong stance against illegal and criminal chinese activities against Muslim people is not correct way to judge their friendship and brotherhood. Sometimes, when I saw some comments of a few crazy Pakistani members criticizing Turks, I am also being triggered but That is not correct behavior since I certainly sure about the feeling of majority of my Pakistani brothers.

When we Muslims become strong and totally self-sufficient in all fields, then we will speak louder than current against not only china but also usa all together. While we are dependent to the words spreaded from their f@cking mouths, we can never talk about any freedom speeches in any platform. At present, Turkey doesn’t even give a penny to what china talk about Turkey since they have Zero effect on our affairs but we can not say same for Pakistan so Turkish Republic make criminal commies crazy with expressing nice and cool statements while laughing loudly behind the scene. Intimidating the arrogants is the real freedom that I always admire. Be it China and USA or Europe...

Yes brother, we love Turkey with all of our heart and will always strand besides our brothers against all nations of the world. There is no need for this drama on this forum.

Pakistani hearts are like pure gold, we do not even hate our enemies. We are always hoping for peace.

I hope Iranian politicians wake up and join you guys against OBOR.
however that is our dream and wishful thinking.
Sadly, they bought our morality.

I do not think you are Iranian. You must be some American. Your sectarian and divisive rhetoric against fellow Muslims is obvious to all.

The Turkish nation lacks strategic vision

This is one of the reason，ottamon was ripped off like pigs
There is still great possibility turkey will be ripped off again

Some country have great interest with Constantinople

Don't insult our brother Turkey. They fought like lions with Ataturk against all major Western nations and stood like rocks to defend Gallipoli. Turks defeated Greece and its allies to win back Anatolia.

Turkey is one nation which you can never question their bravery. They will surprise you.

Napoleon said, "Give me one army of Turks, and I could conquer the world."

 

[beijingwalker]

The word Turks was not in that hadith. The hadith is referring to the Mongol invasion. Yes, they have flat faces and wore fur clothes and shoes.

That's exactly what the original Turks look like based on our historic drawings and after being driven west by our ancestors those Turks conquered today's Turkey and made the local people believe that they are one of the Turks, genetically Turkish Turks are just local Anatolians.

Yes brother, we love Turkey with all of our heart and will always strand besides our brothers against all nations of the world. There is no need for this drama on this forum.

That's only your personal wish, I'm pretty sure that not every Pakistani would fight for Turkey against all nations in this world, far from it actually.

 

[Jlaw]

Islamic World is so rich and so poor because of Islamic World is under attack by the West led by the US
there are over $200 trillion of oil,gas,thorium,uranium,boron,gold reserves in Muslim Countries
but all reserves were stolen by the West led by the US

If that is the case Turks should focus on dealing with the US, why pick a fight with China? You can't even handle a small country like Israel now you want to antagonize China and add another enemy to the list. That's what they teach you in the Turkish version of Art of War?

 

[cabatli_53]

@beijingwalker @royalharris warning issued for trolling and insulting Turkish Republic...

 

[beijingwalker]

@beijingwalker @royalharris warning issued for trolling and insulting Turkish Republic...

Many Turkish members troll and insulting China and us personally with very dirty and filthy languages, what are you going to do about them? And how I insulted Turkey? Mind to specify?

 

[CAN_TR]

Many Turkish members troll and insulting China and us personally with very dirty and filthy languages, what are you going to do about them? And how I insulted Turkey? Mind to specify?

You are warned because of trolling and your buddy royalharris because of insulting.

 

[royalharris]

You are warned because of trolling and your buddy royalharris because of insulting.

This is what you can do after insulting other nations？
Cowards

 

[CAN_TR]

This is what you can do after insulting other nations？
Cowards

Who insulted your country here?
I checked all comments of the Turkish members and everyone was on the respect line, you are the one who barked loud, stop playing the poor victim.

You insulted Turkey twice...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...or-uighur-muslims.603649/page-5#post-11196991

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saud...or-uighur-muslims.603649/page-6#post-11197048

 

[royalharris]

Who insulted your country here?
I checked all comments of the Turkish members and everyone was on the respect line, you are the one who barked loud, stop playing the poor victim.

You insulted Turkey twice...
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saudi-crown-prince-defends-chinas-use-of-internment-camps-for-uighur-muslim

You seems someone important in this forum, maybe as moderator
if so, open the eyes, don't be blindness of content selectivly

Without turkish trouble maker and insulting， i would not waste my time on turks

In this forum， turks acts like gods，insult everyone they want，even insult paks
Try very hard to sabotage china pak relationship， just to make paks under control to use paks

 

[beijingwalker]

You are warned because of trolling and your buddy royalharris because of insulting.

It's your Turkish members trolling about Xinjiang, Why should I care about Turkey anyway if not repeatedly being attacked over our Xinjiang province by you Turks.