Saudi coastguard kills Iranian fisherman in Persian Gulf

[Blue In Green]

The problem is that most SA people doesn't know what's going on and they think what their media says is the right thing that happens in the world. They won't believe if some one says that their government is a terrorist sponsor. They think that they have been chosen from God and what they do is the right thing.

Yeah, I've heard that same line being attributed to other countries (USA and Israel). To me the Saudis have become too complacent, they live reasonably comfortable lives (Shia's are still suppressed) and much of the hard work in the Gulf Arab countries and Saudi Arabia are done by foreign (nearly slave like labor). So they could give a rats *** what happens outside their borders, just keep the kebob and camel coming...

It's the duty of the citizens of a country to keep tabs on what the governments does (this goes for all countries Iran included). But I understand where your coming from.

Iran will probably make it's rage felt where it hits the Saudis, in Yemen. A MANPAD, maybe a short range Anti-ship missile slipped in to mess up a Saudi ship.

Iran always has a proportional response. This was not a major attack, so Iran's response is likely to be unconventional.

You see my worry comes from the possibility that Saudia Arabia itself has issued a top-down command of "use hostile action against anything Iranian", this sort of doctrine change is very concerning. It's essentially a informal declaration of war. I'm waiting for the Iranian parliament to finally call this what it is, a war. IRGC and other Iranian military/security elements have a phenomenal job so far, but a harsher tone needs to be taken (truth be told I don't know if a harsher tone has been taken or not, I'm just commenting on what I see).

The US navy would have blown that ship up right quick if they did that to us, or at least badly damaged it.

 

[Clutch]

I can't even imagine the amount of condemnation Iran would get if it was Iranian coast guards killing a Saudi Arabian fisherman.

I know the deal will be to yet again wait for the right moment and not get caught in the wind of revenge, but how do you not just want to just launch 50 ballistic missiles right onto Riyadh? Back when I learned the truth about 9/11 my rage against the Saudis (and others, you guys know who they are at this point) was legit uncontrollable, 3000 of my fellow Americans died for some permanent middle east deployment. And to top it all off the country that sponsored and harbored these men WAS LET GO SCOTT FREE.....one day... What goes around comes around....

To any Saudis, if anything happens to your country whether it be terrorist attacks or violent coups, I want you to know that many of us Americans won't shed a single tear for you, better yet we will have the biggest smiles on our face, you deserve it and then some.

MAN this is nerve racking!

Then why did you find it so offensive when all those countries that were bombed and invaded by the USA who didn't shed any tears when 9/11 happened to the USA?... because human goodness appeals to innocent victims of any act of violence that befalls innocence.

Innocent women and children are not responsible for their government's foreign misadventures...

 

[AmirPatriot]

You see my worry comes from the possibility that Saudia Arabia itself has issued a top-down command of "use hostile action against anything Iranian", this sort of doctrine change is very concerning. It's essentially a informal declaration of war. I'm waiting for the Iranian parliament to finally call this what it is, a war. IRGC and other Iranian military/security elements have a phenomenal job so far, but a harsher tone needs to be taken (truth be told I don't know if a harsher tone has been taken or not, I'm just commenting on what I see).

The US navy would have blown that ship up right quick if they did that to us, or at least badly damaged it.

Well I've definitely noticed an uptick in rhetoric.

But Saudi has gone on a rampage, in Yemen, with Qatar, with Iran, and now in the Persian Gulf. Iranian leaders usually make measured, proportional responses but they will have to do something big soon if they are to deter this aggression.

 

[Blue In Green]

Then why did you find it so offensive when all those countries that were bombed and invaded by the USA who didn't shed any tears when 9/11 happened to the USA?... because human goodness appeals to innocent victims of any act of violence that befalls innocence.

Innocent women and children are not responsible for their government's foreign misadventures...

Fair statement,

I've said it many times in the past that the actions of the USA are wrong and should be stopped immediately. As Putin said, US thinks it can do what it wants without any real consequences. US supports terrorist, so does Saudi Arabia so when those same Sunni Jihadist that have infested much of the Islamic world come back to bite the Saudis, I won't care, what goes around comes around.

I know not many people in the world care for what happens to us Americans (we don't really care what others think really, that a major reason why we're so hated), I was just stating a fact regarding if anything happens to the Saudi's, they truly deserve whats coming. The US also had its fair share of terrorist attacks (as have much of Europe), you reap what you sow.

Then why did you find it so offensive when all those countries that were bombed and invaded by the USA who didn't shed any tears when 9/11 happened to the USA?... because human goodness appeals to innocent victims of any act of violence that befalls innocence.

Innocent women and children are not responsible for their government's foreign misadventures...

I apologize if I sound cruel. I let my emotions get the better of me sometimes. These things that I read online just make me lose faith the kindness of humanity, but what I said still stands. You reap what you sow...

 

[Clutch]

Fair statement,

I've said it many times in the past that the actions of the USA are wrong and should be stopped immediately. As Putin said, US thinks it can do what it wants without any real consequences. US supports terrorist, so does Saudi Arabia so when those same Sunni Jihadist that have infested much of the Islamic world come back to bite the Saudis, I won't care, what goes around comes around.

I know not many people in the world care for what happens to us Americans (we don't really care what others think really, that a major reason why we're so hated), I was just stating a fact regarding if anything happens to the Saudi's, they truly deserve whats coming. The US also had its fair share of terrorist attacks (as have much of Europe), you reap what you sow.

I wasn't talking so much about "you reap what you sow" or geopolitics. My comment was just based on the humanistic aspect of this mad world of ever escalating circular violence. The average Joe and Abdul struggling to put food on the table for his family, shouldn't become the target of hate rhetoric.

Having said that, the Saudi regime is propped up my the American establishment. Instead of hoping for innocents to be blown up in Saudis... work to remove the support for the Saudi dictatorship from the American government.. Unfortunately your Congress is too corrupt to do that... pertro $$$

Trump's golden shower in Riyadh was his initiation.

 

[Blue In Green]

I wasn't talking so much about "you reap what you sow" or geopolitics. My comment was just based on the humanistic aspect of this mad world of ever escalating circular violence. The average Joe and Abdul struggling to put food on the table for his family, shouldn't become the target of hate rhetoric.

Having said that, the Saudi regime is propped up my the American establishment. Instead of hoping for innocents to be blown up in Saudis... work to remove the support for the Saudi dictatorship from the American government.. Unfortunately your Congress is too corrupt to do that... pertro $$$

Trump's golden shower in Riyadh was his initiation.

Yeah... I agree and I really do apologize if what I said came off that way. I don't revel in seeing a bunch of innocents dead.

I'm not even joking when I say this but a revolution would be needed to uproot the groups that control the US institutions. Military Industrial Complex, Zionist (Jewish) Influence, Banks, The litany of corporations, Special interest groups etc, etc...

Saudi gov, USA and Israel along with the usual supporting class are my eyes one cohesive entity. So taking down the Saudi gov would include the government of Israel and USA.

 

[Iranm]

Well I've definitely noticed an uptick in rhetoric.

But Saudi has gone on a rampage, in Yemen, with Qatar, with Iran, and now in the Persian Gulf. Iranian leaders usually make measured, proportional responses but they will have to do something big soon if they are to deter this aggression.

I hope not because world is getting to know them(the evil inside all of them) and when the time is up Iran will stand beside the world and they will do what's necessary to destroy it like always.
But the devil will come back again in another skin......

 

[sohailbutt1987]

Anyone can conquer Saudi Arabia in 1 day?! If NO ELECTRICITY people will leave kingdom within one day! Day time temperatues reach 50C. Saudi's are just talk can't fight!

 

[Zibago]

Anyone can conquer Saudi Arabia in 1 day?! If NO ELECTRICITY people will leave kingdom within one day! Day time temperatues reach 50C. Saudi's are just talk can't fight!

They are world biggest arms importer i dont think it would be easy

 

[sohailbutt1987]

They are world biggest arms importer i dont think it would be easy

Sir, Do you live here?! I was born here and have my family with me here from the beginning.

just by having the best weapons does not make them tough.

 

[Arabi]

Honestly It's the fault of Iran which in first place ordered its militia in Yemen to use suicide boats to attck ships in the redsea and we have seen an incidint of using a suicide boat attacking an armship in the redsea 3 months ago or so. How can we make sure that the Iranian boats in the Arabian Gulf are not suicide ones but fishing boast? We can't unless the Iranian goverment sign an agreement with KSA to fight any violance act and drug smuggling in the Arabian Gulf.

 

[Iranm]

Honestly It's the fault of Iran which in first place ordered its militia in Yemen to use suicide boats to attck ships in the redsea and we have seen an incidint of using a suicide boat attacking an armship in the redsea 3 months ago or so. How can we make sure that the Iranian boats in the Arabian Gulf are not suicide ones but fishing boast? We can't unless the Iranian goverment sign an agreement with KSA to fight any violance act and drug smuggling in the Arabian Gulf.

where are you coming from?
Iran won't do that(has never done that) until there is an actual war between two countries.
Why would you think of something like that? Do you really think that Iran is looking for a war at this time!?

 

[sohailbutt1987]

Honestly It's the fault of Iran which in first place ordered its militia in Yemen to use suicide boats to attck ships in the redsea and we have seen an incidint of using a suicide boat attacking an armship in the redsea 3 months ago or so. How can we make sure that the Iranian boats in the Arabian Gulf are not suicide ones but fishing boast? We can't unless the Iranian goverment sign an agreement with KSA to fight any violance act and drug smuggling in the Arabian Gulf.

Sir, why you think Yemenis are crazy, why in the world would they pick a fight with Saudis?!

This is because Saudis leased Yemeni land in 1912 under the leadership of their first King Abdul Aziz for a 100 years, which expired on 2012. Yemenis have been asking them to return their land which if I am not mistaken runs quite deep into present Saudi Arabia.

 

[Arabi]

Sir, why you think Yemenis are crazy, why in the world would they pick a fight with Saudis?!

This is because Saudis leased Yemeni land in 1912 under the leadership of their first King Abdul Aziz for a 100 years, which expired on 2012. Yemenis have been asking them to return their land which if I am not mistaken runs quite deep into present Saudi Arabia.

Now suddenly yemenis have become terrorists for asking their land back!

Simple solution return Yemenis land and the war ends!

What a BS,
It's like saying Pakistan is part of India that's why India kill Pakistani border guards from time to time, they just want to take back their lands!
do you really live in Saudi Arabia because it seems to me you are way far from the issue.

 

[Arabi]

where are you coming from?
Iran won't do that(has never done that) until there is an actual war between two countries.
Why would you think of something like that? Do you really think that Iran is looking for a war at this time!?

Iran has already done that by ordering its militia in Yemen to attack ships in the redsea by using suicide boats which resulted in damaging an armship, so that's why I think the turst level between the two governments is belw the Zero hence there must be somthing offical to make sure not violant act such as using suicide boat takes place in the Arabian Gulf