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Saudi Arabia's Shocking Snub From Pakistan Is a Bonanza for China and Turkey

There is no point in recognising Israel because even if we did, they would still continue to support india and transfer advanced weapons systems and other military technologies to them. The current status quo with regards to Pakistan and Israel is correct. Don't recognise them but do not make them an enemy either.
 
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There is no point in recognising Israel because even if we did, they will still continue to support india and transfer advanced weapons systems and other military technologies to them. The current status quo with regards to Pakistan and Israel is correct. Don't recognise them but do not make them an enemy either.

the fine line of status qou was disturbed on 26th Feb 19, when "Bastard State" military officers planned and help execute "Operation Monkey" we openly threatened missile strike on both sides...remember DG ISPR issuing the threat. then testing Shaheen II in Arabian sea..

We Pakistanis in general have a short term memory loss.
 
Mullahs and madrasahs that teach extremism shut be taken care of, i.e jail. No big deal if Imam e Kaaba doesn't come to Faisal mosque. Shut down madrasas that teach extremism, limit the influence of Arabs in our country... As for the IMF this is shameful because it shows how unsustainable the state is, need quick and long lasting economic growth, expansion of tax base and revenue, including the very fast development of human capital in the country, Pakistan had 8% higher literacy rate than Bangladesh in 2005 but now 2010-2019 the lose decade, BD has 15% higher literacy rate. Including a bigger Nominal GDP and GDP per capita.
and who is going to shut all the madrassahs? we all know how lal masjid mullah makes mockery of the state and its laws . how can somebody think of closing down thousands of madrassahs? some mullah will issue fatwa of kuffar against the government and then there will be a total choas in the society.
 
and who is going to shut all the madrassahs? we all know how lal masjid mullah makes mockery of the state and its laws . how can somebody think of closing down thousands of madrassahs? some mullah will issue fatwa of kuffar against the government and then there will be a total choas in the society.
Siege of Lal Masjid. Resulted in Government victory. Like operation Zarb, crackdown on extremism. All the dangerous mullahs will be tracked and locked up quickly... Akin to mbs crackdown on elite . Musharaf was swift and he took care of Lal Masjid.
 
Most of the elements of the Pakistani establishment are quiet, because the visit by the General will be Saudia Arabia's last chance to join Pakistan. If Saudia Arabia decides its relations with Israel, India and USA are more important, then i suspect relations will start to diverge from then. I think Saudia Arabia has decide to go with USA/Israel/India, but at least we must be "seen" to give the Saudi's one last chance..
Sir FO can issue such statements without establishment knowing. Its a political suicide. Saudi are already in US/Ind/Isr camp. Israel was always there but it was behind the scene. My guess is Bajwa Sb visit will most probably consist of Arm twisting tactics by the Arabs to support them, join them. US will now be even more stronger than ever in Middle East. Pakistan need to make a bloc with Big guns at their back. Asian specific bloc no more of this Ummah Crap.
 
and who is going to shut all the madrassahs? we all know how lal masjid mullah makes mockery of the state and its laws . how can somebody think of closing down thousands of madrassahs? some mullah will issue fatwa of kuffar against the government and then there will be a total choas in the society.
Who in the hell thinks all the madrassahs are bad?
All are fine just need to pput educated leadership in them thars all no one in pakistan thinks madarsas are Wong its a few political parties which usess them. As thier power and Thts all!
It also happens in many countries like in India BJP uses its hindu temple for its politics if we compare our madarsas we hve far more better morallity in our madaesa ppls then of normal pakistanis!
Fake news and liberal NGO based prapoganda is far away from. Reality
 
Siege of Lal Masjid. Resulted in Government victory. Like operation Zarb, crackdown on extremism. All the dangerous mullahs will be tracked and locked up quickly... Akin to mbs crackdown on elite . Musharaf was swift and he took care of Lal Masjid.
Lal Masjid operation may be succersfull in its targets but it was a failure politically thats the point from where MUSHARAF started going down and reaction against him took many shapes in which some of his own genrals were involved like Kiyani
 
Lal Masjid operation may be succersfull in its targets but it was a failure politically thats the point from where MUSHARAF started going down and reaction against him took many shapes in which some of his own genrals were involved like Kiyani
Security is needed for CPEC, madrasah are a threat to it if they are breeding extremists, bigger reason for crackdown, even Chinese are asking for greater security for their workers.
 
Who in the hell thinks all the madrassahs are bad?
All are fine just need to pput educated leadership in them thars all no one in pakistan thinks madarsas are Wong its a few political parties which usess them. As thier power and Thts all!
It also happens in many countries like in India BJP uses its hindu temple for its politics if we compare our madarsas we hve far more better morallity in our madaesa ppls then of normal pakistanis!
Fake news and liberal NGO based prapoganda is far away from. Reality
well majority of them are . that's why they are too sensitive about getting their curriculum regularized. even if some of them are not preahing terrorism but still majority of them produce narrow minded fools who are good for nothing. we have just recently seen about the vision of most of out muftis who miserbaly failed to understand the importance of social distancing during the current pandemic and even threaten the government. such types of so called muftis and scholars are more dangerous then terrorists. they have corrupted the religion . till the time these madrassahs exist muslims can never unite under the flag of islam. they keep on producing more narrow minded and backward people .
 
Siege of Lal Masjid. Resulted in Government victory. Like operation Zarb, crackdown on extremism. All the dangerous mullahs will be tracked and locked up quickly... Akin to mbs crackdown on elite . Musharaf was swift and he took care of Lal Masjid.
the worst thing in pakistan is that in pak there is a clash of two kinds of mind set. on one side we have mullahs graduated from madrassahs with some extremist interpretation of islam and on the other hand we have desi liberals who got their education from top colleges in pakistan or abroad and are obsessed with everything western. whereever these two extremes are forced to live togethor there will be lot of friction , earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
 
well majority of them are . that's why they are too sensitive about getting their curriculum regularized. even if some of them are not preahing terrorism but still majority of them produce narrow minded fools who are good for nothing. we have just recently seen about the vision of most of out muftis who miserbaly failed to understand the importance of social distancing during the current pandemic and even threaten the government. such types of so called muftis and scholars are more dangerous then terrorists. they have corrupted the religion . till the time these madrassahs exist muslims can never unite under the flag of islam. they keep on producing more narrow minded and backward people .
Totally agree bro... Bad madaras are a brain drain on the country. We need more smart people which is why I would support Pakistan sending 100,000 Students to USA university, 100,000 more to European Universities each year so after few years they come back and increase the human capital of the country.
 
the worst thing in pakistan is that in pak there is a clash of two kinds of mind set. on one side we have mullahs graduated from madrassahs with some extremist interpretation of islam and on the other hand we have desi liberals who got their education from top colleges in pakistan or abroad and are obsessed with everything western. whereever these two extremes are forced to live togethor there will be lot of friction , earthquakes and volcanic eruptions.
China sends 300,000+ students to USA alone, its very important for the development of the country . Western countries are by far the most advanced, way more than Asian 3RD world countries. Liberty is a sign of enlightenment and modern state. We need to send more Pakistani students to UK/USA/European Universities like China and other countries does to develop our country more. These countries have the best educational institutes in the world.
 
Totally agree bro... Bad madaras are a brain drain on the country. We need more smart people which is why I would support Pakistan sending 100,000 Students to USA university, 100,000 more to European Universities each year so after few years they come back and increase the human capital of the country.
you are right but at the same time we need to keep a check on the brain washing done by the western education system as well. we need to create a balance between modern education and islamic values . for this purpose i think the most important job is of the parents. only they can inculcate strong islamic foundations in their kids so once they go abroad they ae in a better postion to judge the right from wrong. which information they can take back to their homes and which information they can discard. but it is a difficult thing.
 
you are right but at the same time we need to keep a check on the brain washing done by the western education system as well. we need to create a balance between modern education and islamic values . for this purpose i think the most important job is of the parents. only they can inculcate strong islamic foundations in their kids so once they go abroad they ae in a better postion to judge the right from wrong. which information they can take back to their homes and which information they can discarded. but it is a difficult thing.
I agree, western education backed by strong and good parenting is needed. China sends over 100,000 students Canadian universities, 150,000 to Australia, 100,000+ to UK, 300K PLUS to U.S. They know how important it is to have smart people running and developing the country. Smart people have a positive chain effect on the country.
 
Which part of the article did you find wrong ?

Could you please tell me which part of the article you felt was wrong thanks.
1. Is the AKP guaranteed to win the next elections in Turkey and is Erdogan or someone with the same ideology guaranteed to continue leading Turkey?

2. Turkey and China don’t exactly get along because of the Uighur issue, I’m not sure how the author or, allegedly, Pakistani policy makers could conceive of a ‘bloc’ comprising Turkey, China and Iran, when Turkey also has disagreements with Iran on certain geo-political issues.

In my view there is a lot of speculation in the piece that isn’t justified with facts.

The only part I agree with is the rationale regarding Kashmir being a reason behind the downturn in ties.
 

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