SAUDI ARABIA'S MOHAMMAD BIN SALMAN DEFENDS CHINA'S USE OF CONCENTRATION CAMPS FOR MUSLIMS DURING VIS

[q12093487q]

China is a propoganda and cencorship state. Borderline North Korea when it comes to conforming with iron fist of the state and when it comes to nationalistic propoganda and cencorship.

May Allah avenge them for their oppression like firoun.

Not sure if it work but don't always relay on Allah.You need to trust yourself ，work hard and learn hard from your friends and enemies，with that one day Pakistan will become a strong and powerful nation.

China will still surpport pakistan in every respect even if many Pakistani are cursing china because of Xinjiang issues. We chinese see what you did not what you talked

What if China eants to do same with Pakistan tomorrow??

Don't worry .China will never do this nonsense（I don't even know if it is true） with pakistan because there is an old chinese saying:己所不欲勿施于人.This is why china don't interfere other nation‘s internal affairs.Besides I don't even think china can benefits anything from it

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

my audience is not all Pakistani members and I clarify that on my first sentence.

Some Pakistanis sold their fate to money but they do not say this directly, as result they bring sectarian discussion up and repeat Saudi/American propaganda.

MBS is guy who have many Muslims bloods on his hand in countries like Yemen, Iraq, Syria and even Pakistan and Iran but these Pakistani members worship him as god for money.

In the other thread you were against the whole nation of Pakistan for a border attack by nonstate actors.

You are the one with the sectarian agenda, not us.

MBS doing what Iran could not do for many years, even being our neighbor and ally, you chose to support India.

Not sure if it work but don't always relay on Allah.True power come out of yourself，you need to trust yourself ，work hard and learn hard from your friends and enemies，with that one day Pakistan will become a strong and powerful nation.

Muslims live in two different worlds, one is material and other is heavenly. There is no problem relying on Allah swt after working hard and preparing yourself. We don't see any dichotomy in the two.

 

[SubWater]

In the other thread you were against the whole nation of Pakistan for a border attack by nonstate actors.

You are the one with the sectarian agenda, not us.

MBS doing what Iran could not do for many years, even being our neighbor and ally, you chose to support India.

Yes, I am against Pakistan actions and its internal and foreign politics.
I'm sure these politics are against people of Pakistan and it's neighbors and end to hate b/w Pakistanis and it's neighbors.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Yes, I am against Pakistan actions and its internal and foreign politics.
I'm sure these politics are against people of Pakistan and it's neighbors and end to hate b/w Pakistanis and it's neighbors.

Then don't complain when we choose KSA, Turkey, China, or Afghan Taliban as allies over you.

We will choose the more trustworthy one.

 

[Zhukov]

Look at all our major Allied Nations in one thread Having such a nice time Together.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Look at all our major Allied Nations in one thread Having such a nice time Together.

Turk posters and Chinese posters will keep attacking each other, while their governments will hold hands.

 

[SubWater]

Then don't complain when we choose KSA, Turkey, China, or Afghan Taliban as allies over you.

We will choose the more trustworthy one.

You are free to chose any body you want.
we never complain about such issue.

It's better you pick up your hypocrite mask and do not speak about Muslims in Kashmir more.
Pakistan god is money.

 

[Zhukov]

Turk posters and Chinese posters will keep attacking each other, while their governments will hold hands.

Nation to Nation Sentiments is very important. Governments alone cannot do the trick if they cannot pursue their nations to consider them allies. But anyways Turkish-China Tensions are not baseless both countries have genuine reasons. All we can do is avoid being caught in cross-fire. As none of the two countries ever try to pull us between their conflicts.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You are free to chose any body you want.
we never complain about such issue.

It's better you pick up your hypocrite mask and do not speak about Muslims in Kashmir more.
Pakistan god is money.

You enjoy alliances with Kaffirs which murder/lynch/rape their own Muslim citizens and murder innocents in Kashmir, and you are calling us hypocrites?

Rather MBS than Modi any day.

ENJOY IT.

Nation to Nation Sentiments is very important. Governments alone cannot do the trick if they cannot pursue their nations to consider them allies. But anyways Turkish-China Tensions are not baseless both countries have genuine reasons. All we can do is avoid being caught in cross-fire. As none of the two countries ever try to pull us between their conflicts.

In sha Allah the Uyghur situation will grow calm and economic/political interests between Turks and Chinese will create a healthy environment.

Right now we are in full US cold war against China. It is important for us not to believe the lies perpetuated by Washington.

 

[SubWater]

You enjoy alliances with Kaffirs which murder/lynch/rape their own Muslim citizens and murder innocents in Kashmir, and you are calling us hypocrites?

Rather MBS than Modi any day.

ENJOY IT.



In sha Allah the Uyghur situation will grow calm and economic/political interests between Turks and Chinese will create a healthy environment.

Right now we are in full US cold war against China. It is important for us not to believe the lies perpetuated by Washington.

You enjoy alliances with Kaffirs which murder/lynch/rape their own Muslim citizens and murder innocents in East china, and you are calling us hypocrites?

My opinion is that Kashmir has right to be Independent country from both India and Pakistan.
Best solution and end of conflict.

 

[royalharris]

The turks, like their President, full of ignorance and arrogance，like to bluff and make troubles

It is very funny many turks laugh at chinese cheap labour when china have a higher Per capital GDP and salaries than turkey

Turks seem like living in a delutional world with a low level intellegence

 

[Valar.]

we never complain about such issue.

A Saudi, a Lebanese, a Turk and an Iranian walk into a Qatari bar....

The Saudi goes crazy spraying expensive champagne everywhere and tries to have as much fun as he can, because he can not drink back home,

The Lebanese orders a martini and quietly sits down,

The Turkish guy tries to look for a table full of white Europeans to sit down with,

The Iranian orders hard liquor, sits in a corner, and talks about how Arabs conquered his people 1,400 yrs ago and how that infuriates him to this day, how everything that's wrong with his people today is the fault of Arabs and how obsessed he is with Arabs. then he tries to convince you his race is Aryan and not Indian although he looks Indian but a little more hairy, then he bores everyone to death around him while everyone is saying "bro just let it go, you're drinking too much you're getting in your feelings right now..."

 

[MMM-E]

https://www.investopedia.com/insights/worlds-top-economies/

China is the world 2nd largest economy. A large economy gives u tremendous power which GDP is irrelevant. For example, China military expenditure in 2018 is USD 174.8 billion while Turkey has pathetic less than USD20 billion.

China indigneous warship.


All using indigenous QC-280 gas turbine while poor turkey still need to use American LM-2500 gas turbine for any of their warship.

Asia or probably the most powerful surface warship in the world.

Chinese self made MBT engine (MAX power /1500HP)

While pathetic Turkish can continue brag about their indigneous engine be ready only in 2025 with a big 'IF'

Chinese indigenous TVC engine.

While Turkey can only the most make a pathetic 800kg thrust turbofan engine by their own effort for their cruise missile.

China achieve many technology world class and first breakthru while Turkey is only famous for kebab with zero contribution to world technology.

https://hexus.net/tech/news/cpu/121796-huawei-kirin-980-worlds-first-7nm-mobile-soc/

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-11-15/china-attempts-to-create-an-artificial-sun/10495536

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=12184829

https://www.verdict.co.uk/countries-supercomputers-world/

https://www.wired.com/story/china-fast-worlds-largest-telescope-tourists/

https://www.businessinsider.com/chi...est-wind-tunnel-to-test-weapons-2017-11/?IR=T

China is lucky that there were not traitors in China to close aircraft,engine,etc factories
and China has started to create national defense Industry min 40 years ago with full of copycat from Soviet technology
also Israel,France gave some technologies to China such as electro optics , radar ,



on the other hand Turkey has developed Aircrafts in 1930-1940s
but after ATATURK , traitor politicans closed aircraft,engine,etc factories and they bought 2nd hand American-European weapons and they never did allow the developing even Rifle

but Turkey has started to develop high tech military projects led by great leader ERDOGAN after 2004
and only in 15 years Turkey has developed hundreds of military projects , what a great development


Yes Turkey develops over 600 military projects with less than $20 billion defense budget and less than $1 trillion of GDP ( except Turkey , no any country can do it in the world with less than $20 billion defense budget and less than $1 trillion of GDP )

Some Turkish Kebabs ( only a few countries in the world and Turkey is one of them )


ADA class stealth Corvette

ISTIF class stealth Frigate ( under construction )

TCG UFUK (SIGINT) Intelligence Gathering Ship ( only a few countries in the world )




ANKA and AKINCI UCAVs ( only a few countries in the world )





Turkey became one of the 10 countries that can produce communications satellites




TEI TS-1400 Turboshaft Engine

GaN based AESA Radars Aselsan EIRS (600+ km )

Aselsan CAFRAD Naval Radar (450+ km )




SAHI-209 Electromagnetic Railgun




TUMOSAN Engine Family



Aselsan IFF Mod5/S long range (friend or foe) Identification System ( only 4 countries in NATO and 7 countries in the World )

Aselsan SPEWS-II Electronic Warfare Self Protection Suite


KORAL Radar Electronic Warfare System

I can show you more hundreds of Turkish military projects that have been developed by Turkish companies



also Turkey has started to develop big military projects and will be in service betweeen 2020 and 2030


-- TAI 10 tons class Attack Helicopter
-- TAI 12 tons class Utility Helicopter
-- TAI HURJET next gen Jet trainer and air close support Fighter Jet
-- TAI TFX 5th gen stealth Fighter Jet
-- MIUS stealth UCAV
-- HISAR-A low altitude Air Defense System
-- HISAR-O medium altitude Air Defense System
-- SIPER high altitude Air Defense System
-- GEZGIN Naval Cruise Missile
-- SAPAN Rolling Airframe Missile
-- AKBABA Anti radiotion Missile
-- BURAK Space Probe Rocket and Launch System
-- UMIT Space Launch System
-- Aselsan Airborne stand off Jammer
-- Airborne GaN based AESA Radar
-- MILDEN class AIP Submarine
-- TF-2000 class Destroyer
-- 1500 hp diesel Engine for ALTAY Tank
-- Turbofan Engine for TF-X Fighter Jet
-- up to 5000 hp Engines for Naval platforms


and many more , We dont care about Chinese TROLL Team
We are looking at our own business
between 2004 and 2034 , only in 30 years Turkey becomes at 95+% self-sufficiency in military

 

[Islamic faith&Secularism]

You enjoy alliances with Kaffirs which murder/lynch/rape their own Muslim citizens and murder innocents in Kashmir, and you are calling us hypocrites?

Rather MBS than Modi any day.

ENJOY IT.



In sha Allah the Uyghur situation will grow calm and economic/political interests between Turks and Chinese will create a healthy environment.

Right now we are in full US cold war against China. It is important for us not to believe the lies perpetuated by Washington.

@SubWater has a point... with regard to Faith vs. Money.


A simple test to find out... Here is the method:

1. Open a thread in The ME section with a title '' Would you like your family to be in Chinese concentration camps? '',
2. Add a poll,
3. Mention the conditions in the camps for ''Kids'',''Mothers'',''Fathers'' as partly mentioned in this thread ( https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/chinese-concentration-camp-si-cinping-is-our-god.603382/ ),
4. Add comments of family members outside,
5. Show the life in the streets of East Turkestan,
6. Finally, Add a photo ''human beings'' of Before/After camps as outcome.

After those information provided for the objectivity of the members and the objective test result, You ask the question as in the title :

• '' Would you like your family to be in Chinese concentration camps? ''.

Are you(or anyone) ready to discover your subconscious and true loyality to the Islam or money?

 

[Zhukov]

You enjoy alliances with Kaffirs which murder/lynch/rape their own Muslim citizens and murder innocents in East china, and you are calling us hypocrites?

My opinion is that Kashmir has right to be Independent country from both India and Pakistan.
Best solution and end of conflict.

Your Opinnion doesnt matter on Kashmir. Neither mine or anybody's Opinnion except Kashmiris Themselves. And one be rather blind to not see the stark difference of lifestyle and Unrest in Kashmiris living in Azad Jammu & Kashmir and Gilgit Baltistan i.e the Kashmir Controlled by Pakistan and The Indian Jammu and Kashmir controlled by Indians.
Pakistan side Kashmir is like any other town in Pakistan in fact much more peaceful then Rest of Pakistan. No Army Patrols to checking no protests no problem. Everyone living happy. Indian side is a different story. And people are welcome to believe its only Pakistan why Indian Kashmir Behaves the way it does.
As far as hypocrites goes and calling Money is God to Pakistan. Your Whole Narrative of Defenders of Quds and Enemies of Israel is beyond hypocrisy when Kashmir Blood is worth less to You then Palestinian Blood.
May be Israel Should strike a big Oil Deal with your country and all differences will be Settled. Just like Israeli Best Friend India is your Best Buddy because of Oil.
And BTW your country is the one that always make issue with Pakistani Ties with KSA.
Your conflict with Saudi Arabia is Just Sectrian nothing else. While we have Fought Wars with India real Wars Territorial Conflicts that can go nuke anytime yet we never bashed Iran over Indian Ties. |And here we are with Iranis Speaking in same tone as India Just as Kulbhushan Yadav Case is to be Finalized in ICJ.
Good luck with Indian Oil Deals and Empty Threats from your Generals to Pakistan. You are just loosing a friendly neighbor Country in the region. Keep appeasing India.
Your Concerns are just Fairy Tale Stories. TERRORISTS, ROGUE ELEMENTS and your generals started Threatning Pakistan. We had real concerns when Karachi Gangwar Criminals like Uzair Baloch confessed Ties with Iran and the recent Kulbhushan Yadev case yet we kept our Restain. Keep your eyes Shut willingly if you may